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Gender neutral toilet

Post by Inchy » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:55 pm

Doing a post grad course at Leeds uni and went into the union today. I normally avoid it as it’s full of teenagers who scare me but it was the nearest toilet and i got caught short.

Anyway as I was going into the gents I noticed on the disabled toilet there was the usual person in a wheelchair sign, and also a sign saying GN then underneath stating “gender neutral”.

This got me thinking. If I was a bloke in a wheelchair dying for a crap, or someone desperately waiting to change their stoma bag before it explodes, I’d be a bit miffed if the loo was occupied by a confused teenager.

Also I thought this may seem forward thinking from the union but also a bit offensive to gender neutrals, classing then as disabled.


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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by ClaretMoffitt » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:56 pm

Inchy wrote:Doing a post grad course at Leeds uni and went into the union today. I normally avoid it as it’s full of teenagers who scare me but it was the nearest toilet and i got caught short.

Anyway as I was going into the gents I noticed on the disabled toilet there was the usual person in a wheelchair sign, and also a sign saying GN then underneath stating “gender neutral”.

This got me thinking. If I was a bloke in a wheelchair dying for a crap, or someone desperately waiting to change their stoma bag before it explodes, I’d be a bit miffed if the loo was occupied by a confused teenager.

Also I thought this may seem forward thinking from the union but also a bit offensive to gender neutrals, classing then as disabled.


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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Lowbankclaret » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:05 pm

At work we have .

Men’s.
Women’s.
Multi cultural toilets.
Gender neutral.

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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Inchy » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:07 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:At work we have .

Men’s.
Women’s.
Multi cultural toilets.
Gender neutral.

What’s a multi cultural toilet? Does it have a bidet?
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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:08 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:At work we have .

Men’s.
Women’s.
Multi cultural toilets.
Gender neutral.
Do you use all of them as your different voting aliases?

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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Rileybobs » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:09 pm

Is it not just a disabled toilet that people of any sex can use? Like all disabled toilets?

I’ve seen the toilet in question by the way.

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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:09 pm

I'm tying to work out how women use the urinals :D

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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Lowbankclaret » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:11 pm

Inchy wrote:What’s a multi cultural toilet? Does it have a bidet?
It has handles on side of the cubicle and a posh hole in the floor.
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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Inchy » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:11 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Is it not just a disabled toilet that people of any sex can use? Like all disabled toilets?

I’ve seen the toilet in question by the way.
Well yeah, as long as you’re disabled. Gender neutrals are not disabled.

I don’t think this is a real world problem btw. These places don’t normally exist in the real world
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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Lowbankclaret » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:12 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:Do you use all of them as your different voting aliases?
You don’t need aliases, you just need people who cannot be arsed to vote to allow you vote by proxy for them.

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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:12 pm

At my work their are 3 sets of male toilets, 3 sets of female toilets, 2 sets of disabled toilets of which one is gender neutral.

About 2-300 people work there and ive never heard anything discussed ever about the toilet set up. People tend to have a lot better things to do than worry about where different people take a crap and if it you dont well thats your problem.
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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Rileybobs » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:12 pm

Inchy wrote:Well yeah. Normally as long as you’re disabled. Gender neutrals are not disabled.

I don’t think this is a real world problem btw. These places don’t normally exist in the real world
As far as I’m aware, disabled or accessible toilets can be used by anyone.

Edit - and often accessible toilets are also used for baby changing. Yet parents and children often aren’t disabled.

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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by conyoviejo » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:13 pm

I've emptied my pissbag into the canal before today.
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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Inchy » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:22 pm

Rileybobs wrote:As far as I’m aware, disabled or accessible toilets can be used by anyone.

Edit - and often accessible toilets are also used for baby changing. Yet parents and children often aren’t disabled.

If disabled toilets can be used by anyone I’ve needlessly touched cloth on more than one occasion

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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Inchy » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:24 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:At my work their are 3 sets of male toilets, 3 sets of female toilets, 2 sets of disabled toilets of which one is gender neutral.

About 2-300 people work there and ive never heard anything discussed ever about the toilet set up. People tend to have a lot better things to do than worry about where different people take a crap and if it you dont well thats your problem.

I’d hope so as well. I wouldn’t want my employees (I don’t have any) talking about the loo set up on company time

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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Rileybobs » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:25 pm

Inchy wrote:If disabled toilets can be used by anyone I’ve needlessly touched cloth on more than one occasion
:lol: There’s no rule against it. I’m not averse to using them in certain situations.

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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by spadesclaret » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:31 pm

Taken from an article in today's Eastern Daily Press -

"A gender-neutral toilet is one that is available for use by either the male or female gender and for people who have difficulty with sex-separated public toilets, like transgender and non-binary people who may feel uncomfortable.

They are also useful for parents wishing to accompany one or more of their young children needing to use the loo.

In reality it is little more than a sign on a door - in this case a stylised figure which is half male and half female."

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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by tim_noone » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:42 pm

Inchy wrote:If disabled toilets can be used by anyone I’ve needlessly touched cloth on more than one occasion
I Think Bears Have it Spot on.TBH!
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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Bosscat » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:46 pm

Inchy wrote:What’s a multi cultural toilet? Does it have a bidet?
Perhaps a multicultural toilet is one that doesn't get cleaned.... Lots of cultures growing in the pan ....







This is a joke people .... before the loopy left and ridiculous right and controlling centres get uppity ffs :D
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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Inchy » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:58 pm

spadesclaret wrote:Taken from an article in today's Eastern Daily Press -

"A gender-neutral toilet is one that is available for use by either the male or female gender and for people who have difficulty with sex-separated public toilets, like transgender and non-binary people who may feel uncomfortable.

They are also useful for parents wishing to accompany one or more of their young children needing to use the loo.

In reality it is little more than a sign on a door - in this case a stylised figure which is half male and half female."

I’m intrigued by the half male half female figure. Traditional bog signs are a bloke for a bloke and for female it’s essentially the bloke but with a skirt, sometimes long hair too.

If it’s half male and half female it can’t be top half male and bottom half female because that’s just the female figure with short hair. Then it’s just a bog for Sinead o Conner. It can’t be male bottom and female top because that’s just the male figure with long hair. So a loo for rock stars and George Boyd. Could it be the bottom half male and the top half female with a pair of knockers? But that assumes all women have large knockers.

Is it half and half split directly down the middle? Like a male and female have been sawed in half top to bottom and stitched back together?
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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Inchy » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:06 pm

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Turns out it’s this one. I was saying the above as a joke didn’t think it would actually be sawed in half person

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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by claret2018 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:15 pm

I’m so forward-thinking that I’ve got gender neutral toilets at home
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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Lord Beamish » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:20 pm

Disabled Toilets were always a godsend for me, a man with two daughters who didn’t like going in the Gents Toilet(too smelly!) and also were quite adverse to the sound of the hand dryers(the youngest, who is six, still is).
Disabled toilets meant that, when out and about with either(or both) the whole evacuation experience could be managed to everyone’s satisfaction.

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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Inchy » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:34 pm

The only time I use the disabled toilets is in Wetherspoons. The last time I used the gents in Wetherspoons I was reported as a missing person
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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Damo » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:41 pm

I personally dont have a problem with gender neutral toilets.
As long as they dont just use it as an excuse for men to enter the womens toilet, like this KFC supposedly does in Stoke.
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Very sinister indeed

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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by basil6345789 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:00 pm

Only been in one ""unisex" bog. There was a bird hissing and farting in the next trap - very off-putting.
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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Blackrod » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:05 pm

I wish there was a toilet exclusively for truck drivers at Birch Services so it’s not fouled up for everyone else.
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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Bosscat » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:14 pm

Yeats ago on a motorcycle holday in France .... I was desperate for a dump.

I parked the bike and went into the toilets to find no cubicles just holes in the floor and thought "well needs must"....

As I was crouching and thinking about random thoughts, this eather attractive French woman walked in, hoisted her skirt and crouched next to me, she smiled and said "Bonjour Monsieur" .... I just nodded and said "Bonjour" ....

Sort of put me off my stride a bit but as she evacuated what she came in for to various sound effects.... I couldn't help but smile and finished what I went in for...

She then said "Angleterre" and I replied "Oui" and then she smiled and started talking in English...... much to my surprise... I ended up spending 3 eventful days in that town till her Hubby was due home ;) ;) ;)
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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by tim_noone » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:19 pm

Bosscat wrote:Yeats ago on a motorcycle holday in France .... I was desperate for a dump.

I parked the bike and went into the toilets to find no cubicles just holes in the floor and thought "well needs must"....

As I was crouching and thinking about random thoughts, this eather attractive French woman walked in, hoisted her skirt and crouched next to me, she smiled and said "Bonjour Monsieur" .... I just nodded and said "Bonjour" ....

Sort of put me off my stride a bit but as she evacuated what she came in for to various sound effects.... I couldn't help but smile and finished what I went in for...

She then said "Angleterre" and I replied "Oui" and then she smiled and started talking in English...... much to my surprise... I ended up spending 3 eventful days in that town till her Hubby was due home ;) ;) ;)
Easy Rider.....

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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Bosscat » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:24 pm

tim_noone wrote:Easy Rider.....
Funny how threads on here make you remember things from 40 years ago :D

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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by groove » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:08 pm

You talk the talk but can you woke the woke.....

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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Funkydrummer » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:54 pm

Bosscat wrote:Yeats ago on a motorcycle holday in France .... I was desperate for a dump.

I parked the bike and went into the toilets to find no cubicles just holes in the floor and thought "well needs must"....

As I was crouching and thinking about random thoughts, this eather attractive French woman walked in, hoisted her skirt and crouched next to me, she smiled and said "Bonjour Monsieur" .... I just nodded and said "Bonjour" ....

Sort of put me off my stride a bit but as she evacuated what she came in for to various sound effects.... I couldn't help but smile and finished what I went in for...

She then said "Angleterre" and I replied "Oui" and then she smiled and started talking in English...... much to my surprise... I ended up spending 3 eventful days in that town till her Hubby was due home ;) ;) ;)
So, it was you was it, yer b@stard ? :o :D
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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Bosscat » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:03 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:So, it was you was it, yer b@stard ? :o :D
'Allo 'Allo Son ;) :D
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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by tarkys_ears » Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:42 am

Th'as either got a cock or tha ant!

If in doubt just use the gents, they've got both kinds of bogs and don't get as upset on "intruders"!

..not difficult really

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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Croydon Claret » Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:42 am

These signs used to be posted in various toilets where I work.

Thankfully, the behaviour of our overseas colleagues has improved since then
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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:20 pm

There are Arab squat toilets in Burnley Market as well as wcs and urinals.

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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Spike » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:26 pm

Stupid idea waste of money. give it a rest on this subject please!!!!!!!

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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Bosscat » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:57 pm

boatshed bill wrote:I'm tying to work out how women use the urinals :D
We went out on a drinking trip about 30 years ago group split evenly if Lads n Lasses ... we had a bet with one of the lasses she couldn't use a urinal .... we lost the bloody bet cos she had a damned "She-wee" in her bag ...
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Cost us a bottle of bloody vodka but was bloody hilarious to a bunch of p1ssed 20-30 somethings :lol:

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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:17 pm

Bosscat wrote:We went out on a drinking trip about 30 years ago group split evenly if Lads n Lasses ... we had a bet with one of the lasses she couldn't use a urinal .... we lost the bloody bet cos she had a damned "She-wee" in her bag ...
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Cost us a bottle of bloody vodka but was bloody hilarious to a bunch of p1ssed 20-30 somethings :lol:
Are you sure they were invented 30 years ago?

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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Bosscat » Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:22 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Are you sure they were invented 30 years ago?
Its a p1ss take joke Riley m8 ffs

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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:23 pm

Bosscat wrote:Its a p1ss take joke Riley m8 ffs
Oh right. Just seemed like you were passing it off as a genuine story.

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Post by Bosscat » Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:26 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Oh right. Just seemed like you were passing it off as a genuine story.
I wouldn't do that on here its frowned upon :)

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Re: Gender neutral toilet

Post by Rick_Muller » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:14 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:There are Arab squat toilets in Burnley Market as well as wcs and urinals.
Technically speaking squat toilets are better for your bowel health.

As far as the debate about what to call them - how about Toilets... no messing about with Male/Female/GN/Arab/disabled etc - just toilets and spend a lifetime teaching people that defecation and urination are natural and done by all and there’s no need to be so precious about it. Whilst we do that, we need to educate everyone on hygiene and manners too - leave it how you want to find it... it may take a generation or two but it would be worth it
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