General Election Is On

[martin_p]

You just stick to delusion and trying to convince yourself that channel 4 news isn't left wing biased!



They had to withdraw the clip of boris that theyd claimed was him saying "people of colour"

Their main presenter , John Snow, filmed singing "f*** the tories at Glastonbury!!"

Channel 4 News, as balanced as you Marty!

Mein Kampf has a left wing bias from where you sit!

[martin_p]

Ringo's become a bit like Nigel Farage. People used to listen to him once of a day and he his views had a bit of influence but now has just become a total irreverence who is mostly ignored but for a few people who humour him every now and then for their own light entertainment.

Wrongo even used to trot out a few facts to back up his arguments. But then facts kept embarrassing him and they had a massive falling out so Wrongo refuses to even look at facts or acknowledge facts exist anymore.

[RingoMcCartney]

Mein Kampf has a left wing balance from where you sit!

And chairman Mao's Little Red Book has a right wing balance from where you sit!

Anyway, Boris "people of colour" climb down,John Snow......

Nah, forget it, cant be arsed, your way to far gone Marty.
I'll let you get on at analysing the weekly tractor production figures!

[evensteadiereddie]

[RingoMcCartney]

Ringo's become a bit like Nigel Farage. People used to listen to him once of a day and he his views had a bit of influence but now has just become a total irreverence who is mostly ignored but for a few people who humour him every now and then for their own light entertainment.

I am, and always have been in tune, often and early adopter of how the majority of the british people feel.

That's what angers and irritates the gaggle of far left, illiberal and remain voting gaggle that post on this messageboard.

Not a single of you would ever, in a million years, admit it.

Deep down you know it's true.

[evensteadiereddie]

[RingoMcCartney]

JOHN ASHWORTH

With friends like that!!!

[martin_p]

And chairman Mao's Little Red Book has a right wing balance from where you sit!

Anyway, Boris "people of colour" climb down,John Snow......

Nah, forget it, cant be arsed, your way to far gone Marty.
I'll let you get on at analysing the weekly tractor production figures!

You can’t even make your own jokes up!

Anyway, just to show there’s no hard feelings I got you a Christmas present. Hope you like it!

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[RingoMcCartney]

Tread carefully ladies!

I see the self confessed "Verbal Guerilla Warior" unhingededdie moves amongst us!

[Erasmus]

To Andrew JB. Andrew, I can see from your post that you are not a Marxist. You say that power resides within the political system, but Marx is very clear in pointing out that real power resides within the economic system. Hence his view that the ability of democratic governments to serve the interests the proletariat is severely limited. There is a lot to be said for that view.

[martin_p]

JOHN ASHWORTH

With friends like that!!!

You’re right. What sort of friend records a private conversation and releases it to the press. Just goes to show, even if you think they’re your friend, never trust a Tory!

[RingoMcCartney]

You can’t even make your own jokes up!

I've no need to make my own jokes up.

Theres always you!

[martin_p]

I've no need to make my own jokes up.

Theres always you!

This is top quality stuff!

[evensteadiereddie]

Spoons open already ?

[android]

You’re right. What sort of friend records a private conversation and releases it to the press. Just goes to show, even if you think they’re your friend, never trust a Tory!

Did it bother you when Corbyn and Ashworth lied about this or do only Tory lies matter?

[RMutt]

I am, and always have been in tune, often and early adopter of how the majority of the british people feel.

That's what angers and irritates the gaggle of far left, illiberal and remain voting gaggle that post on this messageboard.

Not a single of you would ever, in a million years, admit it.

Deep down you know it's true.

If only all the great intellectual thinkers, artists, musicians etc, had embraced populism like you. What a world it would be.

[martin_p]

Did it bother you when Corbyn and Ashworth lied about this or do only Tory lies matter?

Lied about what?

[RingoMcCartney]

If all the great intellectual thinkers, artists, musicians etc, have embraced populism.

At this election they'll be voting Labour.

[RingoMcCartney]

Every single labour government has left office with unemployment higher than when it took office.

LABOUR-

DOLE FOR THE MANY. NOT JUST THE FEW

[android]

Lied about what?

Corbyn and Ashworth both claiming that Ashworth's comments about Corbyn were just jokes or banter.

[martin_p]

Every single labour government has left office with unemployment higher than when it took office.

LABOUR-

DOLE FOR THE MANY. NOT JUST THE FEW

Blimey, has the clock gone round another hour already? Wrongo’s on his repeat news cycle now.

[martin_p]

Corbyn and Ashworth both claiming that Ashworth's comments about Corbyn were just jokes or banter.

And you know that’s a lie because?

[RingoMcCartney]

Last Labour Prime Minister , Gordon Brown-

"WEVE ABOLISHED BOOM AND BUST"

Note left in the treasury by outgoing Labour Minister Liam Byrne-

"SORRY, IM AFRAID THERE IS NO MONEY LEFT"

[android]

And you know that’s a lie because?

Because fortunately I'm not as stupid as I look.

[Swizzlestick]

Has Wrongo morphed into a bot stuck on repeat mode?

Is he also a former paediatric A&E and PICU nurse at Leeds Hospital?

[martin_p]

Because fortunately I'm not as stupid as I look.

You should let others be the judge of that!

Besides, even if it is a lie it’s hardly comparable with the Tory whoppers. Covering up why you were slagging off your boss behind his back v lying about not creating a border down the Irish Sea for example. Or lying about the number of hospitals you’re going to build, etc, etc.

[RingoMcCartney]

Because fortunately I'm not as stupid as I look.

Where as I couldn't possibly be as stupid as I look!....

[CrosspoolClarets]

I have had a look at the final Yougov MRP polling and it seems like the key to the whole thing is the Brexit Party and whether it really will get that share of the vote in northern seats. If it does, welcome to Number 10 Mr Corbyn, do your worst.

I hope (but don’t expect) that the MRP algorithms have got this wrong because they haven’t pulled in (say) Burnley directly, but have applied national findings to Burnley’s demographic.

It’s weird. Ashworth’s right, the Labour voter vibe is downright hostile in these seats, they cannot find enough votes, we all know that just from listening to clips from focus groups, yet Yougov have them close to a hung parliament. Somebody is wrong and tomorrow night could be surprising. My money is on a small majority of about 20 but with no confidence.

[martin_p]

Where as I couldn't possibly be as stupid as I look!....

Don’t underestimate yourself.

[Spijed]

I have had a look at the final Yougov MRP polling and it seems like the key to the whole thing is the Brexit Party and whether it really will get that share of the vote in northern seats. If it does, welcome to Number 10 Mr Corbyn, do your worst.

I hope (but don’t expect) that the MRP algorithms have got this wrong because they haven’t pulled in (say) Burnley directly, but have applied national findings to Burnley’s demographic.

It’s weird. Ashworth’s right, the Labour voter vibe is downright hostile in these seats, they cannot find enough votes, we all know that just from listening to clips from focus groups, yet Yougov have them close to a hung parliament. Somebody is wrong and tomorrow night could be surprising. My money is on a small majority of about 20 but with no confidence.

Crosspool,

Have you followed this guy on twitter. He predicted Canterbury going to Labour at the last election?

Dr Moderate
https://twitter.com/centrist_phone

[Mala591]

People's vote tomorrow.

Remain in the EU - vote Labour or Lib Dem
Leave the EU - vote Conservative

It's still just as difficult a decision to make as it was three and a half years ago so think carefully and MAKE SURE YOU VOTE.

[martin_p]

People's vote tomorrow.

Remain in the EU - vote Labour or Lib Dem
Leave the EU - vote Conservative

It's still just as difficult a decision to make as it was three and a half years ago so think carefully and MAKE SURE YOU VOTE.

You’re only guaranteed a true Brexit with the Brexit Party. If you want to leave the EU you should vote Brexit Party.

[CrosspoolClarets]

Crosspool,

Have you followed this guy on twitter. He predicted Canterbury going to Labour at the last election?

Dr Moderate
https://twitter.com/centrist_phone

Yes, that looks reasonably sensible. Predicting a Corbyn government.

Brexit aside, this all comes down to whether enough northern working class people will ever try voting for free market economics, with the risk and reward that entails. If they vote for Corbyn and all his baggage, and against Johnson who is more engaging than any other Tory, that is what they are choosing not to do.

I fear that if they turn the Tories down this time, the Tory party will give up and turn their back on the north - for good.

[RingoMcCartney]

Don’t underestimate yourself.

Something which, you could never ever be accused of!

[Dy1geo]

Everyone is focusing on whether Labour leavers will vote for the Tories in enough numbers to bring home the majority, but I think it will depend on Tory remainers and whether they switch to Lib Dem’s in enough numbers to lose Tory seats in South. My gut feeling is that Labour will lose some “leave area” seats but not has many as projected but in the South the fear of Corbyn and how it might affect wealth might just tip the balance for them to begrudgingly vote Tory again.

In 2017 whilst the polls pointed to a Tory majority in the final week we had outlier polls that had the gap close and even one with Labour in the lead and we haven’t had that this time and even yesterday the big YouGov poll put the Tories 9pts up.

You can get 9/4 on a no overall majority which equates to around 30% and I feel that is about right. My feeling is Tory majority in single figures, but even if the they get 322 or above with Sinn Fein and Speaker discounted Johnson will probably still get Brexit over the Line as he has no “Guakeward squad” this time.

[RingoMcCartney]

Labour - "we're going for the billionaires"

Were they to lower their aim and just go for the millionaires . Their front bench and most of their shadow cabinet would be in their own taxation cross hairs!

LABOUR -

FOR THEMSELVES. NOT THE MANY

[martin_p]

Labour - "we're going for the billionaires"

Were they to lower their aim and just go for the millionaires . Their front bench and most of their shadow cabinet would be in their own taxation cross hairs!

LABOUR -

FOR THEMSELVES. NOT THE MANY

But their front bench will pay more tax. As government ministers they’ll earn more than £80k so pay more tax.

[RingoMcCartney]

But their front bench will pay more tax. As government ministers they’ll earn more than £80k so pay more tax.

Marty, a cursory glance at last nights chat on here will show you were well and truly schooled about the effects of labour and their taxation plans. That is until you mysteriously , and unusually, disappeared into the ether when you were asked a couple of tricky questions and finally ran out combining pedantry, goalpost shifting and flying in the face of reality!

You should probably stop there to avoid looking even more silly!

[RingoMcCartney]

I used the phrases "dwellers of the metropolitan London borough of Ivory Towers"

Labour were the working class party. Now they're the Islington dinner party "

"Disconnected metropolitan bubble dwellers"

For well over 3 years.

And boy oh boy have I been mocked for using these phrases!

Just watching BBC daily politics.

"The tories have an 18 point lead over labour amongst non and semi skilled voters."







Mystic McCartney strikes again!

[martin_p]

Marty, a cursory glance at last nights chat on here will show you were well and truly schooled about the effects of labour and their taxation plans. That is until you mysteriously , and unusually, disappeared into the ether when you were asked a couple of tricky questions and finally ran out combining pedantry, goalpost shifting and flying in the face of reality!

You should probably stop there to avoid looking even more silly!

Mysteriously disappeared? I went to bed!

Nice shift of focus after you were wrong again Wrongo.

[RingoMcCartney]

Just been said on BBC daily politics-

Jeremy Corbyn is polling dissatisfaction figures, almost as bad as Prince Andrew!!!!

[Quickenthetempo]

You should let others be the judge of that!

Besides, even if it is a lie it’s hardly comparable with the Tory whoppers. Covering up why you were slagging off your boss behind his back v lying about not creating a border down the Irish Sea for example. Or lying about the number of hospitals you’re going to build, etc, etc.

That's the biggest problem in politics or in fact life. I don't mind him telling porkies because he's on my side.

Just admit he got caught out and move on.

[RingoMcCartney]

Mysteriously disappeared? I went to bed!

Nice shift of focus after you were wrong again Wrongo.

The only one shifting focus is you Marty !

From the fact that labours front bench and shadow cabinet are millionaires and would be in their own taxation cross hairs if they were to "go for millionaires" instead of "going for the billionaires

A blind man , without the ability to focus, on a galloping horse can see that!!!



LABOUR -

FOR THEMSELVES. NOT THE MANY

[Quickenthetempo]

It's just been said on the BBC that early indications of postal votes is it's terrible news for Labour.
I didn't think anyone could look at them until counting starts on Thursday night?

[Devils_Advocate]

That's the biggest problem in politics or in fact life. I don't mind him telling porkies because he's on my side.

Just admit he got caught out and move on.

But thats not the case with this. Ashworth is stating he wasnt being serious and others are saying thats rubbish. You are one of the first when people are accused of certain things to demand good proof and evidence and whilst everyone can have their own opinion there is nothing in this that is factually demonstrable as a lie.

If we took this as the standard of proof for categorically concluding something was a lie then pretty much everything that comes out of the Tory's and Brexit Party's mouths and media machines could equally be considered a lie.

[martin_p]

The only one shifting focus is you Marty !

From the fact that labours front bench and shadow cabinet are millionaires and would be in their own taxation cross hairs if they were to "go for millionaires" instead of "going for the billionaires

A blind man , without the ability to focus, on a galloping horse can see that!!!



LABOUR -

FOR THEMSELVES. NOT THE MANY

I’ll say it again and maybe it’ll sink in. If Labour are able to get into power and implement their tax plans their front bench will earn well in excess of £80k and will therefore pay more tax on those earnings over £80k. So they very much are in their own taxation cross hairs. Now you can keep on denying it if you want but you’ll just make yourself look even more stupid.

[martin_p]

That's the biggest problem in politics or in fact life. I don't mind him telling porkies because he's on my side.

Just admit he got caught out and move on.

And it’s also a fact of life that some lies are more important than others.

[RingoMcCartney]

I’ll say it again and maybe it’ll sink in. If Labour are able to get into power and implement their tax plans their front bench will earn well in excess of £80k and will therefore pay more tax on those earnings over £80k. So they very much are in their own taxation cross hairs. Now you can keep on denying it if you want but you’ll just make yourself look even more stupid.

I'll let what clarethomer, taio and Paul Waine said to you last night as they tied you in knots sink in!

No doubt when Paul Waine returns to the board, he'll noticed you disappeared into the ether, rather than answering his, awkward for you, question. He'll possibly ask you again. I just hope he asks you earlier than last night so get the chance to answer before you "go to bed!!!!"




BURNLEY - WE HAD AN ACCIDENT AND EMERGENCY UNIT.

TILL LABOUR SHUT IT

[TheFamilyCat]

I used the phrases "dwellers of the metropolitan London borough of Ivory Towers"

Labour were the working class party. Now they're the Islington dinner party "

"Disconnected metropolitan bubble dwellers"

For well over 3 years.

And boy oh boy have I been mocked for using these phrases!

Just watching BBC daily politics.

"The tories have an 18 point lead over labour amongst non and semi skilled voters."







Mystic McCartney strikes again!

Christmas is coming and the turkeys are voting.

Shocking that you are celebrating when the "feckers at the bottom", who you so righteously claim to defend, are about to be shafted by a bunch of toffs.

[RingoMcCartney]

Labour - "we're going for the billionaires"

Were they to lower their aim and just go for the millionaires . Their front bench and most of their shadow cabinet would be in their own taxation cross hairs!

LABOUR -

FOR THEMSELVES. NOT THE MANY

Straight outta Animal Farm Comrade!!!

Oink! Oink!