BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:49 am

Grezza was brilliant

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:49 am

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:41 am
Is he easily replaceable and at what cost?

Probably at the cost of our PL status.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:54 am

I wouldn't be selling anyone in January who we can't replace unless its a certain fee - £100 million for Tarky for instance. Anything less than that could so easily mean going down and making any money we receive, being less than the money we'd make staying up.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:58 am

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:39 pm
every player has a price, if they meet the alleged clause in his contract it wont matter what any of us think. 50 million is a very fair price for him though, once we pay Brentford their sell on fee we will still be left with a reasonable amount to improve the squad. Defenders are the easiest players to replace in any team, always have been and always will be. He isn't Maldini on Van Dijk

According to an article I read, Tarks clause is that he can only go to a NW club for £40m + so they managed to somehow say that Leicester could pick him up for a bargain £25m because they aren't NW. Still trying to work out their reasoning on that one.

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:30 pm

Connor Gallagher and Josh Brownhill linked with us in the last few days, sorry if anyone posted this previously .

Can’t see Chelsea recalling Gallagher though unless we offer a fee which they think is too good to turn down.

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:42 am

Still pretty quiet.
I was hoping for a signing early in the month.
The squad feels like it needs a boost.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:28 am

burnley007 wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:42 am
Still pretty quiet.
I was hoping for a signing early in the month.
The squad feels like it needs a boost.

You should know by now we rarely do our business early

wouldn't surprise me if we sat the January window out,and waited till the summer when we'll know who's staying and who's going.

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:05 pm

Jarrod Bowen - Spurs and West ham chasing. That's us out if we were ever interested.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... 1577011137

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:14 pm

Josh Brownhill from Bristol City, is today's rumour.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:45 am

Ollie Watkins £25m another that won't happen. What's even less likely is the Chris Wood to Villa whisper at the end of the article. I think they just make these things up for something to print.

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/t ... m-17468925

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:52 am

Firthy wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:45 am
Ollie Watkins £25m another that won't happen. What's even less likely is the Chris Wood to Villa whisper at the end of the article. I think they just make these things up for something to print.

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/t ... m-17468925

Lancs.live is the new TeamTalk

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:24 am

Won’t be anything early in January... or early in the summer for that matter. That’s just a consequence of what we pay. Agents advising players to hang on... fair enough.

I’d be very surprised if we sign a first team starter (someone brought in to replace a current first team starter) unless a player has moved on elsewhere, in either window.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:54 am

bobinho wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:24 am
Won’t be anything early in January... or early in the summer for that matter. That’s just a consequence of what we pay. Agents advising players to hang on... fair enough.

I’d be very surprised if we sign a first team starter (someone brought in to replace a current first team starter) unless a player has moved on elsewhere, in either window.

But there's a good chance this summer our midfield will be missing Hendrick, Drinkwater and Lennon, with potential interest in McNeil. If we leave it late we'll be going into the season pretty much down to the bare bones.

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:58 am

jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:54 am
But there's a good chance this summer our midfield will be missing Hendrick, Drinkwater and Lennon, with potential interest in McNeil. If we leave it late we'll be going into the season pretty much down to the bare bones.

Who was our last January signing that was bought with the intention of going straight into the starting eleven? Brady? As you say we need more players in fairly quickly

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:00 am

A couple of £10m-£15m Championship players for bedding in before next season will be the best I’d expect. Could be some turnover in Summer and that worries me.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:00 am

bobinho wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:24 am
Won’t be anything early in January... or early in the summer for that matter. That’s just a consequence of what we pay. Agents advising players to hang on... fair enough.

I’d be very surprised if we sign a first team starter (someone brought in to replace a current first team starter) unless a player has moved on elsewhere, in either window.

I don't agree with this. It really has come to a stage where it is essential that the starting XI is improved. The last player to sign for the club and be a first XI starter was Chris Wood. That was August 2017....it's nearly January 2020. We just can't keep going with the same XI whilst others around us strengthen.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:03 am

Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:00 am
The last player to sign for the club and be a first XI starter was Chris Wood. That was August 2017....it's nearly January 2020. We just can't keep going with the same XI whilst others around us strengthen.

Looking at the league table it appears we can but I get your concerns.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:09 am

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:03 am
Looking at the league table it appears we can but I get your concerns.

It's not just the obvious of bringing players in with a greater ability but also bringing players in who will allow us to play in a different way. We can't go into every game playing 442 with blind faith and then whinging when we get the runaround.

24 points at this stage is brilliant - I am very happy with that. But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't be looking to improve and further strengthen. Strengthening when in a good position is always the best time to do it.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:19 pm

jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:54 am
But there's a good chance this summer our midfield will be missing Hendrick, Drinkwater and Lennon, with potential interest in McNeil. If we leave it late we'll be going into the season pretty much down to the bare bones.

I agree entirely, but it won’t be us that leaves it late. It will be our targets, because they will be advised by their agents to hang on until the last minute just in case there’s a better offer. And there probably will be...not a criticism, merely an observation.
I’d be delighted tho if we went shopping abroad and picked up a gem..

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:48 pm

I think Gibson was signed with intent of playing with Mee not re-signing, but no one seems to have come in for Ben and he resigned with the rest being history

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:09 pm

Like the summer, we will be looking to shift Vydra on, but not before a replacement comes in.

That might not necessarily be a like for like or a forward.

Joe Hart has been offered a chance to play abroad, and has let the club know he is keen to move.

Think this may be our busiest january window for a long time, with at least 2 going out, and I'd say the same if not more coming in.

Holtyclaret · Post by **Holtyclaret** » Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:45 pm

I wouldn’t get your hopes up, hart wont be replaced and we won’t be rushed into panic buying. It’d be nice to see a fresh couple of faces but I think it’ll be the summer for us now.

Down_Rover · Post by **Down_Rover** » Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:50 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:00 am
I don't agree with this. It really has come to a stage where it is essential that the starting XI is improved. The last player to sign for the club and be a first XI starter was Chris Wood. That was August 2017....it's nearly January 2020. We just can't keep going with the same XI whilst others around us strengthen.

Not many have strengthened more than us, but all have spent more money

The key is not spending more money but signing the right players

Claret Toni · Post by **Claret Toni** » Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:44 pm

If, and it's a big if, 'cos my barber doesn't admit to knowing anyone who has a box next to the director's box at any club, and my chiropodist's only discussion about the beautiful game concerns the fortunes of the "dabbers", the most likely movement is Hart to the US and he who drinks anything but water decides to indulge in some Turkish Delight, then doesn't that free up quite a bit on the wages front.

Add that to some dry powder, and surely we have the wherewithal to strengthen, perhaps in midfield, perhaps at full-back.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:11 pm

Down_Rover wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:50 pm
Not many have strengthened more than us, but all have spent more money

The key is not spending more money but signing the right players

I would suggest most (if not all) don't currently have the same regular starting XI than they had 12/18/24 months ago. We do. This would suggest they have brought in upgrades.

cblantfanclub · Post by **cblantfanclub** » Tue Dec 24, 2019 7:35 pm

or were not happy with a settled team. If all have upgraded by implication they should all be doing better.

Down_Rover · Post by **Down_Rover** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:16 am

Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:11 pm
I would suggest most (if not all) don't currently have the same regular starting XI than they had 12/18/24 months ago. We do. This would suggest they have brought in upgrades.

I fully agree they have all brought in new players...but have they improved their squads? And how much have they spent?

steve1264b · Post by **steve1264b** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 11:44 am

Alfie Mawson 20 million swansea to fulham. Many on here complaining we wouldnt meet the same terms. Played 22 times for fulham, only 7 times this season.

Che Adams 15 million 7 appearances no goals are both examples of upgrades!

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 1:01 pm

I’d take Che Adams from Saints in a cut price deal if they want him out

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 3:42 pm

Re Saints has Danny signed permanently yet
We were owed a sell on.Danny is scoring for fun but has previous form for serious injury
I am not suggesting a bid but the cash would be useful 25% of £20m was mentioned previously

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 5:10 pm

Any player signed will be a squad player, ready to cover whilst a player is either injured or suspended ,that's a fact no player no matter how good or how much he cost will displace dyches favourites when fit.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 5:20 pm

Safron wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 25, 2019 5:10 pm
Any player signed will be a squad player, ready to cover whilst a player is either injured or suspended ,that's a fact no player no matter how good or how much he cost will displace dyches favourites when fit.

That isn’t a fact and there are plenty examples to back it up. He may, with some, take time to bed them in, but it certainly doesn’t mean that a new player will only be a squad player.

Granny WeatherWax · Post by **Granny WeatherWax** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 8:07 pm

Need to be careful with the cash. Loads on here were fuming when Southampton signed Che Adams and look how that’s turned out.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 8:44 am

I'm sure SD would prefer to do his business in the summer. Personally I'm not expecting to do much this January if anything.
I think we have enough in the squad to get us through this season if we can get them all back.

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:05 am

Its one of them sticky situations as the Guardians will think we are in a fine position
And we are the other side of the coin is they know January is a more inflated market than the Summer one.
Age of our squad concerns me the most and we know its going to be some hole to fill when contracts end in the Summer
Hendrick Bardsley Hart think Lowton will be replaced Lennon maybe JBG
Thats some building and planning and we need to be warming our irons now
But its the old cliché if the deals right for Burnley then it will be done
The question is can we afford to act like a lady in waiting only to be jilted

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 10:00 am

If there is an opportunity there to bring a player in who we want to improve the squad now or for the start of next season then we should act and get them up to speed early doors. However if the fee is ridiculous then we shouldn’t entertain it. I think there are quite a lot of clubs at the moment who are treading water in the championship and are destined for mid table this season threatening neither playoffs or relegation - Hull, Birmingham, QPR being bit a few, Hull perhaps the most likely to challenge for playoffs if they can get some consistency, but my point is these clubs may not demand as crazy a few as if they were fighting relegation or challenging promotion as some of the others are.

Bowen - probably out of reach with. If clubs looking at him now.
Sunjic- Birmingham only signed him in the summer but looks a decent player.
Eze- Looks to have a bit of something about him and is finding the net orettt often for QPR, who also have another winger who’s name evades me this morning who looks a decent prospect .

All this being said I think the foreign market is the best bet on January, with a bit of luck we will have identified some targets from abroad and actively try to spread our wings and take the punt on at least one this January from off our shores!

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DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:01 am

January makes a bit of sense for us, if there is some value to be had, with Dyche seemingly taking his time to integrate players into the first XI.

Best option for us as fans is to expect nowt and then we can’t be disappointed!!

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:27 pm

If Drinkwater goes then I'd expect possibly two transfers. A midfielder as back up and push for a place. Someone like Brownhill.

And with JBG's injury problems a right sided midfielder/winger with pace.

If we don't then I think we'd struggle if any of our midfield get a long term injury.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:30 pm

Must. Contain. Link. If you don't have a link... Do. Not. Post.

Clarets in race for £15m playmaker, and face fight for Chelsea star: https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/t ... e-17473633

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:41 pm

Why do we even bother with loan deals?

We never play them and it’s a waste of money.
If we are going to pay somebody to make up numbers on the bench I’d rather it was a youngster we already had that could potentially break through

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:50 pm

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:30 pm
Must. Contain. Link. If you don't have a link... Do. Not. Post.

But it's ok for you to post without a link though earlier in the thread? Just want to make sure we all know the rules....

People are posting links to players on a football message board - do you not think posters will want to comment/discuss/debate?

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:55 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:50 pm
But it's ok for you to post without a link though earlier in the thread? Just want to make sure we all know the rules....

People are posting links to players on a football message board - do you not think posters will want to comment/discuss/debate?

Even the OP is insistent that all posts must contain a link. It’s bizarre and pointless and defies the point of a message board. What’s the point in a thread that doesn’t allow for discussion and debate?

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:58 pm

What about....

BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(TRY TO ADD LINK)

It was always, quite rightly, going to attract posters to comment and discuss.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:42 pm

Is it not possible that the links could be on here and the discussions on another thread?
I’ve set one up. See how it goes.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=43947

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:45 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:42 pm
Is it not possible that the kinks could be on here and the discussions on another thread?
I’ve set one up. See how it goes,

So when we see a link on this thread, do we link that post to the discussion we have on the discussion post?

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:57 pm

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:45 pm
So when we see a link on this thread, do we link that post to the discussion we have on the discussion post?

I’d suggest starting your discussion post by naming the player and then adding your thoughts.
These things are above my pay grade. It’s an open forum.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:31 pm

Josh Brownhill @ £15m and today, speculation on Ollie Watkins of Brentford @ £25m

Must be some outs at that rate!

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:00 pm

Jamie Hamilton

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... ilton.html

We were rumoured to be interested in him prior to the Summer window

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... ilton.html

Josh Brownhill

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/t ... e-17473633

Again, we have been linked to him previously

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/foo ... eted-62956

Club Captain, key player, having a really good season, English National, not a bad age, 2 years left on his contract, other clubs rumoured to be interested, slightly higher prices in the Winter window and selling him with Bristol on the edge of the play off places would send a clear "throwing the towel in message to their fans ".

Taking all of that into account he will command a hefty price premium in the next window and I doubt that Bristol will be eager to sell him.

Personally, I think we should have gone in for him early in the last window if he was on our wanted list. Waiting until now, when he might cost us £15m+, simply highlights the depressing naivety we demonstrated in the last window.

Joe Allen

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/f ... en-3663140

Err, no thankyou, but it is a link.

Jayden Bogle

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/t ... y-17446678

Thoughts

I think a lot of these names could be down to various media sources looking at who we have been linked to previously and re-packaging them as new content. Part of me wants to believe that, because if it isn't true then it means we are going to spend the next window chasing after transfer targets our recruitment team identified before the arrival of Rigg.

If his response to our poor Summer window ( when he was given eight months to plan, so he could pull out all the stops to impress us ) is to flick through the filing cabinet and loot the work that was done by others then what are we paying him for?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:04 pm

I'd welcome Ollie Watkins.

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:06 pm

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:04 pm
I'd welcome Ollie Watkins.

Don't really know anything about him or Brownhill at Bristol. What sort of players are they? Brentford generally seem to play some good attacking football