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Is there anything sweeter

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:38 pm

Than a headed goal like that? Wow. And we have that bullshit VAR tk go and ruin it. The games dead.
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Re: Is there anything sweeter

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:43 pm

They wont be happy until a major injury happens during an incident.

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Re: Is there anything sweeter

Post by Tribesmen » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:18 pm

Ireland beating Denmark would be better .

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Re: Is there anything sweeter

Post by DCWat » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:21 pm

If it takes so long to decide, it’s not clear and obvious.

It’s a crap system that needs binning.
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Re: Is there anything sweeter

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:28 pm

Clear and obvious doesn't apply to offsides. It was an excellent goal, but he was offside. Can't really complain, especially after the first goal, when it shouldn't have been a corner.

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Re: Is there anything sweeter

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:28 pm

Dyche this week said if you are offside by 3 inches then you are offside. Sooner they change it to daylight the better

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Re: Is there anything sweeter

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:29 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Dyche this week said if you are offside by 3 inches then you are offside. Sooner they change it to daylight the better
All that does is move the line. How do you define daylight? What if there's just 3 inches of daylight?
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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:31 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Clear and obvious doesn't apply to offsides. It was an excellent goal, but he was offside. Can't really complain, especially after the first goal, when it shouldn't have been a corner.
That itself shows how fkd var is. How we can benefit so easily from a wrong decision as VAR cant be used as the goal wasnt directly a reault of the wrong decision.

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Re: Is there anything sweeter

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:35 pm

Tall Paul wrote:All that does is move the line. How do you define daylight? What if there's just 3 inches of daylight?
there will be far more goals if the line is moved imho, instead of being ruled out for a toe being 3 inches off you would have pretty much a persons full body shape that will be onside, no brainer for me. I want to be entertained and VAR is ******* that right up !
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Re: Is there anything sweeter

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:19 pm

Too close to call should go with lino or refs decision. When the red and blue line can’t be separated is too close to call.

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Re: Is there anything sweeter

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:20 pm

Than Clarets winning and Bar Stewards losing?!

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Re: Is there anything sweeter

Post by Funkydrummer » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:31 pm

..... than a question mark ? :lol:

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Re: Is there anything sweeter

Post by Belgianclaret » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:35 pm

It was a correct decision this time: offside

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Re: Is there anything sweeter

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:46 pm

DCWat wrote:If it takes so long to decide, it’s not clear and obvious.

It’s a crap system that needs binning.
To be fair that was quite a quick decision for Lee Mason.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:01 pm

What would happen to the yellow card Wood couldve got for celebrating with the crowd or removing his shirt?

Or what would happen if the goal was disallowed but had been scored after an advantage on the edge of the box was given (where var cant intervene)?
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Post by Taffy on the wing » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:07 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Clear and obvious doesn't apply to offsides. It was an excellent goal, but he was offside. Can't really complain, especially after the first goal, when it shouldn't have been a corner.
The side-on replay shows it hit's the Wet spam player.

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Post by dsr » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:24 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Clear and obvious doesn't apply to offsides. It was an excellent goal, but he was offside. Can't really complain, especially after the first goal, when it shouldn't have been a corner.
He was offside if you assume that the photo was taken at the exact instant, to the nearest one-six hundredth of a second, to when the ball was played. Are you so certain?

As for the corner, there's only two ways to stop that. One, to allow VAR to judge the decision for every corner, throw-in, free kick, everything. Two, to allow VAR to go back as far as it likes to find a reason to disallow every goal that is ever scored. Neither will happen - this is one aspect where VAR doesn't go over-the-top stupid.
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Re: Is there anything sweeter

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:05 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Clear and obvious doesn't apply to offsides. It was an excellent goal, but he was offside. Can't really complain, especially after the first goal, when it shouldn't have been a corner.
But a corner was given and it was then up to them to defend it, not complain after the goal had been scored. You imply that it was a clear offside which it wasn't and the general consensus around where I was sitting was quite adamant that decisions like that(which took so long) are destroying the game. The system is flawed and most.definetly not enhancing or improving the game.
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Re: Is there anything sweeter

Post by Dark Cloud » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:19 pm

Next news examples of our first goal will be getting referred to VAR as after we scored the (wrongly) awarding of the corner was clearly massively important!!! So the game will just get even shi**er! :roll:
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Post by Bosscat » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:53 pm

I loved Woody's celebration for his goal (with finger in his ear pointing to the centre spot) parodying a VAR given goal by the Referee listening to Stockley Park and Lee Mason choking on his bovril having to give us a goal.....

Thats sweet m8 :D :D :D
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Post by Sean Dyche's Watch » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:11 pm

Bosscat wrote:I loved Woody's celebration for his goal (with finger in his ear pointing to the centre spot) parodying a VAR given goal by the Referee listening to Stockley Park and Lee Mason choking on his bovril having to give us a goal.....

Thats sweet m8 :D :D :D
And Westwood doing the VAR symbol behind the referee's back!

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Re: Is there anything sweeter

Post by Grumps » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:20 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Clear and obvious doesn't apply to offsides. It was an excellent goal, but he was offside. Can't really complain, especially after the first goal, when it shouldn't have been a corner.
It does apply, according to the managers who had a meeting with Mike Riley this week

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Re: Is there anything sweeter

Post by Bosscat » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:38 pm

Sean Dyche's Watch wrote:And Westwood doing the VAR symbol behind the referee's back!
Brilliant :lol: wasn't it lol

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Re: Is there anything sweeter

Post by redwasp » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:40 pm

I think we should have a No Goal of the season vote come next May. I'm sure there will be a few contenders before the campaigns over but that one was a beauty yesterday. McNeils crossing is a centre forwards dream, he's up there with Dave Thomas, Taffy and McMinn.
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Post by Tall Paul » Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:03 pm

Grumps wrote:It does apply, according to the managers who had a meeting with Mike Riley this week
The Premier League's own website must be wrong then.

https://www.premierleague.com/VAR/FAQs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by beeholeclaret » Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:47 pm

redwasp wrote:I think we should have a No Goal of the season vote come next May. I'm sure there will be a few contenders before the campaigns over but that one was a beauty yesterday. McNeils crossing is a centre forwards dream, he's up there with Dave Thomas, Taffy and McMinn.

I was telling my son yesterday that in my younger days we had centre forwards like Paul Fletcher and Ray Hankin who used to score with headers similar to Wood's yesterday. The McNeill crossing reminded me of those by Leighton James.
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Post by Grumps » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:38 pm

Tall Paul wrote:The Premier League's own website must be wrong then.

https://www.premierleague.com/VAR/FAQs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Chris wilder interviewed after yesterday's game says they were told at the meeting to overrule a goal for offside it had to be clear and obvious.

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Post by Tall Paul » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:00 pm

Grumps wrote:Chris wilder interviewed after yesterday's game says they were told at the meeting to overrule a goal for offside it had to be clear and obvious.
Where can I see or read about this interview?

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Post by Stayingup » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:06 pm

[quote="Tall Paul"]Clear and obvious doesn't apply to offsides. It was an excellent goal, but he was offside. Can't really complain, especially after the first goal, when it shouldn't have been a corner.[/quote

First goal has nothing to do with it. Nothing at all. The point is if VAR can take 3 minutes to make a decision then its not a clear. The onfield officials didn't disallow the goal. Thats how it should be. Not damn well reliant on some clown like Mason drawing lines on a screen to.see if a mi or part of a players anatomy was offside when the cross was desptached. Idiotic this VAR is at is currently being used. Ban it now.

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Post by Grumps » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:08 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Where can I see or read about this interview?
Today's sun... Iam not making it up!!!

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Post by Tall Paul » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:16 pm

Grumps wrote:Today's sun... Iam not making it up!!!
I'm sure you aren't, but he could well have been misquoted or he misunderstood what he was told.

Found it - https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... is-wilder/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So they've either changed it and need to update their website or Wilder has got it wrong. As the vast majority of football supporters struggle to understand it, I suspect the latter is more likely.
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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:17 pm

redwasp wrote:I think we should have a No Goal of the season vote come next May. I'm sure there will be a few contenders before the campaigns over but that one was a beauty yesterday. McNeils crossing is a centre forwards dream, he's up there with Dave Thomas, Taffy and McMinn.
Do well to beat yesterday’s.

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