Supporters Board

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:26 am

Did anyone else apply for this? Sadly, I haven't been shortlisted.

Dear supporter

Thank you for your support and interest in joining the supporters board, I’m pleased to say we have had a significant number of applications, which of course is great news for everyone concerned, however it does make the selection process more difficult for us. The large response has given us a broad range of candidates from many different backgrounds with diverse qualities, it’s not been an easy task to make our final selections

As I’m sure you may be aware our CEO David Baldwin has been driving this initiative and overseeing the selection process and he has appointed 4 members of staff to review all the applications. These reviews have been completed independent of each other, then collated and hence the selections have then been cross referenced against each other to ascertain common selections and informing the final selection process.

Unfortunately, on this occasion your application has not been successful, however we would like to retain your details on our waiting list of interested parties, with your consent of course.

Thanks again for your support and considered application any questions then please feel free to contact me.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:42 am

Hopefully it's attracted some new blood, and not just the usual suspects

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:43 am

Grumps wrote:Hopefully it's attracted some new blood, and not just the usual suspects

Which usual suspects ?

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:00 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Which usual suspects ?

Representatives from supporters clubs, it would be nice to get people who have never got involved with the club in this type of thing, and would bring fresh ideas to the table.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:12 am

Well, I don't know if I am a 'usual suspect' as I doubt anyone on here even knows what I look like, but I can confirm I was successful in my application.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:17 am

What's the plans Jedi? How often are you meeting?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:17 am

jedi_master wrote:Well, I don't know if I am a 'usual suspect' as I doubt anyone on here even knows what I look like, but I can confirm I was successful in my application.

Congratulations jedi. The usual suspects argument usually come from people who want to moan but don’t want to do anything themselves. I’m sure he was probably aiming at me but I’m proud of what I’ve done alongside the club be it representing supporters clubs, website or as an individual.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:34 am

ClaretTony wrote:Congratulations jedi. The usual suspects argument usually come from people who want to moan but don’t want to do anything themselves. I’m sure he was probably aiming at me but I’m proud of what I’ve done alongside the club be it representing supporters clubs, website or as an individual.

Please don't guess at what I was, or was not aiming at. If I'd meant you, I'd have said you
I went to a meeting once at the club, where most others present represented various supporters groups. They all had the same thoughts and didn't seem to accept any view which didn't line up with theirs.
I would suggest a make up of half supporters clubs reps and half independent supporters

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:49 am

Grumps wrote:Please don't guess at what I was, or was not aiming at. If I'd meant you, I'd have said you

I'm not guessing, you yourself said representatives of supporters clubs and it is common knowledge that I've been very much part of that. I had no need to guess.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:55 am

ClaretTony wrote:I'm not guessing, you yourself said representatives of supporters clubs and it is common knowledge that I've been very much part of that. I had no need to guess.

When was the last time you represented a supporters group at a meeting? I thought you went as editor of this site

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:09 am

Grumps wrote:When was the last time you represented a supporters group at a meeting? I thought you went as editor of this site

Last meeting was a few weeks ago - been representing the supporters clubs at the Supporters Liaison Group for well over a decade.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:15 am

ClaretTony wrote:Last meeting was a few weeks ago - been representing the supporters clubs at the Supporters Liaison Group for well over a decade.

I wasn't aware, though I still stand by my original response was not aimed personally at you,up to you whether you believe it or not.

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:26 am

Grumps wrote: I went to a meeting once at the club, where most others present represented various supporters groups. They all had the same thoughts and didn't seem to accept any view which didn't line up with theirs.

Ie your views?

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:30 am

Surely it’s better to have representatives who are involved with supporters clubs or message boards as they interact with a large number of other supporters. Where an individual supporter like myself only interact with a dozen or so supporters

4:20 · Post by **4:20** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:41 am

i'd be crap in this role, for nearly 12 years i thought Colin Hendry played for us.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:52 am

Burnley Ace wrote:Ie your views?

Not at all, I wasn't there in that capacity

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:57 am

Inchy wrote:Surely it’s better to have representatives who are involved with supporters clubs or message boards as they interact with a large number of other supporters. Where an individual supporter like myself only interact with a dozen or so supporters

In my view it needs a balance of all. For example a recent thread on here showed those who organise supporters coaches have a strong view on away games being moved for TV, therefore if it was just supporters groups present, if that matter was discussed they would all be of the same view. But what about the many thousands of fans who don't travel away, and maybe the changes suit them, who would put their views forward if they are not represented

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:00 am

Grumps wrote:In my view it needs a balance of all. For example a recent thread on here showed those who organise supporters coaches have a strong view on away games being moved for TV, therefore if it was just supporters groups present, if that matter was discussed they would all be of the same view. But what about the many thousands of fans who don't travel away, and maybe the changes suit them, who would put their views forward if they are not represented

If you think it was just those involved in organising coaches or representing supporters groups who had strong views then you are very much mistaken.

Can I ask whether you applied? Given your strong beliefs on the supporters' board I would suggest you must have done.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:15 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:What's the plans Jedi? How often are you meeting?

The lady who informed me of the application being successful said we will be contacted next in November to arrange first meeting/location. Unsure yet on regularity of the meeting but I will let people know.

I assumed there would be more than just myself off this website who were successful but maybe I am wrong. I'll certainly aim to take views off this board/seek feedback on topics that are up for discussion at the meetings from posters on here to present back. I am really looking forward to it, despite at this stage a few unknowns about what the full responsibilities will entail

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:18 am

Well this is fun. As If people even bicker about this.

In all seriousness best thing for something like this is a blend of fans from all sorts of demographic. Sounds a positive move by the club.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:18 am

ClaretTony wrote:If you think it was just those involved in organising coaches or representing supporters groups who had strong views then you are very much mistaken.

Can I ask whether you applied? Given your strong beliefs on the supporters' board I would suggest you must have done.

You are correct

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:25 am

4:20 wrote:i'd be crap in this role, for nearly 12 years i thought Colin Hendry played for us.

when did he leave?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:26 am

jedi_master wrote:I am really looking forward to it, despite at this stage a few unknowns about what the full responsibilities will entail

Providing the money to sign a new midfielder in January

RMutt · Post by **RMutt** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:32 am

jedi_master wrote: I doubt anyone on here even knows what I look like,

Well, I looked you up on line. And I’ve never seen you at a game. There is a small bloke sits near me, but he has nothing like your sticky out ears.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:38 am

I ticked interested in something a while ago, maybe on here, maybe through the club.

Think they already had enough applicants though, as I received some sort of thanks but no thanks.
I didnt expect a yes you're in, and I didn't get a unlucky email. Maybe it was another group.
My memory isnt what it used to be

Something I'm always interested in, and some may notice I do not just tow the party line, always give my opinion, and not afraid to ask strong or awkward questions.

Mr Dyche even offered me a job last week due to my wide range of knowledge regards the England setup, players contracts/agent work and scouting ability.

Think he was joking though

Fretters · Post by **Fretters** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:45 am

I hope they don't write to unsuccessful job applicants with the words 'I'm pleased to say' in the first line or that's just cruel!

4:20 · Post by **4:20** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:00 pm

claretblue wrote:when did he leave?

When David May left, 2004 i think.

Awayfromburnley · Post by **Awayfromburnley** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:36 pm

Fretters wrote:I hope they don't write to unsuccessful job applicants with the words 'I'm pleased to say' in the first line or that's just cruel!

That's a very good point. Please tell me that isn't the actual wording?

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:41 pm

Awayfromburnley wrote:That's a very good point. Please tell me that isn't the actual wording?

2nd line! See post 1.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:51 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Last meeting was a few weeks ago - been representing the supporters clubs at the Supporters Liaison Group for well over a decade.

I'm guessing I'm not the only one who was unaware that we had a Supporters Liaison Group? What's their remit?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:58 pm

aggi wrote:I'm guessing I'm not the only one who was unaware that we had a Supporters Liaison Group? What's their remit?

It was always advertised on the club’s website. It had an independent chairman and reps from supporters groups. It has had some successes over the years since it was formed in Fletcher’s time as chief executive. I suppose it was easy to miss if you aren’t a member of any supporters group.

I think, from what I’ve read, that this new group (the Supporters Board) will be much better in that there will be more and a wider range of supporters on it.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:11 pm

ClaretTony wrote:It was always advertised on the club’s website. It had an independent chairman and reps from supporters groups. It has had some successes over the years since it was formed in Fletcher’s time as chief executive. I suppose it was easy to miss if you aren’t a member of any supporters group.

I think, from what I’ve read, that this new group (the Supporters Board) will be much better in that there will be more and a wider range of supporters on it.

Your last paragraph is exactly what I was saying, is it not?

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:12 pm

Supporters bored
We certainly were under Cotterill and Howe.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:36 pm

Grumps wrote:Your last paragraph is exactly what I was saying, is it not?

No

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:47 pm

So in your words, the liason group was made up of members of supporters groups, but the new one will be better because it will have a wider range of supporters on it, how on earth is that not what I said when I hoped it wasn't made up of the usual suspects ( reps from supporters groups) and more independent supporters would be allowed on

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:03 pm

I think it’s important to have the viewpoints of people outside Supporters Groups. Supporter’s groups are not always a force for good - I’ve witnessed racism and violence from some. On the other hand I’ve seen them looking after elderly drunk supporters. So think I’m saying there should be a balance between Groups and non-groups

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:11 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:I think it’s important to have the viewpoints of people outside Supporters Groups. Supporter’s groups are not always a force for good - I’ve witnessed racism and violence from some. On the other hand I’ve seen them looking after elderly drunk supporters. So think I’m saying there should be a balance between Groups and non-groups

So basically you are accusing some Supporters Groups of violence and racism. That’s some condemnation of those groups.

Local cricketer · Post by **Local cricketer** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:34 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:I think it’s important to have the viewpoints of people outside Supporters Groups. Supporter’s groups are not always a force for good - I’ve witnessed racism and violence from some. On the other hand I’ve seen them looking after elderly drunk supporters. So think I’m saying there should be a balance between Groups and non-groups

I think 7 or 8 people sat around a table discussing stuff is slightly different than the Lazio ultras turning up

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:35 pm

ClaretTony wrote:So basically you are accusing some Supporters Groups of violence and racism. That’s some condemnation of those groups.

That’s true. I’m sure the majority of the groups do a cracking job by the way but I certainly wouldn’t want to be represented by or even sit near some of the individuals in a couple of those groups.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:41 pm

ClaretTony wrote:It was always advertised on the club’s website. It had an independent chairman and reps from supporters groups. It has had some successes over the years since it was formed in Fletcher’s time as chief executive. I suppose it was easy to miss if you aren’t a member of any supporters group.

I think, from what I’ve read, that this new group (the Supporters Board) will be much better in that there will be more and a wider range of supporters on it.

Does it just deal with issues around supporters groups or general fans too?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:45 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:That’s true. I’m sure the majority of the groups do a cracking job by the way but I certainly wouldn’t want to be represented by or even sit near some of the individuals in a couple of those groups.

Down to individuals now and no supporters group can be held responsible for an individual.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:46 pm

aggi wrote:Does it just deal with issues around supporters groups or general fans too?

With anything, certainly not supporters group issues. I’ve picked up several things from this message board to take to those meetings.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:28 pm

Usual suspects are people who volunteer most often, when they see something needs to be done.

We should be grateful for usual suspects.

Marty Dobson · Post by **Marty Dobson** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:32 pm

Has an appointment been made to the position of Supporters Liaison Officer does anyone know?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:33 pm

Marty Dobson wrote:Has an appointment been made to the position of Supporters Liaison Officer does anyone know?

Yes. Saw it on the official site a few weeks ago. She’s called Anita Goodenough. I hope she is.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:43 pm

IanMcL wrote:Usual suspects are people who volunteer most often, when they see something needs to be done.

We should be grateful for usual suspects.

But in CTs own words this group will be better because it has a wider range of supporters.
Sometimes things need fresh ideas to improve.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:05 pm

Grumps wrote:But in CTs own words this group will be better because it has a wider range of supporters.
Sometimes things need fresh ideas to improve.

No issue with that. The point was to disagree with the posting saying that only usual suspects apply. Usual suspects are vital. A wider catchment always a bonus.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:20 pm

ClaretTony wrote:So basically you are accusing some Supporters Groups of violence and racism. That’s some condemnation of those groups.

I think "some" was quite an important word in there

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:20 pm

IanMcL wrote:Usual suspects are people who volunteer most often, when they see something needs to be done.

We should be grateful for usual suspects.

That does tend to be the way.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:50 pm

IanMcL wrote:No issue with that. The point was to disagree with the posting saying that only usual suspects apply. Usual suspects are vital. A wider catchment always a bonus.

Don't think anyone actually said that