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Joe Hart

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:45 pm

Said it last week. Time to get him back in. And said in summer. Shouldnt have let Heaton, our most important player last season and captain leave.
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by KRBFC » Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:55 pm

Year on year and signings that don’t improve what we have. Taylor was arguably our best player last year now he’s on the bench, why? It was obvious we needed a right back, but we didn’t buy one, why? The football isn’t becoming any better either, we’re so dull to watch.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:57 pm

Losing Heaton, not even considering talent was a ludicrous decision.

Zero leadership at that back and less ability.

At least we got 8m in the bank mind.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by superdimitri » Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:57 pm

I'm not convinced Joe Hart is the answer but certainly agree with Heaton.

It wouldn't be so bad if we had a proper Captain to take over from him.

He'd be bollocking our back 4 if we went 1 down, let alone 3.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:00 pm

superdimitri wrote:I'm not convinced Joe Hart is the answer but certainly agree with Heaton.

It wouldn't be so bad if we had a proper Captain to take over from him.

He'd be bollocking our back 4 if we went 1 down, let alone 3.
Heaton was the answer to a question that didnt need asking.

Cant believe we let him go. The shirt was his.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by KRBFC » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:00 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Losing Heaton, not even considering talent was a ludicrous decision.

Zero leadership at that back and less ability.

At least we got 8m in the bank mind.
Makes it even more ludicrous when you consider the team we sold him to, up there with replacing Vokes with Crouch when deep in trouble. At that moment, I felt we waved the white flag and showed our intention, same situation as when Laws was hired.
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:01 pm

Pope no fault for any goal
Wood is missed badly
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Tribesmen » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:02 pm

Pope #1

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by claretdj » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:03 pm

DAVETHEVICAR wrote:Pope no fault for any goal
Wood is missed badly


1st goal he didn't even bother to dive..
3rd goal you have got to be saving that, wasnt even a hard shot..
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by joey13 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:04 pm

Pope very poor for 3rd

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:06 pm

What position did we finish two seasons ago when Pope played 35/38 games?

How can it be down to Heaton not playing when we finished bloody 7th.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:07 pm

I dread to imagine what reaction would be here and in the stands had Hart let any of those goals in.

I dread to imagine what reaction would be here and in the stands had Hart let 9 goals in 2.5 games.

I dread to imagine what reaction would be here and in the stands had Hart let 18 in 10.5 games.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by MRG » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:07 pm

FactualFrank wrote:What position did we finish two seasons ago when Pope played 35/38 games?

How can it be down to Heaton not playing when we finished bloody 7th.
It took 11 posts, more than usual!

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by KRBFC » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:08 pm

FactualFrank wrote:What position did we finish two seasons ago when Pope played 35/38 games?

How can it be down to Heaton not playing when we finished bloody 7th.
2 years ago? Pope was a fine keeper for us, better than Heaton 2 years ago.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Imploding Turtle » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:08 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:I dread to imagine what reaction would be here and in the stands had Hart let any of those goals in.

I dread to imagine what reaction would be here and in the stands had Hart let 9 goals in 2.5 games.

I dread to imagine what reaction would be here and in the stands had Hart let 18 in 10.5 games.

Maybe if Joe Hart was pushing Pope harder for the #1 spot then Pope would be playing better and wouldn't have conceded so many goals? See, it's still really Hart's fault when you think about it.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by tim_noone » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:09 pm

At least the Geordies are winning

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:09 pm

FactualFrank wrote:What position did we finish two seasons ago when Pope played 35/38 games?

How can it be down to Heaton not playing when we finished bloody 7th.
Said at the time. It was his first and only close to full season at any level.

Could have been quality. Could have been luck. But plenty have had one good season.

He since had a very bad injury and a season out.

Hes unproven.

Even Michu and Amir Zaki had one good premier league season.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:09 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Maybe if Joe Hart was pushing Pope harder for the #1 spot then Pope would be playing better and wouldn't have conceded so many goals? See, it's still really Hart's fault when you think about it.
:lol:

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:13 pm

FactualFrank wrote:What position did we finish two seasons ago when Pope played 35/38 games?

How can it be down to Heaton not playing when we finished bloody 7th.
The whole team is failing right now, Frank.
I bet they don't even bother to look at the team sheet.
Losing Tom Heaton was more than just losing a goalkeeper.
Nick Pope could take a season to re-establish his form of two years ago.
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:29 pm

Some of you lot are so fickle.

It was only recently that people on here were saying it was a disgrace that Pope wasn't first choice for England, and now he needs replacing?
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:32 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Some of you lot are so fickle.

It was only recently that people on here were saying it was a disgrace that Pope wasn't first choice for England, and now he needs replacing?
Some people.
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:35 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Some people.
What are you Basing this on?

Is it last season, when our form picked up dramatically after Hart was dropped? :?

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:38 pm

fidelcastro wrote:What are you Basing this on?

Is it last season, when our form picked up dramatically after Hart was dropped? :?
No it picked up dramatically when we installed our captain and leader back in. Who we should never have let go.

But Nick Pope has never had a full season at any level. So is far from this proven, experienced keeper everyone thought was replacing Heaton.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:41 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:No it picked up dramatically when we installed our captain and leader back in. Who we should never have let go.

But Nick Pope has never had a full season at any level. So is far from this proven, experienced keeper everyone thought was replacing Heaton.
Heaton wanted to go! What were we supposed to do?

Pope did replace Heaton, two seasons ago, after the latter's shoulder injury, and we finished seventh.

How many have you had today? :P
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:42 pm

I'd say Pope could have done better with the 3rd, but to try to blame him for the other two is ridiculous

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:42 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Heaton wanted to go! What were we supposed to do?

Pope did replace Heaton, two seasons ago, after the latter's shoulder injury, and we finished seventh.

How many have you had today? :P
He doesn't understand sense when sober, never mind when he's three sheets to the wind.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:43 pm

FactualFrank wrote:He doesn't understand sense when sober, never mind when he's three sheets to the wind.
I blame the parents.

;)

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:45 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Heaton wanted to go! What were we supposed to do?

Pope did replace Heaton, two seasons ago, after the latter's shoulder injury, and we finished seventh.

How many have you had today? :P
No he didnt. He wanted to be number 1

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:46 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:No he didnt. He wanted to be number 1
And he was.

Have you forgotten?

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Post by Grumps » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:50 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Said it last week. Time to get him back in. And said in summer. Shouldnt have let Heaton, our most important player last season and captain leave.
Heaton wanted to leave once he was told pope would start the season.

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Post by Hibsclaret » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:05 pm

If Joe Hart is the answer.....you can stick the question.....
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Post by fidelcastro » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:07 pm

Grumps wrote:Heaton wanted to leave once he was told pope would start the season.
And you know this for a fact?

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Post by Grumps » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:18 pm

fidelcastro wrote:And you know this for a fact?
Unless his dad's wrong

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:19 pm

Grumps wrote:Unless his dad's wrong
Whose dad?

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:19 pm

Grumps wrote:Unless his dad's wrong
Or Heaton himself.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:23 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:I dread to imagine what reaction would be here and in the stands had Hart let any of those goals in.

I dread to imagine what reaction would be here and in the stands had Hart let 9 goals in 2.5 games.

I dread to imagine what reaction would be here and in the stands had Hart let 18 in 10.5 games.
Right behind you mate! The reaction to JH was unreal when in truth he didn’t do much wrong.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:23 pm

fidelcastro wrote:And you know this for a fact?

Heaton told me to my face

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:25 pm

Hart, Joe Allen and Yaya Toure all in next week to save our season.

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Post by Croydon Claret » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:37 pm

Been a few goals now where Pope has been rooted and not even attempted a save. Bit concerning

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by bobinho » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:53 pm

Heaton wanted to leave. Player wants to go, he goes and that’s that.

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:54 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Said it last week. Time to get him back in. And said in summer. Shouldnt have let Heaton, our most important player last season and captain leave.
My God ......talk about an overreaction!............Hart is Crapola.

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Post by LoveCurryPies » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:55 pm

Pope has to remain no 1. Stop blaming the goalie for poor defending.

Heaton left to further his career....get over it.

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:12 pm

I think we need to look at the possibility of Peacock-Farrell replacing Hart on the bench.
It’s clear his lovely smile, and it is a lovely smile, is putting our keeper and defenders off.
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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:19 pm

Croydon Claret wrote:Been a few goals now where Pope has been rooted and not even attempted a save. Bit concerning
But he comes for crosses. Honest.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:19 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:Pope has to remain no 1. Stop blaming the goalie for poor defending.
Isnt that what we did with Hart?
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by paulatky » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:11 pm

Pope does come off his line whereas Hart doesnt.
Hope Pope’s confidence isnt shot by last 2 games.
Noticeable he didnt come over to fans at the end and went straight down the tunnel

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:18 pm

Is this thread still going?

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Top Claret » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:32 pm

Our defence was dreadful and left Pope totally exposed. We need to look at replacing both full backs before our goal keeper.
Not to forget Barnes up front who missed two sitters and Rodriguez who contributed nothing

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:49 pm

Top Claret wrote:Our defence was dreadful and left Pope totally exposed. We need to look at replacing both full backs before our goal keeper.
Not to forget Barnes up front who missed two sitters and Rodriguez who contributed nothing
Well that’s all well and good but none of our reserve full backs or reserve strikers have played for England so it doesn’t matter.

There’s only two things that turn on the OP. England caps and pretending he’s seen someone’s car.

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