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Re: General Election Is On

Post by claret_in_exile » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:32 pm

Blyth Valley just announced a gain for the Tories. It's started.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by taio » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:33 pm

Significant that Tories win Blyth Valley

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by LordBob » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:33 pm

Blythe Valley .... WOW !!!!!

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by claret_in_exile » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:34 pm

20% swing.

Labour are getting precisely what they deserve.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:34 pm

2-1 to Labour.

I don't know what all the fuss is about?

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by LoveCurryPies » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:35 pm

Blythe Valley.....Labour since 1950. Until now.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by BennyD » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:35 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:42 pm
smug, self satisfied, wealthy tories back in the driving seat. With a liar at the helm. Cannot fathom how empty headed our electorate are to have this shower controlling the purse strings. Rising crime, NHS on its knees, homelessness and food banks are rife, and the voting public choose conservative. I am genuinely astounded and disgusted.
Wow! Talk about a disillusioned empty headed moron; Johnson is a politician, just as Corbyn is, and they are all liars. Labour have traditionally f*cked the economy and, personally, I wouldn’t trust them with a piggy bank. Rising crime is being fuelled by drinking and gambling and de-restriction of both were Labour policies. The NHS has always been a problem because it has always been inefficient and always will be unles there is a root and branch overhaul. The voting public looks like it might be voting the Tories in because the Labour Party want to take the country back to the 1970s. I’m delighted and enthused that the 3 year old Governmental paralysis might be over because it may mean that Brexit is finally delivered (after the much requested 2nd public vote) and then we can get back to running the country, not the wet dreams of disgruntled remainers.
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Re: General Election Is On

Post by Top Claret » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:35 pm

Great news from Blythe

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by LordBob » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:36 pm

Are we calling it an exit poll or a BR - EXIT poll ?

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by Clarets4me » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:36 pm

Blyth Valley Labour majority in 2017 was 7,915 .... just Wow !!

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by Claret-On-A-T-Rex » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:39 pm

From the exit poll...
Forecast: Expected at 02:00
Burnley
54% chance of Conservative gain, 46% chance of Labour hold
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Re: General Election Is On

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:40 pm

I’m just worried Ringo’s battery will run out.
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Re: General Election Is On

Post by tiger76 » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:42 pm

Gains in the North East for the Conservatives,and a strong BP vote,they've saved their deposit in all 3 seats declared thus far,and Farage could well be right that they're taking votes from Labour allowing the Conservatives to come through the middle,i do find it amusing that remainers are complaining about a Tory/BP pact given the remain alliance.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:46 pm

BennyD wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:35 pm
Wow! Talk about a disillusioned empty headed moron; Johnson is a politician, just as Corbyn is, and they are all liars. Labour have traditionally f*cked the economy and, personally, I wouldn’t trust them with a piggy bank. Rising crime is being fuelled by drinking and gambling and de-restriction of both were Labour policies. The NHS has always been a problem because it has always been inefficient and always will be unles there is a root and branch overhaul. The voting public looks like it might be voting the Tories in because the Labour Party want to take the country back to the 1970s. I’m delighted and enthused that the 3 year old Governmental paralysis might be over because it may mean that Brexit is finally delivered (after the much requested 2nd public vote) and then we can get back to running the country, not the wet dreams of disgruntled remainers.
moron ? you are one of those I alluded to, and your ill thought out summary of the days events are dreadful. Also, all your points are invalid and ludicrous. Sap.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by FCBurnley » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:47 pm

Imploding Turtle in hiding ?

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:48 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:40 pm
I’m just worried Ringo’s battery will run out.
I'm worried for the sandals.

Chewed as though a dog has been at them.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by CombatClaret » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:49 pm

If there's one thing I hope comes out of the this election and the public is shown to overwhelmingly support; is tougher rules on enforcing factual claims only in political advertising.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by BennyD » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:52 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:46 pm
moron ? you are one of those I alluded to, and your ill thought out summary of the days events are dreadful. Also, all your points are invalid and ludicrous. Sap.
Really? The exit pole suggests even Burnley May go blue. That kind of indicates more people think like me than they do like you, which is a blessing to the country. Btw, this isn’t a summary of ‘the days events’, it’s a summary of the last 50+ years.
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Re: General Election Is On

Post by claret_in_exile » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:53 pm

Holy crap: Redcar, Leigh and Chesterfield are touch and go.

Bloody hell. It's a massacre.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by Somethingfishy » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:54 pm

Quite a few of the more regular lefties/remainers are conspicuous by their absence. Maybe finally they realise they were in the miority despite their perceived sense of higher intelligence and morality.
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Re: General Election Is On

Post by Rowls » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:54 pm

BennyD wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:52 pm
Really? The exit pole suggests even Burnley May go blue. That kind of indicates more people think like me than they do like you, which is a blessing to the country.
kin-L

I'd be gobsmacked in Burnley went Conservative. That's unthinkable.

That's what Corbyn has done to the Labour Party.
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Re: General Election Is On

Post by taio » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:55 pm

Yep Burnley predicted to turn blue. Incredible, it really is.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by BennyD » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:56 pm

I never thought I’d say this but, thank God the dozy ba5tards voted Corbyn in.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by slw » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:57 pm

lousie cooper?

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by FCBurnley » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:57 pm

Burnley has not been Tory since 1910

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by tiger76 » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:58 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:36 pm
Blyth Valley Labour majority in 2017 was 7,915 .... just Wow !!
To put this into context Blyth Valley was number 116 on the Tory target list,this doesn't bode well for many marginals in the midlands,which are normally bellweather seats.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:00 am

Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:48 pm
I'm worried for the sandals.
Resort?

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:00 am

Sounds like Corbin was the Uk version of Hillary Clinton haha

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by tiger76 » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:02 am

BennyD wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:56 pm
I never thought I’d say this but, thank God the dozy ba5tards voted Corbyn in.
The Labour MP'S didn't vote him in,it was their daft membership,not once but twice,it shows how out of touch they really are nowadays.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by RingoMcCartney » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:03 am

tiger76 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:24 pm
The Liberal Democrats seriously need to change their name,Menzies Campbell just stated now in the BBC studio that unless the SNP achieve a majority of the Scottish vote share,then they don't have a mandate for a 2nd indy ref,well i disagree with their stance on independence,the SNP clearly are entitled to seek another say on the matter,and if they carry the majority of the country in such a vote then so be it,i'll be disappointed but i won't be defending a fresh vote,unlike the remainers and the brexit referendum.
They could start by being honest when they have the inevitable rebrand.

Remove the "liberal" and "Democrats" from their party name.

Illiberal Extremists would be more accurate.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by claret_in_exile » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:04 am

tiger76 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:02 am
The Labour MP'S didn't vote him in,it was their daft membership,not once but twice,it shows how out of touch they really are nowadays.
For all the gains that Blair/Brown made, Corbyn has undone all that credibility in four years. Labour gains in 2017 look like they were just a protest vote rather than approval of socialism.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by BennyD » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:05 am

tiger76 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:02 am
The Labour MP'S didn't vote him in,it was their daft membership,not once but twice,it shows how out of touch they really are nowadays.
Apologies, I should have made that clearer; by dozy ba5tards I meant Labourites.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by RingoMcCartney » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:05 am

Rowls wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:54 pm
kin-L

I'd be gobsmacked in Burnley went Conservative. That's unthinkable.

That's what Corbyn has done to the Labour Party.
Wrong

It's a result of what the political class has tried to do to democracy.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:05 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:00 am
Resort?
Yes.

Millions of disaffected Labour voters descending on the Bahamas can't be a good thing.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:05 am

I said it at the time, but those prats should have voted for May’s deal. Huge mistake from Labour’s POV.
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Re: General Election Is On

Post by CombatClaret » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:05 am

Whilst it's clearly a once in a generation result I'm not sure it will be generational change. Once Brexit is in the rear view mirror and the 'Marxist antisemite' so many clearly had issue with is binned it will be back to more traditional UK issues. But Tories in the driving seat for now.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by LordBob » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:06 am

Since Brexit there has been a lot of excellent threads and posts on this hallowed site, I love you all and I think we carry on being the mentally agile people I hope we've always been but we had a democratic vote and our wishes were ignored even my friends that voted different to myself have said enough DEMOCRACY has to be seen to be done.
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Re: General Election Is On

Post by tiger76 » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:11 am

claret_in_exile wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:04 am
For all the gains that Blair/Brown made, Corbyn has undone all that credibility in four years. Labour gains in 2017 look like they were just a protest vote rather than approval of socialism.
Labour's big chance was 2017,Theresa May had a dire campaign,and brexit wasn't as divisive an issue,and even then they only made modest gains.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by RingoMcCartney » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:12 am

LordBob wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:06 am
Since Brexit there has been a lot of excellent threads and posts on this hallowed site, I love you all and I think we carry on being the mentally agile people I hope we've always been but we had a democratic vote and our wishes were ignored even my friends that voted different to myself have said enough DEMOCRACY has to be seen to be done.
It's only what I've been saying for 3 and a half years.

And I've had dogs abuse from a small gaggle of posters who simple refused to accept a very simple principle.


DEMOCRACY- IT MEANS SOMETIMES YOU LOSE
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Re: General Election Is On

Post by LongsideClaret » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:16 am

It would be f@cking hilarious if Burnley did elect a Tory MP. The conservatives and Brexit will be nothing short of disastrous for Burnley and people have actually voted for both.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by Wile E Coyote » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:16 am

BennyD wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:52 pm
Really? The exit pole suggests even Burnley May go blue. That kind of indicates more people think like me than they do like you, which is a blessing to the country.
of course, swine follow swine, but nothing intellectual about it, just a docile herd mentality. as I said, self satisfied and smug, but without one iota of common decency. I hope you're fatuous tribe excel themselves in the months to come, you deserve each other.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by BennyD » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:17 am

RingoMcCartney wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:12 am
It's only what I've been saying for 3 and a half years.

And I've had dogs abuse from a small gaggle of posters who simple refused to accept a very simple principle.


DEMOCRACY- IT MEANS SOMETIMES YOU LOSE
And if/when you do lose you should accept it in good grace, which is also what you should do in victory. However, the remainers make this very difficult...........

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by Spiral » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:20 am

I've always thought the "why won't you respect democracy" argument a bit pi$$y and childish. It's not about respect, that's just plain naïve, and you can't just expect people to stop fighting for what they believe because they lost a vote. The whole point in democracy is that it's robust enough to overcome any perceived obstruction when the mandate is clear and solid (and that is a perception in its truest sense, because opposition is a feature of democracy). Get the mandate and there's no impediment to power. Fail to get that clear mandate and you'll struggle. Well, here is that mandate and it's emphatic. No pi$$ing and moaning from me because it's literally pointless.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by CombatClaret » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:20 am

RingoMcCartney wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:12 am
It's only what I've been saying for 3 and a half years.

And I've had dogs abuse from a small gaggle of posters who simple refused to accept a very simple principle.


DEMOCRACY- IT MEANS SOMETIMES YOU LOSE
I think there's a difference between accepting you lost and rolling over on deeply held principals. What a lot of people including myself couldn't get to grips with is when you picked two 'winners' and they had totally different opinions of what the prize was. But that's one for the MA dissertations and histories yet to be written.

All I want is a happy & prosperous future for the 'normal' folk of the UK and it seems the choice has been loudly made who they think will deliver that, so forward into the future we go.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by nyclaret » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:21 am

Due to austerity, Blyth Valley has 14,847 (24.18%) children living in poverty.

26.7% of households are classed as fuel poor.

The unemployment rate is 31%.

And they just voted for Conservative...

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by Rowls » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:22 am

At least Jeremy Corbyn won't have to remain neutral on Brexit.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by Spiral » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:22 am

nyclaret wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:21 am
Due to austerity, Blyth Valley has 14,847 (24.18%) children living in poverty.

26.7% of households are classed as fuel poor.

The unemployment rate is 31%.

And they just voted for Conservative...
Nobody said these people were smart.

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by BennyD » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:23 am

STOP PRESS; I’m listening to a Labour candidate (Stoke Central) who is realistic about what is likely to happen tonight. It’s such a pity he might lose his seat. :) :)

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Re: General Election Is On

Post by Bfcboyo » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:25 am

LongsideClaret wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:16 am
It would be f@cking hilarious if Burnley did elect a Tory MP. The conservatives and Brexit will be nothing short of disastrous for Burnley and people have actually voted for both.
Do you actually believe this nonsense. Have you looked around the industrial estates and business parks in and around Burnley. Because the improvement and clear push and investment over the last ten years is there for all to see. All since the Tories have been in.

Oh yes I forgot that the country was going to be on its knees within months of the initial referendum absolute disaster.

Still waiting.

You are a robot who believes all anti Brexit nonsense and doom mongery.
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Re: General Election Is On

Post by Somethingfishy » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:25 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:16 am
of course, swine follow swine, but nothing intellectual about it, just a docile herd mentality. as I said, self satisfied and smug, but without one iota of common decency. I hope you're fatuous tribe excel themselves in the months to come, you deserve each other.
:lol: :lol: Spoken like a true sulking, foaming at the mouth, resorting to insults lefty. A complete failure to grasp political reality..a common theme with the left.
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