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Post match comments?

Post by Ilkley claret » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:16 pm

Can’t find any, are they still locked in the dressing room?

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Post by bfcjg » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:22 pm

I'll start.
Spineless.

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Post by Long Time Lurker » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:34 pm

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Tactics didn't play a part in the poor performance, my arse.

Although I agree that the commentators were ide of the mark painting a picture of doom and gloom on the back of three straight losses. The last one was only down to a couple of sloppy mistakes.

Bad day at the office today all round, including the gaffer and the analysts. Nobody escapes blame for that performance and result.

Despite recent results we still look in good shape though. Nothing to be greatly worried about at the moment.

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Post by MACCA » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:27 pm

Well said Sean, I'd be amazed if they wasnt changes next week.

As angry and outspoken I've seen him without throwing anyone under the bus.

I'm glad our manager sees that sort of performance is unacceptable, as some fans struggle with seeing what's infront of them

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Post by boatshed bill » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:31 pm

MACCA wrote:Well said Sean, I'd be amazed if they wasnt changes next week.

As angry and outspoken I've seen him without throwing anyone under the bus.

I'm glad our manager sees that sort of performance is unacceptable, as some fans struggle with seeing what's infront of them
And yet he takes none of the blame for being done over tactically?
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Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:34 pm

Dyche talking out of his arse again eh

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Post by fidelcastro » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:35 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:Dyche talking out of his arse again eh
How so?

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Post by tim_noone » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:37 pm

As always an Honest account of events....and genuine praise for the opposition. Unlike the foreign Legion.

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Post by Swizzlestick » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:40 pm

tim_noone wrote:As always an Honest account of events....and genuine praise for the opposition. Unlike the foreign Legion.
I don’t think there’s been a manager more complimentary of us than Nuno at Wolves so can we drop the Rule Britannia shite. Compare and contrast with Dean Smith’s comments after the Villa game.
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Post by tim_noone » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:47 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:I don’t think there’s been a manager more complimentary of us than Nuno at Wolves so can we drop the Rule Britannia shite. Compare and contrast with Dean Smith’s comments after the Villa game.
Sorry...klopp n Pep pretty much on a regular basis..not specifically aimed at us. I'm sure they will be pretty smug tonight....as they both Won

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Post by MACCA » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:17 pm

boatshed bill wrote:And yet he takes none of the blame for being done over tactically?
We have the same approach, with the same instructions,
and play the same tactics every week regardless off opposition.

Why would he blame himself?

He is yet to out think or deliver a tactical masterclass to any opposition manager in this league.

That's not in his skillset

Not a dig, just the way he works, which has been very successful. A stick to what you know and works for you type scenario .

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Post by Funkydrummer » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:20 pm

Interestingly he has mentioned tactics - why, who mentioned them to him ?

There was no need to mention them.

That, to me, is an admittance that he failed to get the tactics right.
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Re: Post match comments?

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:25 pm

Premier League managers are forever talking about how they got the tactics wrong in post match interviews when they get beat.

I wish that they would all shut up about it.

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Post by Hibsclaret » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:32 pm

MACCA wrote:We have the same approach, with the same instructions,
and play the same tactics every week regardless off opposition.

Why would he blame himself?

He is yet to out think or deliver a tactical masterclass to any opposition manager in this league.

That's not in his skillset

Not a dig, just the way he works, which has been very successful. A stick to what you know and works for you type scenario .
You speak some absolute bs at times but to summarise:

He is yet to outthink any opposition in this league...... Klopp first season back 2-0, Conte 3 -2, Pochettino 2 - 1 last season, Nuno, Hassenhuttl, Silva this season, Pellegrino last season etc.etc.

He’s been very successful by not tactically beating all of the above.....ok then....

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Post by gawthorpe_view » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:40 pm

One thing he said was we played today like we did in the first half of last season.
Difficult to argue really.

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Post by FactualFrank » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:41 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:One thing he said was we played today like we did in the first half of last season.
Difficult to argue really.
Which is relegation. But he realises it, so it could be worse.

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Post by MACCA » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:42 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:You speak some absolute bs at times but to summarise:

He is yet to outthink any opposition in this league...... Klopp first season back 2-0, Conte 3 -2, Pochettino 2 - 1 last season, Nuno, Hassenhuttl, Silva this season, Pellegrino last season etc.etc.

He’s been very successful by not tactically beating all of the above.....ok then....

Ok I'll play, and what exactly did he change from the game before or do differently to the norm that tactically outwitted the opposition?

Oh yeah nothing different.
It's the same thing, not saying it CANT be successful, just you never come off thinking "ahh what a master stroke switching them players", or " wow bringing him in paid dividends"

It's the same approach week after week, theres never a rotation in selection or change in formation to exploit the opposition.
If you've seen that then fair enough, but I'm yet to

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Post by MACCA » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:43 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Which is relegation. But he realises it, so it could be worse.
That's the main thing.
Glad he has seen it, as theres too many who can't see past their nose

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Post by Hibsclaret » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:47 pm

MACCA wrote:Ok I'll play, and what exactly did he change from the game before or do differently to the norm that tactically outwitted the opposition?

Oh yeah nothing different.
It's the same thing, not saying it CANT be successful, just you never come off thinking "ahh what a master stroke switching them players", or " wow bringing him in paid dividends"

It's the same approach week after week, theres never a rotation in selection or change in formation to exploit the opposition.
If you've seen that then fair enough, but I'm yet to
He’s been such a failure sending out the same team with the same tactics every week for 7 years. How on earth does he do it. Must be magic or an illusion as you just can’t see what is in front or your eyes.....keeping Burnley Fc competitive in the biggest league in the world financially and yet is not able to change a game or tactically outwit other managers. You speak some utter dross...

Who would you rather have for his tactical nouse? Perhaps we could bring Laws or Coyle back....
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Post by MACCA » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:56 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:He’s been such a failure sending out the same team with the same tactics every week for 7 years. How on earth does he do it. Must be magic or an illusion as you just can’t see what is in front or your eyes.....keeping Burnley Fc competitive in the biggest league in the world financially and yet is not able to change a game or tactically outwit other managers. You speak some utter dross...

Who would you rather have for his tactical nouse? Perhaps we could bring Laws or Coyle back....
I'll wait for you to answer my first question...

How many times has SD chopped or changed the personnel or formation to exploit the opposition?
How many times has he genuinely shocked you with his formation, selection or approach?

Genuine question.

Because for me , it's never.

And again I'll stress, it's been very successful, but whst people say is his biggest strength , is also his biggest weakness.

We are a reactive side not a proactive side.

The reason we've only ever come from behind once to win.
We only know 1 way, and that's a fact

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Re: Post match comments?

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:00 pm

Tactics were not the reason we lost today.

The reason we lost today is that pretty much the entire side had a first half to forget
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Post by ksrclaret » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:03 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Tactics were not the reason we lost today.

The reason we lost today is that pretty much the entire side had a first half to forget
Arguably, because the tactics were wrong.

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:06 pm

i thought he gave a decent explanation, it was fair, and he rightfully praised sheff utd.
that was probably a shock for him as well as the supporters.
the fault was entirely down to our players ineptitude and switching off in a catastrophic manner.

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Post by Hibsclaret » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:15 pm

MACCA wrote:I'll wait for you to answer my first question...

How many times has SD chopped or changed the personnel or formation to exploit the opposition?
How many times has he genuinely shocked you with his formation, selection or approach?

Genuine question.

Because for me , it's never.

And again I'll stress, it's been very successful, but whst people say is his biggest strength , is also his biggest weakness.

We are a reactive side not a proactive side.

The reason we've only ever come from behind once to win.
We only know 1 way, and that's a fact
Don’t really need to be shocked by anything or see anyone dropped or changed whilst we remain competitive in the premier league.

Bad day at the office, get over it....against a team with no away defeats all season that beat Arsenal the other week. They are a good team and we had an off day, simple as that

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:17 pm

ksrclaret wrote:Arguably, because the tactics were wrong.

A circle has no beginning
You mark, track, tackle, pass and show the lack of fight that we did today, you lose whatever the tactics.

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Post by ksrclaret » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:23 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:You mark, track, tackle, pass and show the lack of fight that we did today, you lose whatever the tactics.
If you set up knowing you'll be outnumbered in every area you'll find it very hard to mark, track, tackle, pass and show lots of fight

I'm not excusing the players, they were very poor, but their 3-5-2 vs a bog standard 4-4-2 sounded like trouble, and it surely was

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Post by SGr » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:28 pm

We really miss Wood, but today showed me why once again, it’s almost all on Dwight McNeil in the attacking sense.

Like Newcastle A last season, Dwight was neutralised all game, couldn’t get into it, and thus we created basically nothing. We’re far too reliant on the kid in the creative sense, obviously we should have another outlet, either at #10 or on the other side, but we have chosen yet again to neglect this issue.

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Post by Stayingup » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:30 pm

Never mind tactics it was a listless performance. He obviously didn't rev them up enough. He needs to make changes. He looked like he had enough of things to me. Maybe he needs a new challenge.

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Post by SGr » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:33 pm

I know everyone seems shocked about how bad we were but let’s be honest, Burnley produce this sort of performance, against this sort of opposition AT LEAST once or twice a season. Difference is we don’t always get punished as swiftly as we did today.

Swansea 16/17, Palace last two seasons, Wolves last season. They were smaller margins of victory but equally appalling displays. Gaps between the lines easily exploited, zero pressure on the ball, opponent creating chances at will.

This is something Dyche has sadly not been able to iron out of his campaigns: average sides (Wolves aside) absolutely dominating us from minute one on their own turf.

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Post by tiger76 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:35 pm

I'll judge Sean and the players by how they respond in the West Ham game,talk is cheap it's action on the pitch we need to answer the critics.

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Post by jurek » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:07 am

It might be the case that Dyche isn't very tactically astute
or can rarely change the way we set up and play but then he might
not have players on the bench that can do that anyway.

I'm sure he is aware we lack pace and players with the ability to do things
differently and/or be more direct but then most players we've
managed to bring in in over the last few years seem to be 'like for like'
type of players.

Defensively we've been pretty poor over the last two games with Tarks, Mee
and Pieters (not to mention Lawton) not looking too good hence we've conceded 7 goals.

However, if survival at this level is success (which it is) then we'll need to
up our game again especially over the next three games which, if we don't do
reasonably well in (4/5 pts minimum ) could see us in, or very close to the relegation zone.

I think Dyche will make a few changes for next week and the two games after
and I think he'll up the anti on bringing in one or two more during January.

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:52 am

jurek wrote:It might be the case that Dyche isn't very tactically astute
or can rarely change the way we set up and play but then he might
not have players on the bench that can do that anyway.

I'm sure he is aware we lack pace and players with the ability to do things
differently and/or be more direct but then most players we've
managed to bring in in over the last few years seem to be 'like for like'
type of players.

Defensively we've been pretty poor over the last two games with Tarks, Mee
and Pieters (not to mention Lawton) not looking too good hence we've conceded 7 goals.

However, if survival at this level is success (which it is) then we'll need to
up our game again especially over the next three games which, if we don't do
reasonably well in (4/5 pts minimum ) could see us in, or very close to the relegation zone.

I think Dyche will make a few changes for next week and the two games after
and I think he'll up the anti on bringing in one or two more during January.

with several seasons under his belt at this level, I think miracle worker is more appropriate.
In his time, we have seen off every club in the division. saturday was about several players falling way short of what is expected. nowt to do with managerial know how,

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Post by TVC15 » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:42 am

MACCA wrote:I'll wait for you to answer my first question...

How many times has SD chopped or changed the personnel or formation to exploit the opposition?
How many times has he genuinely shocked you with his formation, selection or approach?

Genuine question.

Because for me , it's never.

And again I'll stress, it's been very successful, but whst people say is his biggest strength , is also his biggest weakness.

We are a reactive side not a proactive side.

The reason we've only ever come from behind once to win.
We only know 1 way, and that's a fact
Are you seriously saying we have only come from behind once to win ?
Nobody is happy with todays shambles but there’s a difference between being unhappy and just making stuff up...

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:55 am

Ilkley claret wrote:Can’t find any, are they still locked in the dressing room?
Dyche said we were nowhere near, he was correct

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Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:04 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:with several seasons under his belt at this level, I think miracle worker is more appropriate.
In his time, we have seen off every club in the division. saturday was about several players falling way short of what is expected. nowt to do with managerial know how,
I'm sorry, that's just absolute bobbins. We've had all week (season) to look at video and know that Lowton and Pieters are going to get absolutely overloaded because they send their wide men AND centre halves down the flanks. So we just blame Lowton and Pieters? That's your idea? Both of them were absolutely gash, but this thing about the manager and staff being untouchable simply has to come to an end. The three of them were on the touchline having a conflab about what to do after 15 minutes like it had never occurred to them!
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Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:25 am

fidelcastro wrote:How so?
“It was nothing to do with tactics”

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Re: Post match comments?

Post by MACCA » Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:06 am

TVC15 wrote:Are you seriously saying we have only come from behind once to win ?
Nobody is happy with todays shambles but there’s a difference between being unhappy and just making stuff up...
I think that is the stat yes, although it was sky who produced the stat, and unlike me, they may not know you're always right.
Let me know the one other than Everon a seaso or 2 ago and I'll opts it, and also let sky know.

They're usually pretty good, although when game arent live and they use the back up commentators, their knowledge isnt always the best.

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Re: Post match comments?

Post by MACCA » Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:08 am

Wile E Coyote wrote: In his time, we have seen off every club in the division.
Is that true? I'd be amazed if it was, I rarely miss a game and cant ever remember beating Arsenal for a start.

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Post by TVC15 » Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:15 am

MACCA wrote:I think that is the stat yes, although it was sky who produced the stat, and unlike me, they may not know you're always right.
Let me know the one other than Everon a seaso or 2 ago and I'll opts it, and also let sky know.

They're usually pretty good, although when game arent live and they use the back up commentators, their knowledge isnt always the best.
I don’t have to look back on any stats to know that Fulham scored first on the turf with that great goal from Schurle and we won and Bournemouth went in the lead when we won away - that’s only last season so I’d be amazed if there wasn’t more in 7 years.
I’m not always right - far from it. But your post was just full of stuff that in my view was wrong and then you end it with what you think is a fact to prove your point. When Dyche played 4-5-1 for a few months that was a surprise to many and it worked very well.

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Re: Post match comments?

Post by MACCA » Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:28 am

TVC15 wrote:I don’t have to look back on any stats to know that Fulham scored first on the turf with that great goal from Schurle and we won and Bournemouth went in the lead when we won away - that’s only last season so I’d be amazed if there wasn’t more in 7 years.
I’m not always right - far from it. But your post was just full of stuff that in my view was wrong and then you end it with what you think is a fact to prove your point. When Dyche played 4-5-1 for a few months that was a surprise to many and it worked very well.
You're right I also remember those games.

They mentioned Everton, and I recall at the time Sean making a point about it being the first time. That's possibly stuck in my head as those games were after.

I liked 451, thought we had brought in the players to possibly go back to a version of that with JRod and Vydra available.
But SD knows best and whilst we are ahead of the curve we are on course.
You dont bad off what's served you well after a couple of bad days at the office.

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Post by Hibsclaret » Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:28 am

Spot on TV.

Let’s not forget that we have outplayed Arsenal for 45 minutes this season, Wolves for a full game etc etc. The tactics in those games were spot on. We also created better chances than Chelsea last week. The thing that has cost us this season are individual errors until yesterday when basically everything was wrong. We were definitely outsmarted tactically yesterday but it is the first time this season it has happened...and none of the team turned up too.

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Post by jrgbfc » Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:32 am

Hibsclaret wrote:Spot on TV.

Let’s not forget that we have outplayed Arsenal for 45 minutes this season, Wolves for a full game etc etc. The tactics in those games were spot on. We also created better chances than Chelsea last week. The thing that has cost us this season are individual errors until yesterday when basically everything was wrong. We were definitely outsmarted tactically yesterday but it is the first time this season it has happened...and none of the team turned up too.
To suggest we outplayed Arsenal for 45 minutes is pushing it a bit.

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Re: Post match comments?

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:01 am

As above we got beat in a football match as half of our team were nowhere near the required standard skill wise or effort wise. You move on. Not sure how it links to Dyche’s tactics over the past 7 years??

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Re: Post match comments?

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:22 am

ksrclaret wrote:If you set up knowing you'll be outnumbered in every area you'll find it very hard to mark, track, tackle, pass and show lots of fight

I'm not excusing the players, they were very poor, but their 3-5-2 vs a bog standard 4-4-2 sounded like trouble, and it surely was
Its impossible to be outnumbered everywhere on a football pitch Krs!

If we'd been at our usual standard,we'd have coped.

We weren't, and we didn't.

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Re: Post match comments?

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:23 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Tactics were not the reason we lost today.

The reason we lost today is that pretty much the entire side had a first half to forget
Tactics were to blame - everyone knows that shelf utd play with wing backs and 3 at the back and sometimes their centre half appears as a winger - we should have put 5 across the middle with one up top

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Re: Post match comments?

Post by agreenwood » Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:29 am

He was pretty blunt to be fair.

No idea how he’d got onto the topic of diving within the first 35 seconds of his Clarets Player post-match interview though.
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Re: Post match comments?

Post by Dodobdobodobo » Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:29 am

Asking changes? Who have we got that will make a difference to today’s performance. Wood to come back, Bardsley for Lowton, Taylor for Peters. Where’s our attacking options. Please don’t say Lennon :)

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Post by Dodobdobodobo » Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:29 am

Dodobdobodobo wrote:Making changes? Who have we got that will make a difference to today’s performance. Wood to come back, Bardsley for Lowton, Taylor for Peters. Where’s our attacking options. Please don’t say Lennon :)

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Re: Post match comments?

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:31 am

BOYSIE31 wrote:Tactics were to blame - everyone knows that shelf utd play with wing backs and 3 at the back and sometimes their centre half appears as a winger - we should have put 5 across the middle with one up top
Crap

Only a complete imbecile would suggest that Dyche would not have told his players what to do about Sheff United tactics.

What actually happened is that Lowton and Pieters had terrible games, Hendrick and McNeil were a way away from their best and because they were bad on positioning, passing and basically just everything, Sheff Utd ran riot down both flanks.

All three goals were from Burnley mistakes, the 2nd and 3rd in particular being really, really basic

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Re: Post match comments?

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:37 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Its impossible to be outnumbered everywhere on a football pitch Krs!

If we'd been at our usual standard,we'd have coped.

We weren't, and we didn't.
Okay, they didn’t outnumber us everywhere, we still had more in defence vs their forwards, not that it helped.

However they always had more men than us in midfield, down the flanks and in their defence vs our forwards. But that wasn’t a surprise to us, even Jack Cork admitted he knew it was coming pre match, but everyone just let it happen.

We might have coped if we’d have been our usual standard of giving a toss, but that’s all we’d have done - coped.

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