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Ollie Norwood

Post by KRBFC » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:03 am

Read a good interview about how he was a season ticket holder up until he was 16, of course I was aware he was born here but wasn’t sure he was a real Burnley fan. The question is, why have we seemingly never been really linked with him? He’s clearly good enough at this level. I’d have him in permanently over a loan signing of Drinkwater any day of the week, i believe if he was here, he’d start every week.

It’s an interesting one how Rodriguez gets all the love and talk but Norwood largely ignored. Harvey Barnes I believe another born in Burnley, does he consider himself one of us?

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Re: Ollie Norwood

Post by claptrappers_union » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:23 am

I only learned recently try that Harvey Barnes is the son of Paul Barnes.

Harvey was born the same week his Dad scored a goal in a 3-1 defeat at Bristol City. A few weeks later he signed for Huddersfield.

I’ve noticed his Wikipedia has been updated - his Place of Birth now says Leicester. I’m pretty sure it’s Burnley though, though he was brought up in Leicester so he won’t consider being from Burnley.

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Re: Ollie Norwood

Post by KRBFC » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:35 am

claptrappers_union wrote:I only learned recently try that Harvey Barnes is the son of Paul Barnes.

Harvey was born the same week his Dad scored a goal in a 3-1 defeat at Bristol City. A few weeks later he signed for Huddersfield.

I’ve noticed his Wikipedia has been updated - his Place of Birth now says Leicester. I’m pretty sure it’s Burnley though, though he was brought up in Leicester so he won’t consider being from Burnley.
Yeah I was certain he was born here, wasn’t aware his Dad was an ex Clarets player. Makes sense though, born here for a week or two, poor lad was a few more weeks away from converting to the Clarets full time.

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Re: Ollie Norwood

Post by claretblue » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:41 am

claptrappers_union wrote:Harvey was born the same week his Dad scored a goal in a 3-1 defeat at Bristol City. A few weeks later he signed for Huddersfield.
I can't believe Huddersfield would signed a one month old player! :?

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Re: Ollie Norwood

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:56 am

KRBFC wrote:Read a good interview about how he was a season ticket holder up until he was 16, of course I was aware he was born here but wasn’t sure he was a real Burnley fan. The question is, why have we seemingly never been really linked with him? He’s clearly good enough at this level. I’d have him in permanently over a loan signing of Drinkwater any day of the week, i believe if he was here, he’d start every week.

It’s an interesting one how Rodriguez gets all the love and talk but Norwood largely ignored. Harvey Barnes I believe another born in Burnley, does he consider himself one of us?
We have been linked with him loads of times over the years but none of them were anything other than paper talk. I wouldn't have him in our team over our CM's possibly at a stretch Jack Cork.

I'd certainly have him in our squad though.

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Re: Ollie Norwood

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:08 am

Ive recommended him at every club hes played for
I dont understand why we've never considered him especially with his Irish ancestory and he takes a mean free kick.Hopefully not on Saturday

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Re: Ollie Norwood

Post by TVC15 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:10 am

Burnley1989 wrote:We have been linked with him loads of times over the years but none of them were anything other than paper talk. I wouldn't have him in our team over our CM's possibly at a stretch Jack Cork.

I'd certainly have him in our squad though.
I think it was in Dyche’s first summer with us that we definitely had the opportunity to buy Ollie. We were approached by his agent and we could not afford his wages - I don’t think there was a transfer fee involved as from memory he was end of contract. I know someone who is still in regular contact with him and known him for years.
Sounds like he is a great lad who has worked really hard and it’s good to see him doing really well.
Theodore’s lad and I saw him play at school where he was head and shoulders above everyone else

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:14 am

Had a good career. Especially for Northern Ireland until this year. Always done well against us. But not convinced he’s ever been as good as what we have had at the time. Never would have been ahead of marney, Barton and Jones or cork, defour, Westwood and Hendrick.

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Post by KRBFC » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:21 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Had a good career. Especially for Northern Ireland until this year. Always done well against us. But not convinced he’s ever been as good as what we have had at the time. Never would have been ahead of marney, Barton and Jones or cork, defour, Westwood and Hendrick.
You wouldn’t have him over Cork? I feel like Cork plays a pivotal scrappy role, similar to Marney, a lot of leg work so maybe you’re right in terms of wouldn’t fit the system but imo Cork is the 1st player who needs upgrading.

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Post by TVC15 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:29 am

Tbf there is a reason why this the first season he has played in the Premier League. He was sold previously twice by promoted clubs and was not always a regular in the teams he has played at.
Ollie has never been the biggest or the quickest and they are the 2 main things that held him back from playing for bigger clubs.
That Sheff United team are full of players from the lower leagues who are playing really well under a manager not too dissimilar to SD in how he gets his players to play in a system and over achieve.
I think Ollie was good enough to play in one of SDs initial squads but as said we could not afford him at the time. But for most of the midfields we have had since then there is nothing to suggest he was a better player than what we had - which is what the other teams (who were below us) also thought when they were selling him.

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Post by Chester Perry » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:21 am

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different version of similar interview

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Re: Ollie Norwood

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:32 am

claptrappers_union wrote:I only learned recently try that Harvey Barnes is the son of Paul Barnes.

Harvey was born the same week his Dad scored a goal in a 3-1 defeat at Bristol City. A few weeks later he signed for Huddersfield.

I’ve noticed his Wikipedia has been updated - his Place of Birth now says Leicester. I’m pretty sure it’s Burnley though, though he was brought up in Leicester so he won’t consider being from Burnley.
Problem is you can't believe what's on Wiki half of the time which is a shame. I was always under the impression that he was born in Burnley, similarly Harry Davis (now at Grimsby) who was born in Burnley when his dad Steve played for us.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:36 am

KRBFC wrote:You wouldn’t have him over Cork? I feel like Cork plays a pivotal scrappy role, similar to Marney, a lot of leg work so maybe you’re right in terms of wouldn’t fit the system but imo Cork is the 1st player who needs upgrading.
No. I wouldn't have him ahead of Cork who has played almost 250 more premier league games. 8-)

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:38 am

ClaretTony wrote:Problem is you can't believe what's on Wiki half of the time which is a shame. I was always under the impression that he was born in Burnley, similarly Harry Davis (now at Grimsby) who was born in Burnley when his dad Steve played for us.
Changed it back

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:47 am

ClaretTony wrote:Problem is you can't believe what's on Wiki half of the time which is a shame. I was always under the impression that he was born in Burnley, similarly Harry Davis (now at Grimsby) who was born in Burnley when his dad Steve played for us.
It is amazing what you find on there though.
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Re: Ollie Norwood

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:10 am

my mate played against Vardy when he was playing for Colne against Vardy's Fleetwood, think they lost 8v1 and Vardy got 6

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:12 am

Burnley1989 wrote:my mate played against Vardy when he was playing for Colne against Vardy's Fleetwood, think they lost 8v1 and Vardy got 6
My brother played against him and he scored 5 or 6. Possibly same game.

Has one of them faces that means he wouldn't have scored 1 against me, and im not a defender :D
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Post by Longsidelenny » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:30 am

You sound like a good footballer cricketfield if you can mark vardyout of the game utc

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:34 am

Probably one of the best who never made it
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Post by Longsidelenny » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:37 am

why was that not dedicated enough utc

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Re: Ollie Norwood

Post by Claret Till I Die » Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:04 pm

Too busy going on holidays....

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Post by IanMcL » Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:06 pm

claretblue wrote:I can't believe Huddersfield would signed a one month old player! :?

:)
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Post by Claretmatt4 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:31 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:Harvey was born the same week his Dad scored a goal in a 3-1 defeat at Bristol City. A few weeks later he signed for Huddersfield.
Hell of an assumption to make for a baby only a few weeks old. Guess they were right though.
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Re: Ollie Norwood

Post by MT03ALG » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:27 pm

Have we signed the son (born in Burnley?) of Rouwen Hennings as yet ? Rouwen has scored 5 goals for Fortuna Duesseldorf this season...average Kicker mark = 3.81 (best is 1.00 worst is 6.00)

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Re: Ollie Norwood

Post by Wile E Coyote » Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:31 pm

burnley let brian robson go, so we weren't exactly great at spotting talent where we ?

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:57 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:burnley let brian robson go, so we weren't exactly great at spotting talent where we ?
Didnt we turn down beardsley and essien too and released Dixon,Sonner and Pugh who all had better careers than the level we released them at.

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Post by Darnhill Claret » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:14 pm

Steve Bruce??

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Post by Foulthrow » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:19 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote:Steve Bruce??
Steve Barnes. XJ8.

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Post by ClaretTony » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:34 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Didnt we turn down beardsley and essien too and released Dixon,Sonner and Pugh who all had better careers than the level we released them at.
Not sure on Beardsley but 100% we didn’t turn Essien down. He was in the north west and trained with us for a few days as a favour. I do remember Beardsley playing against us for Carlisle and running the show. He’d have been very young then.

We did give Dixon a free. He went to Chester and they gave him a free. He went to Bury and then to Stoke for peanuts. No doubt that he went on to have an outstanding career but Dixon himself has said that he probably deserved those free transfers at the time.

Sonner did well eventually but on leaving Burnley he then played for SC Viktoria 04 Köln, BFC Preussen and Erzgebirge Aue before suddenly returning to England with Ipswich, Sheff Wed & Birmingham. He’d been a striker at Burnley but succeeded as a midfielder.

Pugh played at a lower level than we were at until 2013/14. He only ever spent one season at a level higher than us.

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Post by FulledgeClaret » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:46 pm

We also let Ian Rush slip through our fingers in the late 70's , according to his book he had a trial with us in 77

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Post by claret_in_exile » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:08 am

I remember Danny Sonner getting a hat-trick against Wigan in the reserves many moons ago. It was Burnley's first hat-trick in any game for a while - I think it was still some time before Graham Lancashire got his hat-trick in the first team (away at Wrexham?)

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