Ben Mee’s goal
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Ben Mee’s goal
What was it disallowed for?
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Because we’re Burnley and because Ben Mee doesn’t score...
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Foul by Barnes according to BBC.
Or because no-one likes us.
Or because no-one likes us.
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VAR what is it good for.... huh!!!!
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!
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"Say it again"Bosscat wrote:VAR what is it good for.... huh!!!!
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!
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Got to wonder why didn’t Lee Mason spot the obvious shirt pull on Mee beforehand?
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In this case Friend appeared to blow the whistle quite bit before Mee headed the ball, so that made it impossible for VAR to be brought into play.Bosscat wrote:VAR what is it good for.... huh!!!!
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!
This is another anomaly that VAR throws up. Had he not blown, he could have either disallowed or awarded the goal, and then VAR could have verified.
There's just no consistency.
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VAR what is it good for.... huh!!!!beddie wrote:"Say it again"
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!
Just for you Beddie m8
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VAR could still have picked up the fact that the West Ham defender wanted Mee’s shirt which happened before the alleged Barnes foul.nil_desperandum wrote:In this case Friend appeared to blow the whistle quite bit before Mee headed the ball, so that made it impossible for VAR to be brought into play.
This is another anomaly that VAR throws up. Had he not blown, he could have either disallowed or awarded the goal, and then VAR could have verified.
There's just no consistency.
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Lee Mason the man that handed Preston there 3 - 2 win on a plate all those years ago. I think he missed the most blatant handball on the line that you are ever likely to see. I suspect he is from the Stevie Wonder school of vision......Bordeauxclaret wrote:Got to wonder why didn’t Lee Mason spot the obvious shirt pull on Mee beforehand?
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I assume motd will show it but from what I saw in CFS Barnes clearly barged the keeper over before Ben got his bonce on it.
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Of course we know by now that us having a man on the Goalie at corners is what we do, but I don't think it was needed today.
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Maybe. I don't think any of us really know when VAR can be brought into play and when not, especially the officials, and having Lee Mason as arbiter renders the whole thing a joke.martin_p wrote:VAR could still have picked up the fact that the West Ham defender wanted Mee’s shirt which happened before the alleged Barnes foul.
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I wonder if it’ll warrant an explanation from Dermot on Monday morning.
Perhaps both the referee and VAR were unsighted?
Perhaps both the referee and VAR were unsighted?
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I think it’s pretty clear when VAR can be used. One instance it can definitely be used is potential penalties whether the ref saw it or not. The Mee incident falls into that category.nil_desperandum wrote:Maybe. I don't think any of us really know when VAR can be brought into play and when not, especially the officials, and having Lee Mason as arbiter renders the whole thing a joke.
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Both the first and third goals were helped by the goalkeeper getting his knickers in such a twist over Barnes standing near him, that he forgot to concentrate on the ball. Watch the first one - he gave Barnes a two handed shove, smack bang into the right place to score from!Bin Ont Turf wrote:Of course we know by now that us having a man on the Goalie at corners is what we do, but I don't think it was needed today.
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Just seen it on Sky, clear pen. The Sky commentator picked it up to be fair.
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The way Westwood delivers them corners it must be horrific for a goalie.dsr wrote:Both the first and third goals were helped by the goalkeeper getting his knickers in such a twist over Barnes standing near him, that he forgot to concentrate on the ball. Watch the first one - he gave Barnes a two handed shove, smack bang into the right place to score from!
Even for shite Spanish ones.
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I am not going to defend the decision. However the demand for perfection brought in VAR. Reap what you sow is the most appropriate expression.
Maybe just maybe fans and managers might just get off referees backs and realise how difficult the job actually is.
Maybe just maybe fans and managers might just get off referees backs and realise how difficult the job actually is.
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But they aren’t using it in a way anyone expected (or that we were led to believe at the start at the season) that’s the problem. VAR was used in the World Cup without the levels of controversy we have in the Premier League. I don’t have a problem with using VAR per se, just the way it’s being used in the Premier League.dpinsussex wrote:I am not going to defend the decision. However the demand for perfection brought in VAR. Reap what you sow is the most appropriate expression.
Maybe just maybe fans and managers might just get off referees backs and realise how difficult the job actually is.
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At least 2 and possibly 3 errors by var today. It’s simply not acceptable
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It really is too bad that Kevin Friend blows.nil_desperandum wrote: Had he not blown, he could have either disallowed or awarded the goal, and then VAR could have verified.
There's just no consistency.
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Bin Ont Turf wrote:The way Westwood delivers them corners it must be horrific for a goalie.
Westwood has got those corners down to fine art, must be nightmare to defend. ‘Bashley’ also has it down pat, how he dances around to distract the goalie. The opposition know it’s coming, more power to Dyche and his crew in making things so difficult.
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Barnes pushed the keeper, shame really because he was never getting it anyway
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How difficult is it to watch a screen and make the correct decision ?dpinsussex wrote:I am not going to defend the decision. However the demand for perfection brought in VAR. Reap what you sow is the most appropriate expression.
Maybe just maybe fans and managers might just get off referees backs and realise how difficult the job actually is.
Every week the wrong decisions are made with the benefit of replays.
Why is the pitch side monitor not used?
How come English referees are so bad at interpretation of the rules?
Why do rules change every week?
Var is effectively used in other countries however the hapless fools in this country manage to make the wrong decisions week in, week out.
How many English referees at the last World Cup? 0. I wonder why.
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I'm not quite convinced that the referee going over to look at a monitor is the answer, isn't the ref at the VAR control centre watching it live and seeing replays ? So a referee is already looking at the incident on a monitor
The implementation of VAR here is turning people off, it's causing more problems than answers. Watching football for me certainly isn't better because of VAR; it's worse.
The implementation of VAR here is turning people off, it's causing more problems than answers. Watching football for me certainly isn't better because of VAR; it's worse.
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That's exactly what Danny Murphy said on MOTD The cure is worse than the illness in VAR's case. Not only does it spoil the excitement when celebrating a goal, it holds up the game and even then some of the decisions are wrong.ceborame wrote:The implementation of VAR here is turning people off, it's causing more problems than answers. Watching football for me certainly isn't better because of VAR; it's worse.
The Sheff Utd dissallowed goal yesterday was a joke and shown everything that is bad about VAR. And the Ben Mee no goal wasn't even shown on MOTD.
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MOTD has its own agenda so no surprise the mee incident was not shown nor much comment on the disallowed goal.
My understanding of var is that the on field referee gets a word to go and check the monitor then makes the decision. If he's not sure it goes to var.
Only in this country it is used differently as the decision has been made to not use the monitors as it will take too long. Instead it is referred to stockley park for them to take 3-5 minutes to come up with the wrong decision. The use of technology for offsides (armpit or nostril) with all these lines is just goal prevention. No doubt that the PL will come out justify the var errors just like last week. The arrogance of it all is on another level.
My understanding of var is that the on field referee gets a word to go and check the monitor then makes the decision. If he's not sure it goes to var.
Only in this country it is used differently as the decision has been made to not use the monitors as it will take too long. Instead it is referred to stockley park for them to take 3-5 minutes to come up with the wrong decision. The use of technology for offsides (armpit or nostril) with all these lines is just goal prevention. No doubt that the PL will come out justify the var errors just like last week. The arrogance of it all is on another level.
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Because Clattenburg was the Premier League’s representative but then left to referee in Saudi Arabia and forfeited his place.NL Claret wrote:How many English referees at the last World Cup? 0. I wonder why.
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Add to that the fact he's s big Bolton fan and openly dislikes Burnley and calls them Dingles. Impartiality at its best...Hibsclaret wrote:Lee Mason the man that handed Preston there 3 - 2 win on a plate all those years ago. I think he missed the most blatant handball on the line that you are ever likely to see. I suspect he is from the Stevie Wonder school of vision......
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Didn’t even celebrate our third goal yesterday because I assumed it would be chalked off.
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And, our first goal highlighted a massive problem with VAR. West Ham conceded from a corner that should have been a goal kick. How is that fair?
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Me too!Foulthrow wrote:Didn’t even celebrate our third goal yesterday because I assumed it would be chalked off.
In fact the only one I celebrated of the five was the wood one ruled out, was convinced he was well onside (from the CFS)
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It is what has happened in football since the game started. Players make mistakes, managers make mistakes, officials make mistakes and the gamae continues. At least, it used to be the case, however, now with the advent of VAR everyone expects things to be 100% correct. The only way that you will get anywhere near 100% is by using VAR for EVERY decision made by the onfield officials.Foulthrow wrote:And, our first goal highlighted a massive problem with VAR. West Ham conceded from a corner that should have been a goal kick. How is that fair?
I am sure that FIFA and the tv companies will be working on how to implement this without it impacting too much on the length of a game. Perhaps they could shorten the games to 30 minutes each way.
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