Knives and Forks utd versus MIGHTY CLARETS

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:44 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote:Grow up.

We look like we're devoid of energy. Not the same thing.

Devoid of energy? No reason to be like that. Swap energy for ideas, and you might be correct,.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:44 pm

Rovers 0 Sheff Weds 1 ... a very very small bit of good news.

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:44 pm

Devoid of ideas and quality in truth.

Barry_Chuckle · Post by **Barry_Chuckle** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:44 pm

Highlight of my day, my feed just went down at 84.10 mins.
There is a god

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:44 pm

The ratings thread will be interesting tonight

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:45 pm

Barry_Chuckle wrote:Highlight of my day, my feed just went down at 84.10 mins.
There is a god

Mine stuttered then as well

But then came back on

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:45 pm

Tell you what though would sign 5 or 6 of these Sheffield utd lads

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:46 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:The ratings thread will be interesting tonight

Can't imagine there will be many with 6+.

Texanclaret16 · Post by **Texanclaret16** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:46 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Rovers 0 Sheff Weds 1 ... a very very small bit of good news.

City now beating saints more small good news

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:46 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Tell you what though would sign 5 or 6 of these Sheffield utd lads

Have they a bigger budget than us for signing players?

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:47 pm

On the positive side we didn't lose the second half....

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:47 pm

burnleymik wrote:Can't imagine there will be many with 6+.

6+ ???

I'm looking at 3's or less

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:47 pm

burnleymik wrote:Can't imagine there will be many with 6+.

From what I've seen on stream, Taylor deserves at least that. That's about it though, although my stream has been down for 90%.

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:47 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Just think about the money wasted on Gibson and vydra we could have got a quality midfielder in

Don't think we need a midfielder.
We need a plan first.

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:47 pm

Fleck is some player

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:47 pm

I blame Eddie Howe, all this passing across the back four and slow build up.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:48 pm

burnleymik wrote:Can't imagine there will be many with 6+.

Tells you the level of the overall performance when somebody who’s only played 45mins is the front runner for our man of the match

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:48 pm

Nonayforever wrote:Don't think we need a midfielder.
We need a plan first.

And Gibson wasn't a waste anyway, unless you knew that neither Mee or Tarks were going to avoid any lengthy injuries. As nobody did know that, he wasn't a waste, he's been a good backup.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:48 pm

burnleymik wrote:Last two games without Wood we haven;t looked like we could score in a brothel.

No he's been a big miss,just hitting form as well after a slow start,whereas Barnes started like a house on fire,and now he's gone off the boil.

We look a different side with Wood and Barnes up top,they are a nuisance for defenders in a way Jay isn't.

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:49 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Have they a bigger budget than us for signing players?

My commentary says that one of their players, forget which one, was bought from Coventry for next to nothing !!

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:49 pm

Believe that’s John Lundstram’s 50th effort of the game right there.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:49 pm

And Rovers level. If they win, I'll be gutted for 2 reasons as I was extremely tempted for an accumulator this morning for 4 results:

England lose
We lose
Leeds win
Rovers win

Texanclaret16 · Post by **Texanclaret16** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:50 pm

burnleymik wrote:On the positive side we didn't lose the second half....

Yet

still time

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:50 pm

FactualFrank wrote:And Gibson wasn't a waste anyway, unless you knew that neither Mee or Tarks were going to avoid any lengthy injuries. As nobody did know that, he wasn't a waste, he's been a good backup.

Back up ? That's long's job

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:51 pm

FactualFrank wrote:And Rovers level. If they win, I'll be gutted for 2 reasons as I was extremely tempted for an accumulator this morning for 4 results:

England lose
We lose
Leeds win
Rovers win

***** sake - Rovers win!

I'd have had all 4 feckin results correct. *******!

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:52 pm

FactualFrank wrote:And Rovers level. If they win, I'll be gutted for 2 reasons as I was extremely tempted for an accumulator this morning for 4 results:

England lose
We lose
Leeds win
Rovers win

Oops

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:52 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:Why aren't we getting any decisions ffs. No foul on Cork ? Really !!!!!!!

Cork is like an empty crisps packet in 100mph wind.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:52 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:Oops

Just a bit!

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:53 pm

KRBFC wrote:Cork is like an empty crisps packet in 100mph wind.

Ha

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:54 pm

That first half was as bad as any I can remember. Same as last week. Both games we have been in such a terrible position at half time that there has been no way back. Dyche needs to get them up for that first half next week.

Bertiebeehead · Post by **Bertiebeehead** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:55 pm

Lowton is shocking but a **** poor performance all round.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:59 pm

burnleymik wrote:That first half was as bad as any I can remember. Same as last week. Both games we have been in such a terrible position at half time that there has been no way back. Dyche needs to get them up for that first half next week.

The last 2 1st halves have been dire,there has to be a reaction next week,we're at home and need a result,the bottom 3 is far too close for my liking,a""es have to be kicked i'm afraid,there's no disgrace in losing,but to lose in the manner we have today is unacceptable.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:01 pm

tiger76 wrote:The last 2 1st halves have been dire,there has to be a reaction next week,we're at home and need a result,the bottom 3 is far too close for my liking,a""es have to be kicked i'm afraid,there's no disgrace in losing,but to lose in the manner we have today is unacceptable.

I'm not sure what we can do to stop the losing streak. Taylor comes in - that has to be mandatory. Fingers crossed that Wood can come back in - if he can't, start Vydra he can't do any bloody worse. And I'd want Hendrick in CM if Brady can start.

That might help.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:02 pm

England lose
Rovers win
Clarets lose
Bolton win

IT has multiple orgasms ( only kidding. He can only do 1 a week )

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:03 pm

I don’t mind Rodriguez for £5-10m but I do hope some people understand why I was so vehemently against spending up to £20m on him in 2018. He’s a squad player at the very best I’m afraid. Not a patch on Chris Wood.

Parkvilla · Post by **Parkvilla** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:04 pm

Lowton, Pieters, Cork, Hendrick and the mighty Jay Rod, who should never have been signed, not good enough. But when the manager picks the same team, same tactics, same formation and same boring knock it long into the channel or if that option isn't on the just launch it. The manager HAS to change and A pick his best 11 or B change tactics. A Saturday on the turf is becoming very boring

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:13 pm

Bad day at the office we move on

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:22 pm

Seans A game is fine when he has his A game players available. But when some of those key players are missing, e.g Wood, then playing the same way but with different players isn't working

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:29 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I'm not sure what we can do to stop the losing streak. Taylor comes in - that has to be mandatory. Fingers crossed that Wood can come back in - if he can't, start Vydra he can't do any bloody worse. And I'd want Hendrick in CM if Brady can start.

That might help.

Closing the opposition down and stopping gifting goals would be a start,for some reason we looked off the pace today,which is strange as everyone knew the type of game Sheff Utd would employ,and yet we weren't prepared for their tactics.

Taylor deffo has to start,Wood returning would be a big lift,ideally Hendrick would come into CM,if Wood's not fit we could play 4-5-1 but that formation doesn't suit our squad,Vydra starting would be a surprise but we need creativity from somewhere.

The whole performance was flat today which isn't Dyche like and is worrying,TBF usually when we'''ve had to pull a result out of a hat in recent seasons we've come up with the goods,let's hope this is a catalyst for an upturn in fortunes,the league is so tight that a win next week could see us back in the top half of the table,as tough as today was this isn't the time to press the panic button.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:32 pm

After five minutes of that game you could tell we were going to get hammered,the obvious lack of interest by the team today was frightening.

MT03ALG · Post by **MT03ALG** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:38 pm

No shots on target and no offsides = No Chris Wood !!

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:41 pm

FCBurnley wrote:England lose
Rovers win
Clarets lose
Bolton win

IT has multiple orgasms ( only kidding. He can only do 1 a week )

Depends how many nights your missus stays over.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:54 pm

Steve1956 wrote:After five minutes of that game you could tell we were going to get hammered,the obvious lack of interest by the team today was frightening.

That's the worry,we'll get lessons from the top sides in this league,that's just reality,City stuffing Watford 8-0,and Leicester hammering 9 past Saints,shows we're not the only ones that'll happen too over the course of the season,but i really expected today to be a tight battle,and if there was to be a winner a goal either way,what i didn't anticipate was for us to be blown away by HT,and barely troubling their keeper.

Yes we have important players missing but our 1st choice central defence pairing played,as did our CM duo although you'd have struggled to note them,clearly Sheffield realised our full backs were the weak link and exploited this to the fullest.

Hopefully this is just a bad day at the office,and once first teamers return we'll get back to our usual tough to beat style,Tarks has to learn when to play and when to defend,the latter has to be the priority for now,clean sheets are what's required to get the ship back on an even keel.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:21 pm

When teams like Sheffield United,a newly promoted club have sussed out your weakest links and expose them for what they are,have after all this time Dyche and his tactics been sussed by everyone,we never mix it up,a weakness everyone has sussed,we made them look like world beaters today in that first half

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:24 pm

Steve1956 wrote:When teams like Sheffield United,a newly promoted club have sussed out your weakest links and expose them for what they are,have after all this time Dyche and his tactics have been sussed by everyone,we never mix it up,a weakness everyone has sussed,we made them look like world beaters today in that first half

I agree. SD has done very well for us, but he very rarely shows that he can react to what the other manager is doing. The best managers suss out that the opposing manager has sussed you out, or thinks he has, and so you throw a cog in the works with changing something. He doesn't seem to be able to do that. Very few times do you see SD bamboozle the opposing manager by switching something. It's because the opposing manager just hasn't yet worked out what our Plan A is.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:24 pm

They are not exactly mugs and have surprised pretty much everyone this season. Mixing it up is one thing but not getting used to an opponent with an unusual set up and making basic errors is why we lost today.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:27 pm

We have just one way of playing...our luck is beginning to run out.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:30 pm

Steve1956 wrote:We have just one way of playing...our luck is beginning to run out.

It's a good way of playing when we have the right players, because it's direct. The problems appear when we have the likes of JR instead of Wood. That's a MASSIVE difference with the way we play.

It comes down to a very poor scouting team I think. We overpay because of that.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:09 pm

Another game next week. That's all there is to say.