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Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:50 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
0 shots on target. That is pathetic.

Worryingly can think of multiple games just last season that this happened. Istanbul, Wolves and Man City at least from memory.

That is the worse stat of all from today.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:51 pm
by KefkaClaret
At least Taylor will start now, he should have been starting since Everton.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:52 pm
by tim_noone
We are superior.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:53 pm
by Rodneyyouplonker
Just a bad day at the office, give it a rest ffs.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:53 pm
by ClaretAndJew
A bad day at the office, for the last 3 weeks.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:54 pm
by Spijed
ClaretAndJew wrote:A bad day at the office, for the last 3 weeks.
We didn't deserve to lose against Leicester

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:55 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Spijed wrote:We didn't deserve to lose against Leicester
But it wasnt a good day was it.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:55 pm
by Funkydrummer
There are bad days, and there are bad days to be fair.

That was a bad day.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:55 pm
by KRBFC
I’ll be the one to say it and I don’t care where he was born, Rodriguez is ****.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:56 pm
by ClaretAndJew
Spijed wrote:We didn't deserve to lose against Leicester
Quite, but we have to be responsible for ourselves, regardless of refereeing decisions.

Chelsea/Sheffield game absolutely abysmal.

Fortunately Villa didn't win and Southampton lost again.

We need to do something quickly.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:56 pm
by Lord Beamish
Dire performance away, again. No get-out-of-jail-free card, this time. We’re in a relegation battle; make no mistake about that.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:57 pm
by MACCA
But more importantly, what were our expected goals for and against?

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:57 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
KRBFC wrote:I’ll be the one to say it and I don’t care where he was born, Rodriguez is ****.
He was abysmal last week.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:57 pm
by Right_winger
It’s our pathetic hoofball and lack of options both in the squad and tactically which are hurting us.

At some point we are going to have to improve the squad and expand our style of play?

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:58 pm
by Funkydrummer
KRBFC wrote:I’ll be the one to say it and I don’t care where he was born, Rodriguez is ****.
I wasn't sure that he was playing, but to be fair, he wasn't given much to work with, was he ?

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:58 pm
by jojomk1
Don't panic

We finished 7th two years ago

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:00 pm
by Quickenthetempo
It's fine Dyche will hand his resignation in like any reasonable chap.

His tactics s are terrible

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:00 pm
by KRBFC
The problem is all these players Dyche brings in don’t improve us at all, Brady, Rodriguez, Drinkwater, Vydra, Gibson, Hart, Pieters, Bardsley, Wells. A colossal waste of money combined, expensive squad fillers. 15 million quid on a 4th choice central defender and 13 million quid on a 5th choice striker? Why? Why wasn’t that money invested in 1 or 2 players to slot straight into the first 11. Vydra and Gibson are fine players but they were never gonna feature here in a 442 and Dyche doesn’t strike me as a 352 type.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:01 pm
by SGr
Don’t let anyone fool you with “bad day at the office” talk. This had been coming sadly.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:01 pm
by Guller Bull
jojomk1 wrote:Don't panic

We finished 7th two years ago
Not sure what you are saying?

What do you want to happen?

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:03 pm
by Hibsclaret
Hardly inexcusable.

The previous games this season we have been nowhere near as bad as today. We miss Wood badly but today was all about not having a clue how to deal with their formation more than anything else. Also, one day we might get a decision....should have had 2 definite pens and 1 I’ve seen given....

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:03 pm
by KRBFC
Like **** the 15 million quid on a 4th choice central defender, bring in a Gary Cahill free signing (I know we signed Gibson the year prior, so John Terry on a free) and invest 10 million into a first choice right back.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:05 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
KRBFC wrote:Like **** the 15 million quid on a 4th choice central defender, bring in a Gary Cahill free signing (I know we signed Gibson the year prior, so John Terry on a free) and invest 10 million into a first choice right back.
Said the same myself. Gibsons an expensive insurance policy.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:05 pm
by SGr
Right_winger wrote:It’s our pathetic hoofball and lack of options both in the squad and tactically which are hurting us.

At some point we are going to have to improve the squad and expand our style of play?
The best football we’ve played under Dyche was in the first half of 2017/18. We weren’t playing 4-4-2 then, and we weren’t launching it at every opportunity.

It isn’t just tactics that have made us regress back to being reliant on one single system and way of playing, its recruitment for me. We’ve had ample opportunity to sign more creative players, and we’ve just not done it.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:06 pm
by blake's wand
Last week I felt we were unlucky at times - today we were awful.

Our game management is beyond bad, we must be one of the worst teams for conceding around half time. Tarks and Mee have lost the ability to pass 10 yards.

Need to stop the rot

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:07 pm
by FactualFrank
Rodneyyouplonker wrote:Just a bad day at the office, give it a rest ffs.
Again.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:07 pm
by KRBFC
cricketfieldclarets wrote:Said the same myself. Gibsons an expensive insurance policy.
John Terry on a free transfer and 10million on a right back, then we don’t have to watch Gibson sat in the stand and Lowton starting.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:11 pm
by AlargeClaret
We’ve been moderate at the very best this season and bloody awful at times like today .We desperately miss a high end driving midfielder and hopefully DD not too far off. Taylor back is a big plus too, while Wood is no wonderkid ,it’s never easy missing your in form striker . Good chance to redeem next week home against the hammers . It’s a vastly open prem this year and no reason whatsoever SD won’t quickly turn this around

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:12 pm
by fidelcastro
Some weapons grade belmtardery and massive over reactions from the usual suspects.

What a surprise!

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:13 pm
by ClaretAndJew
fidelcastro wrote:Some weapons grade belmtardery and massive over reactions from the usual suspects.

What a surprise!
You enjoy the game pal?

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:14 pm
by The Enclosure
After the Chelsea match I think most supporters expected both full backs to.be dropped/ rested..Is Sean that stubborn or does he see things the rest of us cant.?

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:15 pm
by randomclaret2
fidelcastro wrote:Some weapons grade belmtardery and massive over reactions from the usual suspects.

What a surprise!
Same over reaction to anyone who dares to criticise

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:15 pm
by fidelcastro
ClaretAndJew wrote:You enjoy the game pal?
No.

Next silly question.

:roll:

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:17 pm
by THEWELLERNUT70
Its interesting we have capitulated in two games since Cork and Westwood have been paired again in midfield

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:17 pm
by ClaretAndJew
7 goals conceded in two games. Good times.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:26 pm
by buzzclarets79
This will continue to happen until we actually sign some players that are capable of flair, creativity and forward thinking.
The team is full of workhorse type players that simply just put in a shift, results like today happen when they don’t, and hoof it forward in hope of “something” happening.
Get the ball on the bloody floor and play football, even more so when your target man isn’t playing.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:28 pm
by FactualFrank
buzzclarets79 wrote:This will continue to happen until we actually sign some players that are capable of flair, creativity and forward thinking.
The team is full of workhorse type players that simply just put in a shift, results like today happen when they don’t, and hoof it forward in hope of “something” happening.
Get the ball on the bloody floor and play football, even more so when your target man isn’t playing.
I agree. We lack far too much technical ability. Other clubs such as Sheffield United can find them, so there's no excuse to put it down to wages/fees. We just cannot spot them as well as any other side in the Premier League, and a lot of Championship sides. That's worrying.

If we do find someone decent, we have to pay an awful lot for them. We're overpaying due to our lack of scouting ability.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:29 pm
by tarkys_ears
Spijed wrote:We didn't deserve to lose against Leicester
No but we did anyway.

We lose when we deserve it, we lose when we don't.

Were going down

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:36 pm
by Darnhill Claret
Next week, changes are Taylor in, Cork to the bench, replaced by Hendrick, who is replaced by Brady. If Wood is fit he returns alongside Barnes who should be match fit now.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:39 pm
by jedi_master
We were awful today.

I had to endure this in the home end and it was embarrassing to hear the opinions of the Blades fans on us, and I didn’t blame them at all for what I heard.

However, a little bit of perspective, we were absolutely fine against Chelsea. They were clinical, we were not. The performance level bar two terrible errors in that game was not a cause for concern. Leicester away, not a great performance but SHOULD have had a point but for a terrible decision.

I won’t be jumping on board the neggy bus yet. Let’s see how we do next Saturday.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:49 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
No arguments woeful today but up against a team on a similar run next week. Two previous games performance wise were good so no need for the usual mass panic.

No surprise to see the usual posters back in amongst it after a convincing defeat really makes their sad little weekend complete.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:53 pm
by ClaretTony
cricketfieldclarets wrote:0 shots on target. That is pathetic.
I saw one on target from Tarkowski

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:55 pm
by Dyched
Typical Burnley against a well organised (bottom end) team.

Thank **** there ain’t many of them.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:56 pm
by ClaretTony
Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:No surprise to see the usual posters back in amongst it after a convincing defeat really makes their sad little weekend complete.
That’s absolutely spot on.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:56 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
Dyched wrote:Typical Burnley against a well organised (bottom end) team.

Thank **** there ain’t many of them.
Would say most untypical.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:57 pm
by BOYSIE31
Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:No arguments woeful today but up against a team on a similar run next week. Two previous games performance wise were good so no need for the usual mass panic.

No surprise to see the usual posters back in amongst it after a convincing defeat really makes their sad little weekend complete.

Brilliant

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:59 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
BOYSIE31 wrote:Brilliant
And another.......

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:18 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
ClaretAndJew wrote:7 goals conceded in two games. Good times.
Meh, Saints conceded more than they in one home game.

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:23 pm
by bfcjg
A newly promoted team playing football. It is possible Sean !!!

Re: Inexcusable

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:25 pm
by SkiptonClaret
buzzclarets79 wrote:This will continue to happen until we actually sign some players that are capable of flair, creativity and forward thinking.
The team is full of workhorse type players that simply just put in a shift, results like today happen when they don’t, and hoof it forward in hope of “something” happening.
Get the ball on the bloody floor and play football, even more so when your target man isn’t playing.
No chance under Dyche, surely people realise and presumably are accepting of this after seven years ?
For me, Pieters is the embodiment of all things Dyche. Old(ish), experienced, workhorse, limited meat and two veg player. Simply, what other PL manager would have gone anywhere near him ?