Realistic transfer targets in January

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Re: Realistic transfer targets in January

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:51 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:I think you're being a bit extreme. Brentford's scouting network has been quite good for them, yes. But they are still a mid table Championship team. If they were unearthing all of these amazing players they should really be ripping it up. They're not.

Hey, but if it fits with your narrative then crack on.....
But how much better would things be having Brentford’s scouting network and being a mid table championship club?

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Re: Realistic transfer targets in January

Post by jurek » Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:43 pm

It's early days yet but rumours are already starting which is to be expected.

Much will depend on how we perform over the next four games and those in December.
Not too mention any potential injuries.

If we do badly and are close or in the bottom three then even if injury free
there will be pressure on Dyche to get a few players in.

And they will have to be the type/s of player who can make a reasonably quick impact
on the pitch and therefore be in the starting 11 to do so.

If we do reasonably well before January and have 20+ points on the board (and are relatively injury free)
then some of the pressure will be off. But even then it would be wise to get one or two in.
Whatever we do and whomever we bring in there will inevitably be some, if not considerable risk involved.

But we can't afford to spend say 20m+ on a couple of players (Gibson and Vydra current examples)
to see them on the bench most of the time.

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Re: Realistic transfer targets in January

Post by MACCA » Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:06 am

jurek wrote: But we can't afford to spend say 20m+ on a couple of players (Gibson and Vydra current examples)
to see them on the bench most of the time.
If it's an either or, then it will be sign no one then, as I don't think we will spend big bucks and a player walk into the team.

We regularly stress how difficult and inflated the January window is.
Maybe we are best served ( if we are safe ) to be the seller. Getting shut of Vydra and Gibson may see 20m coming in, and if we can get in a player short term loan/contract to see us through, could leave us in a better position come the summer to splash the cash on 2 or 3 top quality, 1st team ready players.

The last 2, 3 maybe even 4 windows have been very poor to average at best, I don't think we can afford 2 more similar to the last few.

I think both the gaffer and chairman also realise this.

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Re: Realistic transfer targets in January

Post by BOYSIE31 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:08 am

Jakubs Tash wrote:I think you're being a bit extreme. Brentford's scouting network has been quite good for them, yes. But they are still a mid table Championship team. If they were unearthing all of these amazing players they should really be ripping it up. They're not.

Hey, but if it fits with your narrative then crack on.....

The problem is they have to sell each year but if they could keep them all together you never know - but hey you crack on

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Re: Realistic transfer targets in January

Post by Hapag Lloyd » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:10 am

BOYSIE31 wrote:The problem is they have to sell each year but if they could keep them all together you never know - but hey you crack on
Why do they have to sell each year ?

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Re: Realistic transfer targets in January

Post by BOYSIE31 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:57 am

Hapag Lloyd wrote:Why do they have to sell each year ?

Because they are a selling club with gates of about 8000

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Re: Realistic transfer targets in January

Post by Chester Perry » Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:03 pm

Hapag Lloyd wrote:Why do they have to sell each year ?
They have enormous debt as well, north of £60m - at last posted resuls

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Re: Realistic transfer targets in January

Post by Hapag Lloyd » Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:06 pm

So they have financial restraints just as we do.
In Premier league terms we are a small club unable to compete financially with the majority of the rest of the league so we have to cut our cloth accordingly, as Brentford do in the Championship.

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Re: Realistic transfer targets in January

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:26 pm

Jarrod Bowen
Ollie Watkins
Eberechi Eze
Kalvin Phillips (although cant see Leeds selling unless the fee is massive)
Perhaps the young right back we were in for last time around can’t remember his name but we need an upgrade sharpish in that position

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Re: Realistic transfer targets in January

Post by BOYSIE31 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:41 pm

Hapag Lloyd wrote:So they have financial restraints just as we do.
In Premier league terms we are a small club unable to compete financially with the majority of the rest of the league so we have to cut our cloth accordingly, as Brentford do in the Championship.

Only about 100 million difference but yes i see your point

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Re: Realistic transfer targets in January

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:45 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Only about 100 million difference but yes i see your point

So you would agree we get it more right than they do then ?

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Re: Realistic transfer targets in January

Post by BOYSIE31 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:50 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:So you would agree we get it more right than they do then ?

For scouting ??? No

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Re: Realistic transfer targets in January

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:53 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:For scouting ??? No

:D

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Re: Realistic transfer targets in January

Post by Chester Perry » Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:18 pm

Hapag Lloyd wrote:So they have financial restraints just as we do.
In Premier league terms we are a small club unable to compete financially with the majority of the rest of the league so we have to cut our cloth accordingly, as Brentford do in the Championship.

No they are not the same as us - the owner has financed losses that have seen that debt grow (and not just on the new ground), even with all those player sales (they can afford to get it wrong and as a consequence, take more risks) - we do not finance (countenance) debt - many see the sales and think they are doing something right, some see that they cannot break even or challenge for promotion as they do not get enough decisions right (or buy too raw) - take your pick

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Re: Realistic transfer targets in January

Post by superdimitri » Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:57 am

Does anyone think we could manage signing Eric Dier if he continues to be out of favor at Tottenham? His wages should be a lot lower than Drinkwater and his contact is up 2021.

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Re: Realistic transfer targets in January

Post by pushpinpussy » Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:03 am

superdimitri wrote:Does anyone think we could manage signing Eric Dier if he continues to be out of favor at Tottenham? His wages should be a lot lower than Drinkwater and his contact is up 2021.
the clue is in the title REALISTIC. jesus wept

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Re: Realistic transfer targets in January

Post by superdimitri » Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:26 am

pushpinpussy wrote:the clue is in the title REALISTIC. jesus wept
So it's not realistic for us to sign Dier on loan like we did with Drinkwater, when he's on almost half his weekly wages. Yeah Jesus really did weep. Thanks for the kind and informative reply.

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Re: Realistic transfer targets in January

Post by jojomk1 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:42 am

superdimitri wrote:Does anyone think we could manage signing Eric Dier if he continues to be out of favor at Tottenham? His wages should be a lot lower than Drinkwater and his contact is up 2021.
Dier is quite simply dire this season

Poch stopped playing him and he looked way off the pace at West Ham on Sat (don't know if he played last night)

Jose tried to sign him when at Utd, so don't see him going anywhere (Wanyama more likely to be made available, or the young lad Skipp)

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Re: Realistic transfer targets in January

Post by Buxtonclaret » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:10 am

BaronGarcia wrote:From the Sun today .... I give up with today’s amazing journalism .....

“Burnley are heading the queue for Preston midfielder Ben Pearson with both Steven Defour and Jeff Hendrick out of contract at the end of the season.”
Didn't think they still wrapped fish & chips up in newspapers! :lol:

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Re: Realistic transfer targets in January

Post by superdimitri » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:29 am

jojomk1 wrote:Dier is quite simply dire this season

Poch stopped playing him and he looked way off the pace at West Ham on Sat (don't know if he played last night)

Jose tried to sign him when at Utd, so don't see him going anywhere (Wanyama more likely to be made available, or the young lad Skipp)
He's out of favor with other players knocking on the door. If his form doesn't return I don't think Mourinho will keep him. It's basically make or break for him at the moment.

Anyway, it was just a thought after I saw he was subbed off in their last game in favor of more attacking options.

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