Begum ‘risk of hanging’

[Imploding Turtle]

Another keyboard warrior spouts off. Perhaps you might think differently if it was one of your loved ones being slaughtered on U-tube. People like you can only see the unicorn populated utopia that you think the world can become, I have news for you pinko, it can’t. If people like that don’t turn you ‘sweary and aggressive’ then you are part of the problem.

Appeal to emotion! We got one! We did it, libtards. We got one of them to say it. "If it was one of your loved ones". It's the centre square on the moron bingo card.

Elwa will be along any second now to chastise this extremist nutjob for calling someone a pinko.

[Bin Ont Turf]

Maybe she could begum not to hang her?



Ho Ho Ho Merry Christmas everyone.

[Imploding Turtle]

Maybe she could begum not to hang her?

Ho Ho Ho Merry Christmas everyone.

Blocked and reported.

[fidelcastro]

If people like that don’t turn you ‘sweary and aggressive’ then you are part of the problem.

You do realise that's what the terrorists want, right?

Has that occurred to you?

[Lowbankclaret]

Just admit you're Islamophobic.

It's blindingly obvious.

It’s just an opinion.

I work with many minority groups at work.

I count many as friends.

But I am allowed an opinion.

Even if it’s proves to be wrong, long after I am dead.

[Devils_Advocate]

Another keyboard warrior spouts off. Perhaps you might think differently if it was one of your loved ones being slaughtered on U-tube. People like you can only see the unicorn populated utopia that you think the world can become, I have news for you pinko, it can’t. If people like that don’t turn you ‘sweary and aggressive’ then you are part of the problem.

[Greenmile]

No I’m saying calling someone a fascist is nonsense. A fascist believes they should serve the state, for benefit of the nation... everything is subservient to the nation.

Where has anyone talked fascist politics?

Germany in the 1930s?

[AndrewJB]

Well, that is alright then, you feel free to bastardise as many words as you like to mean what you want. Makes perfect sense.

Communist is hardly the same as Fascist .... it is a catch all for Marxism, Trotskyism, Maoism etc. But hey ho. You carry on making your own language rules.

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The name fits.

Rightwing authoritarianism. Denying rights to an ethnic woman without due process. I’d say that’s a check.

Ultranationalist - “my country first and foremost” - another check.

Forcible suppression of opposition and regimentation of society - that’s been checked a few times on here.

Opposed to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism - check.

If it looks, sounds, and smells like it...

[Imploding Turtle]

You do realise that's what the terrorists want, right?

Has that occurred to you?

I think he wants to give the terrorists what they want. They want the same thing. People like Benny are ISIS's biggest allies in the west.

[Greenmile]

It’s just an opinion.

I work with many minority groups at work.

I count many as friends.

But I am allowed an opinion.

Even if it’s proves to be wrong, long after I am dead.

Yes, you are allowed to have Islamophobic opinions, as long as you don’t act on them.

Just as I am allowed to think that your prejudiced opinions are disgusting.

[fidelcastro]

I think he wants to give the terrorists what they want. They want the same thing. People like Benny are ISIS's biggest allies in the west.

Well... he certainly sounds like he's giving in to terrorism.

I know, let's invade another country again. That'll solve the problem!

[Lowbankclaret]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

The name fits.

Rightwing authoritarianism. Denying rights to an ethnic woman without due process. I’d say that’s a check.

Ultranationalist - “my country first and foremost” - another check.

Forcible suppression of opposition and regimentation of society - that’s been checked a few times on here.

Opposed to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism - check.

If it looks, sounds, and smells like it...

So based on your thoughts.

And we don’t know.

Perhaps she.

Killed people who were none Muslim or of a lesser sect .

Beheaded a couple.

Threw a few gays off buildings to their death.

But that’s ok, she was 15 when she left.

[elwaclaret]

So your point is that there's only one form of fascism, whereas there are many forms of communism. Is that right?

Fascists believe in full loyalty and obedience to the nation state. Where have those views been as poised. You meant racist but thought fascist carried more weight... it does but not in the way you wanted. The real term you wanted to use was an invention of Churchill’s, and is a perfectly good term for racists as it is a lot more specific to one group who falsely claimed the theory for their own purposes.

Fascism is no more hateful than Marx, it is the idiots turning theory into practice that lead to the bastardisation of the words into being meaningless... that is what I din’t Like.

It has zero to do with her background, or religion. I am fascinated by ancient Islamic culture and discuss it regularly; tonight the topic was Hafez. Tomorrow it may be ancient Mesopotamian texts that turn up six thousand years later in the Koran... I still don’t think she should be allowed to return.

[BennyD]

You do realise that's what the terrorists want, right?

Has that occurred to you?

Wow, me getting angry really helps their cause. Turn the other cheek is mainly for people who can’t think of anything else to do.

[Lowbankclaret]

Yes, you are allowed to have Islamophobic opinions, as long as you don’t act on them.

Just as I am allowed to think that your prejudiced opinions are disgusting.

But she acted on hers and killed people, but that’s ok.

I just fear the rise of the Muslim population in this country.

If having a fear of something makes me islamaphobic then so be it.

I didn’t go and start killing people but you defend her right to go and do exactly .that . Oh well.

[fidelcastro]

Wow, me getting angry really helps their cause. Turn the other cheek is mainly for people who can’t think of anything else to do.

It does if you act on that anger or encourage others to do so.

What the terrorists really hate, is that the more discerning of us know, that, try as they might, they won't break us.

[fidelcastro]

But she acted on hers and killed people, but that’s ok.

I just fear the rise of the Muslim population in this country.

If having a fear of something makes me islamaphobic then so be it.

I didn’t go and start killing people but you defend her right to go and do exactly .that . Oh well.

Stop making **** up!

No one, literally no one, has defended her actions on here!

[BennyD]

It does if you act on that anger or encourage others to do so.

What the terrorists really hate, is that the more discerning of us know, that, try as they might, they won't break us.

They won’t break me either; I’ll always hate the b4stards. You carry on being discerning mate, it gives you the air of couldn’t care less. But if it works for you, don’t you give a sh!t. Condescending prick.

[fidelcastro]

They won’t break me either; I’ll always hate the b4stards. You carry on being discerning mate, it gives you the air of couldn’t care less. But if it works for you, don’t you give a sh!t.

I'm always sad about the innocent loss of life.

I trust you are equally outraged by atrocities committed in the name of white supremacism, right?

[Lowbankclaret]

Stop making **** up!

No one, literally no one, has defended her actions on here!

So are her actions of no consequence???

[BennyD]

I'm always sad about the innocent loss of life.

I trust you are equally outraged by atrocities committed in the name of white supremacism, right?

If they start leaving bombs over here, I will be.

[BennyD]

I'm always sad about the innocent loss of life.

I trust you are equally outraged by atrocities committed in the name of white supremacism, right?

Btw, she isn’t innocent; she knew who they are and what they have done and still went over there. Then she married one and lived amongst them, so she is a lot less innocent than you my dear boy.

[fidelcastro]

So are her actions of no consequence???

Bring her back. Put her on trial.

If she's found guilty, lock her up.

Sorry to sound like such a radical!

[Greenmile]

But she acted on hers and killed people, but that’s ok.

I just fear the rise of the Muslim population in this country.

If having a fear of something makes me islamaphobic then so be it.

I didn’t go and start killing people but you defend her right to go and do exactly .that . Oh well.

You’re going to have to show me where I defended her right to kill people, or suggested it was ok, otherwise people are going to think you’ve made it up to deflect from your repugnant Islamophobia.

[fidelcastro]

If they start leaving bombs over here, I will be.

They have done that. They have also shot, stabbed and ran people over. .. but you knew that, right?

[Right_winger]

It’s their job, so why should they not get paid? Doctors get paid too, as do nurses. When you’re being stitched up after an accident do you sit there thinking: “this leech is just doing it for the money!”?

You’ve completely missed the point as expected.

[BennyD]

They have done that. They have also shot, stabbed and ran people over. .. but you knew that, right?

I think you’ll find they were Muslims that have been doing that, not white supremacists.

[fidelcastro]

Btw, she isn’t innocent; she knew who they are and what they have done and still went over there. Then she married one and lived amongst them, so she is a lot less innocent than you my dear boy.

I never said she was innocent.

When I mentioned innocent people, I was talking about victims of terrorism.

As usual, you were being reactionary.

Sorry if that sounds condescending!

[BennyD]

I never said she was innocent.

When I mentioned innocent people, I was talking about victims of terrorism.

As usual, you were being reactionary.

Sorry if that sounds condescending!

You mentioned innocent loss of life when I was talking about her being strung up. I wasn’t being reactionary,I was trying to credit you with being able to hold a conversation. Obviously, on that point, I was wrong.

[Lowbankclaret]

Bring her back. Put her on trial.

If she's found guilty, lock her up.

Sorry to sound like such a radical!

Your not going to get much evidence from a caliphate are you, seriously.

I sat on four trials earlier this year and you need real evidence. Thankfully all 4 I sat on they were all guilty. All got custodial sentences , one suspended.

[fidelcastro]

I think you’ll find they were Muslims that have been doing that, not white supremacists.

Have you heard of Anders Breivik, Thomas Mair, David Copeland, Darren Osborne... just four off the top of my head. There are plenty more!

Fascists and white supremacists all of them.

Unless you're claiming that the motive was something else? Do enlighten us all!

[BennyD]

It’s a pity suspended doesn’t mean hung.

[Right_winger]

Don't debate with fascists on human rights. They don't value other humans who aren't like them, and when they make arguments like "human rights lawyers get paid" they're only trying desperately to justify their hatred and inhumanity using PC language because if they gave their real reasons their real character would be exposed too clearly, and they wouldn't be welcome in society.

There are no people on here who are fascists you know that and I know that. It doesn’t stop a drama queen like yourself though pushing such a narrative. Let’s be honest its the only method of debate you have.

What’s actually hilarious is the fact that you have taken a completely misconstrued point, sprinkled a little bit of fiction in there add drama with a touch of anger and you have the blueprint for an IT post.

Well done you havent disappointed

[AndrewJB]

I think he wants to give the terrorists what they want. They want the same thing. People like Benny are ISIS's biggest allies in the west.

George W Bush’s administration were the biggest recruitment advertisement for Al Qaida, just as they were for the US security and military industries. Former allies against the Soviet Union that helped each other as adversaries later, by making a mountain out of a molehill.

9/11 gave Bush the “moral backing” to invade Afghanistan, and later Iraq (which had no international backing) and these invasions drove otherwise moderate Muslims into extremism.

Everyone else lost.

[Quickenthetempo]

It's like a left wing game of soggy biscuit on here tonight.

[Greenmile]

You mentioned innocent loss of life when I was talking about her being strung up. I wasn’t being reactionary,I was trying to credit you with being able to hold a conversation. Obviously, on that point, I was wrong.

You need to read back through your conversation. Given the context, it was pretty clear that Fidel was referring to victims of terrorism when he mentioned innocent loss of life - you had just accused him of not caring about terrorist atrocities because he doesn’t get as angry on the internet about it as you do (I think that’s what Damo would call “virtue signalling”).

[fidelcastro]

Your not going to get much evidence from a caliphate are you, seriously.

I sat on four trials earlier this year and you need real evidence. Thankfully all 4 I sat on they were all guilty. All got custodial sentences , one suspended.

Why not? Most people on here are convinced of her guilt!

Shouldn't take the intelligence services and the CPS long to gather the evidence. They just need to ask the experts on here!

[Lowbankclaret]

You’re going to have to show me where I defended her right to kill people, or suggested it was ok, otherwise people are going to think you’ve made it up to deflect from your repugnant Islamophobia.

So my fear that the rising population and calls for Sharia law, make me a repugnant Islamophobic.

But what does the actual killing of people, throwing gays off buildings.

Beheading people. And all the atrocities they did that’s ok..

She can come back and all is forgiven.

But I have a fear of something.

I treat all Muslims with respect, as I do with a Jews, Christians, Mormons etcs.

But somehow I am worse.

So be it.

That’s all that’s wrong with this snowflake world.

[Greenmile]

George W Bush’s administration were the biggest recruitment advertisement for Al Qaida, just as they were for the US security and military industries. Former allies against the Soviet Union that helped each other as adversaries later, by making a mountain out of a molehill.

9/11 gave Bush the “moral backing” to invade Afghanistan, and later Iraq (which had no international backing) and these invasions drove otherwise moderate Muslims into extremism.

Everyone else lost.

Did you know the first Rambo film was dedicated to “the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan”?

I think they edited that part of the credits out sometime around 2001, for some reason.

[fidelcastro]

You need to read back through your conversation. Given the context, it was pretty clear that Fidel was referring to victims of terrorism when he mentioned innocent loss of life - you had just accused him of not caring about terrorist atrocities because he doesn’t get as angry on the internet about it as you do (I think that’s what Damo would call “virtue signalling”).

Thank you.

I was going to correct him, but didn't think he was worth the bother.

[BennyD]

Have you heard of Anders Breivik, Thomas Mair, David Copeland, Darren Osborne... just four off the top of my head. There are plenty more!

Fascists and white supremacists all of them.

Unless you're claiming that the motive was something else? Do enlighten us all!

Read my post numbnut; I said OVER HERE. For the hard of thinking that means in this country. What idiots do in their own country doesn’t really bother me, they can sort their own cr4p out. If they start bombing, shooting,stabbing and running people over in, this, country, then I’ll dislike them intensely as well. Idiot.

[Greenmile]

So my fear that the rising population and calls for Sharia law, make me a repugnant Islamophobic.

But what does the actual killing of people, throwing gays off buildings.

Beheading people. And all the atrocities they did that’s ok..

She can come back and all is forgiven.

But I have a fear of something.

I treat all Muslims with respect, as I do with a Jews, Christians, Mormons etcs.

But somehow I am worse.

So be it.

That’s all that’s wrong with this snowflake world.

Bloody snowflakes - not letting you prejudge large sections of society solely on the basis of their religious beliefs without criticising you for it. What’s the world coming to, eh?

[Lowbankclaret]

Why not? Most people on here are convinced of her guilt!

Shouldn't take the intelligence services and the CPS long to gather the evidence. They just need to ask the experts on here!

You need a witness or victim who will give evidence. Without that you have got nothing.

[fidelcastro]

Did you know the first Rambo film was dedicated to “the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan”?

I think they edited that part of the credits out sometime around 2001, for some reason.

Are you sure it wasn't the third one?

That was set in Afghanistan, wasn't it?

[Greenmile]

Are you sure it wasn't the third one?

That was set in Afghanistan, wasn't it?

You’re probably right. I’ve never seen any of the Rambo films, but saw (and evidently misremembered) that fact on Twitter.

[Lowbankclaret]

Bloody snowflakes - not letting you prejudge large sections of society solely on the basis of their religious beliefs without criticising you for it. What’s the world coming to, eh?

I am confused.
I don’t criticise anyone on their beliefs, that my point. I treat them all with respect.

I don’t have a belief, religion is bullsh1t.

But I have a fear on the rise of the Muslim population.

[fidelcastro]

Read my post numbnut; I said OVER HERE. For the hard of thinking that means in this country. What idiots do in their own country doesn’t really bother me, they can sort their own cr4p out. If they start bombing, shooting,stabbing and running people over in, this, country, then I’ll dislike them intensely as well. Idiot.

You're showing yourself up here Benny Hill

Three of the four examples I've given, were committed here. That's in the United Kingdom. Comprende?

[Greenmile]

I am confused.
I don’t criticise anyone on their beliefs, that my point. I treat them all with respect.

I don’t have a belief, religion is bullsh1t.

But I have a fear on the rise of the Muslim population.

And what is the single defining characteristic of “the Muslim population”? (clue - it’s not that they’re all terrorists who want to implement Sharia law).

[ClaretAndJew]

I am confused.
I don’t criticise anyone on their beliefs, that my point. I treat them all with respect.

I don’t have a belief, religion is bullsh1t.

But I have a fear on the rise of the Muslim population.

What rise? They are 4% of the UK population.

96% of the UK isn't Muslim. That's not a rise.

[Greenmile]

So my fear that the rising population and calls for Sharia law, make me a repugnant Islamophobic.

But what does the actual killing of people, throwing gays off buildings.

Beheading people. And all the atrocities they did that’s ok..

She can come back and all is forgiven.

But I have a fear of something.

I treat all Muslims with respect, as I do with a Jews, Christians, Mormons etcs.

But somehow I am worse.

So be it.

That’s all that’s wrong with this snowflake world.

Just re-reading this. Are you really implying that I think your Islamophobia makes you worse than someone who commits terrorist atrocities?? That’s a hell of a strawman.