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Post by beddie » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:45 pm

Just wondered if anyone's heard if he's okay. Not sure what the injury was was but assumed it wasn't good. Hope the lad is not badly hurt.

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Re: Lanzini

Post by conyoviejo » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:49 pm

Wasn't it a dislocated shoulder ?

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Re: Lanzini

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:52 pm

Ambulance was coming down the entrance by the cricket field as we were leaving

The updates were saying it’s shoulder

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Re: Lanzini

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:59 pm

Yep same injury as Heaton.

Imagine being lanzini poor bugger. Got slated off his captain recently, then came on in a game like that, got a horrible injury and then has to spend the night at blackburn general.
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Re: Lanzini

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:59 pm

Also thought the foul from westwood was a bit naughty and needless.
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Re: Lanzini

Post by FCBurnley » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:03 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Also thought the foul from westwood was a bit naughty and needless.
Yes it was but it was not a dangerous tackle. Think they are called a professional foul in the modern game. You see them every game. No blame on Westy from me
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Re: Lanzini

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:04 pm

FCBurnley wrote:Yes it was but it was not a dangerous tackle. Think they are called a professional foul in the modern game. You see them every game. No blame on Westy from me
Imagine it was the reverse. And Snodgrass had done it to McNeil in a game that was already done.

No need at all really.

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Re: Lanzini

Post by Jakubs Tash » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:04 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Also thought the foul from westwood was a bit naughty and needless.
Naughty, yes - and he got a yellow card. I wouldn't say it was needless....but that can be debated.

Westwood certainly didn't mean to injure the player and, a bit like the Son/Gomes incident last week, the injury makes his foul seem worse.

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Re: Lanzini

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:10 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Also thought the foul from westwood was a bit naughty and needless.
It was but Lanzini got away with one himself when he was lucky to miss McNeil with a lunge from behind.

I did think the ref would go back to book him but it too that long for play to stop he must have forgotten
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Re: Lanzini

Post by Pimlico_Claret » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:11 pm

Might not have been as bad if he hadn't overreacted as he went down.
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Re: Lanzini

Post by IanMcL » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:11 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:It was but Lanzini got away with one himself when he was lucky to miss McNeil with a lunge from behind.

I did think the ref would go back to book him but it too that long for play to stop he must have forgotten
No. He played for the opposition.
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Re: Lanzini

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:29 pm

A cowards foul. Far too many people doing it. It was deliberate and it's endangering players.

The only deliberate fouls left in the game.

Stamp it out with red cards.

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Re: Lanzini

Post by Down_Rover » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:32 pm

Every sympathy but if he got what he deserved for his lunge he would not have been on the pitch

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Re: Lanzini

Post by dougcollins » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:41 pm

Westwood had a bit of a mad 10 minutes, probably should have been carded earlier.

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Re: Lanzini

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:11 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:A cowards foul. Far too many people doing it. It was deliberate and it's endangering players.

The only deliberate fouls left in the game.

Stamp it out with red cards.
It was a trip. He injured himself because of how he fell. Very unfortunate but a red card for that? You can't be serious! The game is in a mess at.the moment.but a little bit of perspective is needed here.
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Re: Lanzini

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:26 pm

The worst foul of the game was on McNeil but thankfully didn't make contact with him. Absolutely shocking and the West Ham player got away with it.

As for the Lanzini foul, I agree with Silkyskills1 - no way on earth is that a red. Doubt he'd have got a yellow from a lot of refs.
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Re: Lanzini

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:29 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Yep same injury as Heaton.

Imagine being lanzini poor bugger. Got slated off his captain recently, then came on in a game like that, got a horrible injury and then has to spend the night at blackburn general.
Don’t know why I enjoyed that so much :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Lanzini

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:32 pm

Jesus Christ if we are crying about trips?? I give up
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Re: Lanzini

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:37 pm

"Then has to spend the night at Blackburn General"

Got to be worse that anything that went before :lol:

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Re: Lanzini

Post by beddie » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:56 pm

Every ref in the land would have given a yellow card for that. Professional foul at its best, otherwise known as "one for the team". It was very unfortunate that Lanzini landed in the way he did.

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Re: Lanzini

Post by Rick_Muller » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:58 pm

ClaretTony wrote:The worst foul of the game was on McNeil but thankfully didn't make contact with him. Absolutely shocking and the West Ham player got away with it.

As for the Lanzini foul, I agree with Silkyskills1 - no way on earth is that a red. Doubt he'd have got a yellow from a lot of refs.
I thought the foul on Taylor was pretty tasty too

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Post by EarbyClaret » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:13 pm

Every sympathy for Lanzini - but it's about the foul (yellow) not the resultant injury.

A bit like Ash Barnes and the cruciate he got at Villa in what in rugby terms is described as a 'meaningless rubber'

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Re: Lanzini

Post by NL Claret » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:20 pm

From TV Westwood's was a take one for the team, guessing it was the players landing that caused the injury.

As for the one on Taylor, there was no contact.

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Re: Lanzini

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:24 pm

ClaretTony wrote:The worst foul of the game was on McNeil but thankfully didn't make contact with him. Absolutely shocking and the West Ham player got away with it.

As for the Lanzini foul, I agree with Silkyskills1 - no way on earth is that a red. Doubt he'd have got a yellow from a lot of refs.
It's not by the law but I think it needs changing. It's deliberate cheating that over the last couple of weekends has resulted in serious injuries to players.

A foul that has no intention of playing the ball should have severe punishment. Yellow cards are nothing these days.

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Re: Lanzini

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:28 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:I thought the foul on Taylor was pretty tasty too
Might be the same one - thought it was McNeil but in second half down the left close to the half way line. Absolutely shocking challenge.
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Re: Lanzini

Post by Rick_Muller » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:31 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Might be the same one - thought it was McNeil but in second half down the left close to the half way line. Absolutely shocking challenge.
Might be the same one CT... I’m now questioning my own sanity :D
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Post by nil_desperandum » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:32 pm

NL Claret wrote:From TV Westwood's was a take one for the team, guessing it was the players landing that caused the injury.
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It didn't realistically help the team at all though.
With us 3-0 up going into injury time it was a stupid foul resulting in a deserved but unnecessary yellow card that could ultimately contribute to a suspension, and which unfortunately led to a serious injury.
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Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:33 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Might be the same one - thought it was McNeil but in second half down the left close to the half way line. Absolutely shocking challenge.

Two separate incidents

Lanzini “lunged” at McNeil just inside the WHU half on the touch line but McNeil was thankfully to far away for him to make contact

The Taylor incident was more from center circle running towards the BL touch line when a WHU player dived in
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Re: Lanzini

Post by SGr » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:40 pm

Foul was a yellow card offence simply because he was attempting to break. You see the same foul about 4 times in virtually any game and 99 times out of 100 the victim doesn't suffer a significant injury. It's unfortunate, but that's really all there is to say on it. Wasn't even close to being the most serious challenge in the match.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:43 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:Two separate incidents

Lanzini “lunged” at McNeil just inside the WHU half on the touch line but McNeil was thankfully to far away for him to make contact

The Taylor incident was more from center circle running towards the BL touch line when a WHU player dived in
It was the touchline one I was referring to - very lucky that the ref didn't go back and card him but it did take about five minutes for there to be a stoppage.

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Post by Long Time Lurker » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:47 pm

It was Fredericks who went in on Taylor. He pulled back and didn't go in fully, which could have been a leg breaker, but he put enough into it to stop Taylors run and put him on the ground. A one for the team professional foul the same as Westies.

Lanzini was just unlucky with his landing.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:34 pm

After watching the Westwood trip on MOTD it's not as bad as it looked from the CF end, from right behind him it looked a lot more deliberate and calculated.

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Re: Lanzini

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:36 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:Don’t know why I enjoyed that so much :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Saw the ambulance struggling to get through after game. Instantly thought what a poor bugger :lol:

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Re: Lanzini

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:38 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:After watching the Westwood trip on MOTD it's not as bad as it looked from the CF end, from right behind him it looked a lot more deliberate and calculated.
Equally agree doesnt look as bad from tv.

That said still needless at 3 nil.
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Re: Lanzini

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:40 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:I thought the foul on Taylor was pretty tasty too
I’ve not seen this back but live it looked like he thought he could win it but Taylor was just too quick. No real problem with it.

The one on McNeil was and the one from Westwood we’re not too dissimilar, both to stop the break, one was put in with more effort than the other.
Shame for West Ham ours seems to have caused a bad injury.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:58 am

Burnley1989 wrote:Jesus Christ if we are crying about trips?? I give up
kieran trippier was fabulous for us, I cried when he left and it still upsets me now






(I didn't cry I just made that bit up)

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Re: Lanzini

Post by The Enclosure » Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:22 am

The foul on Charlie Taylor should have been a straight red .
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Re: Lanzini

Post by mdd2 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:46 am

Pimlico_Claret wrote:Might not have been as bad if he hadn't overreacted as he went down.
If you are referring to him stamping his feet as he lay on the ground then how is that over reacting given he had just dislocated his shoulder and if not then I did not see any over reaction on his way down and the fact that he landed on his shoulder implies his fall/dive was uncontrolled or he is a barmpot for deliberately landing on his shoulder to break his fall.
Not sure why he needed a stretcher for a dislocated shoulder since I think Tom and I know Pope walked off the pitches when they did theirs.

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Re: Lanzini

Post by Shore claret » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:56 am

ClaretTony wrote:It was the touchline one I was referring to - very lucky that the ref didn't go back and card him but it did take about five minutes for there to be a stoppage.
I guarantee he wou!d of gone back and booked our resident shithouse, Ashley Barnes

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Re: Lanzini

Post by MDWat » Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:36 am

The Westwood one was a bit naughty but a ‘professional’ foul - definitely a yellow card.

The one on Taylor was a yellow. As LTL has said, he went in hard but withdrew a bit when he realised he wasn’t getting there. Tough when he probably has about a quarter of a second to react.

Lanzini was miles away from McNeil. Not the big issue many are going on about above. Should have been a yellow for the action but he was miles away from him.

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Re: Lanzini

Post by Funkydrummer » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:37 pm

It's a fractured collarbone.

https://talksport.com/football/628162/w ... e-burnley/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Lanzini

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:48 pm

We needed a bit of steel in cm
Often weve failed to make challenges in the past (Sheff Utd being a case in point)
Its a shame Lanzini got injured but its one of the hazards involved in contact sport

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Post by jojomk1 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:03 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:After watching the Westwood trip on MOTD it's not as bad as it looked from the CF end, from right behind him it looked a lot more deliberate and calculated.
It can't have been any more deliberate and calculated

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:46 am

jojomk1 wrote:It can't have been any more deliberate and calculated
Watching live looked like he chased him for a couple of seconds, on the telly it doesn't look like he had much time at all.

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Post by IanMcL » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:00 am

Funkydrummer wrote:It's a fractured collarbone.

https://talksport.com/football/628162/w ... e-burnley/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Is that all? Kids get that in the playground! Just get up and go to the teacher saying "I have hurt my shoulder". Stretcher??????

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Post by mdd2 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:27 am

IanMcL wrote:Is that all? Kids get that in the playground! Just get up and go to the teacher saying "I have hurt my shoulder". Stretcher??????
And as for needing a stretcher for a collar bone fracture-save me. Arm sling would have sufficed.They often operate on them these days but a figure of 8 bandage for us plebs would suffice. Soft as clarts some of these footballers!!!!!
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Re: Lanzini

Post by Bosscat » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:33 am

Rick_Muller wrote:Might be the same one CT... I’m now questioning my own sanity :D
Hmmmm there is a joke there Rick but not today ;)
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Re: Lanzini

Post by Colburn_Claret » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:34 am

My daughter broke her collar bone 2 hours before we were leaving for a 3 week trip around Europe. It wasnt until 3 days later in Salzburg that my mother insisted we took her to hospital, that we found out what she'd got. One very guilty Dad.
In her case they just put a strap around her shoulders and said it would sort itself. Im sure it wont be more than a few weeks for Lanzini.
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Re: Lanzini

Post by Bosscat » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:34 am

Shore claret wrote:our resident shithouse, Ashley Barnes
:o :o :o

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Re: Lanzini

Post by Shore claret » Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:34 pm

Bosscat wrote::o :o :o
I love him but he deals in the dark arts apparently.

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