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Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:14 pm

I really like McNeill, he’s a top player for us. Tonight we saw the reasons he might never have made it at a top club like United vs a Mount or Pulasic.

It got me asking the question, do clubs like United ever really make a mistake (modern era) in releasing youngsters?

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Re: Manchester United

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:36 pm

Danieljwaterhouse wrote:I really like McNeill, he’s a top player for us. Tonight we saw the reasons he might never have made it at a top club like United vs a Mount or Pulasic.

It got me asking the question, do clubs like United ever really make a mistake (modern era) in releasing youngsters?
Pogba, Pique...

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Re: Manchester United

Post by Spijed » Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:37 pm

Hmmm
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Re: Manchester United

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:38 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Pogba, Pique...
They were arguable bought by bigger clubs (Barca and Juventus) so weren’t released.

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Re: Manchester United

Post by Spijed » Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:41 pm

So you don't think McNeil is good enough?

Based on what?

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Re: Manchester United

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:48 pm

Spijed wrote:So you don't think McNeil is good enough?

Based on what?
Should have been in the top corner his goal.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:48 pm

Danieljwaterhouse wrote:They were arguable bought by bigger clubs (Barca and Juventus) so weren’t released.
Juve didn't pay for Pogba though...

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Post by fanzone » Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:59 pm

McNeil were very good today

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Re: Manchester United

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:27 pm

Spijed wrote:So you don't think McNeil is good enough?

Based on what?
I think he’s good enough for us, too good. I don’t think he would make it at a top CL team and therefore United were right to let go.

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Re: Manchester United

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:28 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Juve didn't pay for Pogba though...
He wasn’t released is the point

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Re: Manchester United

Post by EarbyClaret » Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:36 pm

Danieljwaterhouse wrote:I think he’s good enough for us, too good. I don’t think he would make it at a top CL team and therefore United were right to let go.
You can't really make that comparison though. He's our one creative outlet and we rely on him far too much for such a young and inexperienced player. Put him into a team with better quality around him and I think given the same levels he achieves for us, he'd look reasonably comfortable.

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Re: Manchester United

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:55 pm

I’m not here for a McNeill debate. I was just asking if we think big academy’s ever make mistakes? I don’t think they do.

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Re: Manchester United

Post by dsr » Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:11 pm

Danieljwaterhouse wrote:I think he’s good enough for us, too good. I don’t think he would make it at a top CL team and therefore United were right to let go.
But United aren't a top CL team. They're below us in the table.

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Re: Manchester United

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:22 pm

dsr wrote:But United aren't a top CL team. They're below us in the table.
I’m sure they have been consistently for the last 20 plus years

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Re: Manchester United

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:38 pm

Danieljwaterhouse wrote:He wasn’t released is the point
Yet you've stated that Juve paid for him...
Danieljwaterhouse wrote:
They were arguable bought by bigger clubs (Barca and Juventus) so weren’t released.
He left Utd at the end of his contract, because he wasn't good enough at the time.


Back to the topic at hand, Jordi Alba was released by Barca because he was apparently too small, but they eventually paid good money to 're-sign him and extended his contract this year I think.

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Re: Manchester United

Post by dsr » Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:46 pm

Danieljwaterhouse wrote:I’m sure they have been consistently for the last 20 plus years
My mistake. I thought you were talking about him playing now, not twenty+ years ago. ;)

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Re: Manchester United

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:07 pm

dsr wrote:My mistake. I thought you were talking about him playing now, not twenty+ years ago. ;)
Even know I’m sure the academy at United will be prepping players for the highest standard.

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Re: Manchester United

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:10 pm

Danieljwaterhouse wrote:I think he’s good enough for us, too good. I don’t think he would make it at a top CL team and therefore United were right to let go.
Work in progress.

But you are probably right about Man Utd's standards.

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Re: Manchester United

Post by Spijed » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:22 pm

Danieljwaterhouse wrote:Even know I’m sure the academy at United will be prepping players for the highest standard.
Before you write off McNeil as not being good enough for the CL clubs can I just point out that he's still only 19.
At the same age, did James Maddison look like he would be a star in the making?

Let's see how McNeil develops in the next three seasons before saying he isn't good enough to play at the highest level.

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Re: Manchester United

Post by Foulthrow » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:36 pm

McNeil has the potential to make it right at the top, after all, he’s pretty close now and doing exceptionally well.

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Re: Manchester United

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:56 pm

Spijed wrote:Before you write off McNeil as not being good enough for the CL clubs can I just point out that he's still only 19.
At the same age, did James Maddison look like he would be a star in the making?

Let's see how McNeil develops in the next three seasons before saying he isn't good enough to play at the highest level.

Read the OP not here to debate McNeill, people just jump on a bandwagon and start being keyboard warriors!

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