So what happened yesterday - you look a bit daft nowclaretspice wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:54 amIf only we had a midfielder who could run, eh, Boysie?
Never mind.
Joking apart - last night showed why we don't need to get carried away in the transfer market, and why its so difficult to improve on what we've got - but it also gave us a platform to offer players confidence they're signing up for 18 months of Premier League football. We should be taking that platform.
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Bright osayi Samuel is 22 years old,if his contract runs out would his transfer not go to a tribunal, like ings
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I appreciate you saw quite a lot of him last season but he seems to have really progressed over the last 12 months.Long Time Lurker wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:27 pmThat would leave us with two strikers until the return of Barnes and four right wingers with JBG due back soon. In terms of strikers I think it could a case of one out in this window and one out in the next.
If QPR don't have an extension for BOS then he will be leaving them for free in the Summer. The same thing would be true for Wells if we didn't have the extension that we are reputed to have. Free in six months reduces Samuels value significantly.
This season he has contributed 4 goals and 5 assists in 20 matches, which is impressive. Last season his total output was 2 goals in 27 matches with no assists, which is far less impressive. The season before that he managed to produce a paltry 1 goal and 1 assist in 18 matches. Going by goals and assists, which definitely aren't everything, this season is arguably the only decent season he has had ( although he is young ).
From the bits and bobs I've seen of him ( which I have to say was more last season than this ) I don't think he is anything special, but he probably does have some potential and he appears to have demonstrated signs of improvement.
Would he link up better with Barnes and Wood, in comparison to a player like Nahki who gets about more, I doubt it.
Is his performance this season entirely down to him or does it have more to do with the influence of other players in the QPR squad ?
Rightly or wrongly, strikers command a price premium In this window. Wells performed well for QPR last season and he has stepped it up another notch this season. With very few options available, Wells is the striker on every Championship clubs lips at the moment. That makes Nahki a lot more valuable than BOS.
Well is also a consistent performer with a very enviable scoring reputation at Championship level over multiple seasons.
The deciding factor in terms of any potential trade for Wells is that our most pressing need is for a central midfielder, not a right winger. Warburton seems like a decent bloke, but if our current requirements mean that we have to drop him in the **** so be it. It isn't a nice thing to do, because QPR have kept up their end of the loan bargain. However, our poor performance in the Summer transfer window has put us in a delicate position that precludes charitable considerations.
I know one games is not enough to judge a player but watch the highlights of QPR vs Leeds from the other week. He was by far there best player.
Just a quick search on twitter, most fans are saying he is on par with Eze this season.
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He is only 21 or 22 so won't go for free. Think they have to be 23 before they can just walk
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I assumed we are looking for cash(£5m?) For Nahki so a swop would suit QPR and our deep pockets board
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Wasn't Roger Eli initially signed as a centre half? Cult hero status awaitsDevils_Advocate wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:13 pmKevin Long????? He proved yesterday he's definitely not a defender so could be the new Peter Crouch
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Right back I think and i'm sure he got stuck up front in a cup tie that was at the 2nd or 3rd replay. The rest as they say is history.JohnDearyMe wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:51 pmWasn't Roger Eli initially signed as a centre half? Cult hero status awaits
On a side note for those on here that despise the diving cheats of the modern game Eli was revered amongst the Burnley fans for his ability to con the ref and win us a penalty
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Scunthorpe at home. Remember a t shirt of him being sold outside the ground not long after! Imagine what today’s foreign managers would make of 2nd and 3rd replays!Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:57 pmRight back I think and i'm sure he got stuck up front in a cup tie that was at the 2nd or 3rd replay. The rest as they say is history.
On a side note for those on here that despise the diving cheats of the modern game Eli was revered amongst the Burnley fans for his ability to con the ref and win us a penalty
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Eli started as a midfielder for us.
I think he then played in a couple of different positions in defence before going up front.
Plays for Burnley Vets and I played against him and he was much shorter than my memory of him when I was a young lad watching him.
He was a top bloke to talk to after the game too. He loved it at Burnley.
I think he then played in a couple of different positions in defence before going up front.
Plays for Burnley Vets and I played against him and he was much shorter than my memory of him when I was a young lad watching him.
He was a top bloke to talk to after the game too. He loved it at Burnley.
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Still astounding that with only a few days of the window left we haven’t added to our fragile squad. Astounding but not surprising.
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Given how long he has been with QPR ( not long ), what they paid for him and what his current value might conceivably be, any compensation payment is more likely to be fairly trivial. Compensation tends to be more when a fixed offer has established a players value in the market or when a club has developed them from their own youth squads up.
However, it could transpire that QPR have an option to extend his contract. Either way, I think that we can do better than him and another right wing option wouldn't be of much use to us in the few months.
Losing Wells wouldn't be that tough on QPR either. They are currently lodged in a mid table placing. The confidence of their keeper, Lumley, seems like it is completely shot though. That has turned him into an ongoing liability and probably put paid to their promotion push. The number of goals they are conceeding must be a cause of concern for them. On the upside they have a healthy 14 point gap between themselves and the relegation clubs.
Recalling Wells and selling him to another club would make their job more difficult, but I can't see it having a huge impact on their promotion/relegation outcome for the season.
Nods, everything could have suddenly clicked for him this season and his development could have taken a huge leap forward. In the same way that the playing ability of Lumley seems to have gone backwards since I saw him previously.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:38 pmI appreciate you saw quite a lot of him last season but he seems to have really progressed over the last 12 months.
I know one games is not enough to judge a player but watch the highlights of QPR vs Leeds from the other week. He was by far there best player.
Just a quick search on twitter, most fans are saying he is on par with Eze this season.
I've only see a few of partial QPR matches this season ( checking in on Wells ) so I couldn't say.
I would still rather have £5-6m in the bank or a player like Brownhill coming our way. Bristol also looks like a much healthier destination for Wells, because QPR are still recovering from the damage that Hughes and Rigg did to them a few years ago, followed by the up and down era of Redknapp.
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What gets me is that we havent heard of any pro-active transfer moves being made for players. All of the current news about incomings seems to revolve around other clubs being interested in Wells, which has generated some speculative rumours in terms of possible player swaps.Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:55 pmStill astounding that with only a few days of the window left we haven’t added to our fragile squad. Astounding but not surprising.
Take everything that is related to Nahki Wells out of the equation and our transfer strategy of doing absolutely nothing in this window seems to have been followed without any deviation whatsoever.
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Dyche was asked if any signings were likely the other day to which he simply replied “No”. He said exactly the same at the start of January.Long Time Lurker wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:31 pmWhat gets me is that we havent heard of any pro-active transfer moves being made for players. All of the current news about incomings seems to revolve around other clubs being interested in Wells, which has generated some speculative rumours in terms of possible player swaps.
Take everything that is related to Nahki Wells out of the equation and our transfer strategy of doing absolutely nothing in this window seems to have been followed without any deviation whatsoever.
It really does beggars belief. The squad needs freshening up, even the most ardent of happy clapper can see that.
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He never said that the club were not trying to get something done - just that he believed nothing could get done given the position/expectations of selling clubs(frustrating for all including him and the board I believe) - nothing happy clappy about thatGranny WeatherWax wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:39 pmDyche was asked if any signings were likely the other day to which he simply replied “No”. He said exactly the same at the start of January.
It really does beggars belief. The squad needs freshening up, even the most ardent of happy clapper can see that.
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Frustrating? It’s their job, one suggests they need to have a look at how to do things on the signing front if we find it impossible to add to a fragile squad.Chester Perry wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:43 pmHe never said that the club were not trying to get something done - just that he believed nothing could get done (frustrating for all including him and the board I believe) - nothing happy clappy about that
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It is also the job of the people we are trying to buy from to do the best for their club - some you win some you lose occasionally you all agree and no one else comes along to interfere and challenge the status quo - I think of it as a high pressure property market with gazumpers willing to push things to a level you will not go to or people pricing at such a level - you may say reduce your expectations but evidence of this thread and others would suggest there are plenty who would be upset by thatGranny WeatherWax wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:45 pmFrustrating? It’s their job, one suggests they need to have a look at how to do things on the signing front if we find it impossible to add to a fragile squad.
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It’s been a very quiet window altogether. When the yellow ties come out on Sky it starts hotting up.Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:55 pmStill astounding that with only a few days of the window left we haven’t added to our fragile squad. Astounding but not surprising.
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Maybe we need to start taking renting a bit more serious.Chester Perry wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:55 pmIt is also the job of the people we are trying to buy from to do the best for their club - some you win some you lose occasionally you all agree and no one else comes along to interfere and challenge the status quo - I think of it as a high pressure property market with gazumpers willing to push things to a level you will not go to or people pricing at such a level - you may say reduce your expectations but evidence of this thread and others would suggest there are plenty who would be upset by that
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But we know it won’t for Burnley which is astonishing.Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:01 pmIt’s been a very quiet window altogether. When the yellow ties come out on Sky it starts hotting up.
In summer we will need a right back, right winger and at least 1 centre mid but maybe 2 if Hendrick leaves.
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we ha certainly paid some serious rent for little return - however hopeful we were at the time - it does put you off the ideaGranny WeatherWax wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:02 pmMaybe we need to start taking renting a bit more serious.
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Just watching the Hearts v Rangers game Rangers brought a cracking midfielder on at half time.....Arfield he's called maybe we should go for him this transfer window,still cant get my head around why we didn't give him the contract he wanted when he was here...
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In all fairness we haven't been gazumped by anyone. Unless you consider Conor Gallagher going to a different club on loan, amidst our rumoured interest, as being gazumped.Chester Perry wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:55 pmIt is also the job of the people we are trying to buy from to do the best for their club - some you win some you lose occasionally you all agree and no one else comes along to interfere and challenge the status quo - I think of it as a high pressure property market with gazumpers willing to push things to a level you will not go to or people pricing at such a level - you may say reduce your expectations but evidence of this thread and others would suggest there are plenty who would be upset by that
In terms of our expectations I don't think we can lower them anymore. The vast majority on here don't ask for much at all and our expectations are never noticeably outlandish. When you look at other clubs the expectations of the people on this board are very modest and very realistic.
In most cases that amounts to the bare minimum to get the job done, providing cover for the unexpected, and showing a degree of financial awareness that won't put the club in jeopardy.
If the club ever announced they were signing a £30m player I think the local emergency wards would be swamped with patients in catatonic shock and those that rode the shock wave would probably be asking questions. £20m would raise more eye brows than a botox clinic.
We don't ask for much, but more than nothing is a reasonable expectations on the back of two poor transfer windows.
The Summer window was particularly disappointing, because we gave Rigg an entire year to prepare for it, by actively choosing to do nothing in the last Winter window. We have work that needs to be done, spots that need to be filled and changes that need to be made. At the moment we look incapable of doing that.
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Are we ever going to improve the first eleven in midfield, maybe a reporter should ask the question to the man himself
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I suspect we are waiting to see what we get in cash or equivalent for Nakhi Wells and or Vydra. Until that is done, I doubt we will go for Brownhill or anyone else if we intend to. We also seem as a matter of policy to leave our offers till the last couple of days. I'm still hopeful.
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I would really hope we do it the other way around, i.e. sign first, sell later. Or we risk leaving ourselves short if we can't get players in. Not many clubs who choose to sell first then risk getting players in after that. Especially when time is running out.COBBLE wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:41 pmI suspect we are waiting to see what we get in cash or equivalent for Nakhi Wells and or Vydra. Until that is done, I doubt we will go for Brownhill or anyone else if we intend to. We also seem as a matter of policy to leave our offers till the last couple of days. I'm still hopeful.
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If we are relying on what money we can generate from Wells and Vydra some serious questions need asking.COBBLE wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:41 pmI suspect we are waiting to see what we get in cash or equivalent for Nakhi Wells and or Vydra. Until that is done, I doubt we will go for Brownhill or anyone else if we intend to. We also seem as a matter of policy to leave our offers till the last couple of days. I'm still hopeful.
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So much is made of the £100 million coming our way every season spent in the Premier League, but seemingly in order to be able to move in the transfer market we need to sell Nakhi Wells first.
So much for having the blueprint for surviving in the Premier League.
Several windows have opened and closed where very limited business has been done and that was illustrated by the lack of depth in our first team squad yesterday.
So much for having the blueprint for surviving in the Premier League.
Several windows have opened and closed where very limited business has been done and that was illustrated by the lack of depth in our first team squad yesterday.
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Comparing goal return of a wide player and a striker is a little strange though, he’s definitely not a striker.Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:54 pmHe has played there but it's not an exclusive position of his. He's also played as a 10 and up front for Hull this season.
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I can see that COBBLE has said this but has this come from the Club? Wait, you're not basing this solely on COBBLE's opinion are you?kentonclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:03 pmSo much is made of the £100 million coming our way every season spent in the Premier League, but seemingly in order to be able to move in the transfer market we need to sell Nakhi Wells first.
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Omg What do you expect him to say? “We’re desperate for players... the squad is ****. Bend us over, selling clubs, and spank us hard”???Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:39 pmDyche was asked if any signings were likely the other day to which he simply replied “No”. He said exactly the same at the start of January.
It really does beggars belief. The squad needs freshening up, even the most ardent of happy clapper can see that.
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You do realise we are still in the premier league right?kentonclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:03 pmSo much for having the blueprint for surviving in the Premier League.
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Yes but not for long unless we make some signings in this transfer window - according to quite a lot of people on here, amusingly.PremierLeagueClass wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:53 pmYou do realise we are still in the premier league right?
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No - I can't be bothered either. I've seen numerous people claim that if we don't strengthen in January then we will be relegated.Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:12 pmShow me the posts where people have said that. I can’t be bothered going through the entire thread.
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Well we cant be relegated now as we are out of the cup.
Cant advance in the cup and stay in the league apparently, glad we chose the league though, my season ticket will be frozen AGAIN.
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The more I read about Bright Samuel, the more I like. This would be a great signing.
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Which part of the wage bill are you not understanding?kentonclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:03 pmSo much is made of the £100 million coming our way every season spent in the Premier League, but seemingly in order to be able to move in the transfer market we need to sell Nakhi Wells first.
So much for having the blueprint for surviving in the Premier League.
Several windows have opened and closed where very limited business has been done and that was illustrated by the lack of depth in our first team squad yesterday.
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Burnley preparing a bid for Harold Moukoudi the 20 year old CB at St Etienne.
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Leeds, Derby and WBA also reportedly interested.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:33 pmBurnley preparing a bid for Harold Moukoudi the 20 year old CB at St Etienne.
Also, loan only.
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‘Preparing’ means Clive Holt firing up the fax machine.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:33 pmBurnley preparing a bid for Harold Moukoudi the 20 year old CB at St Etienne.
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I seem to recall that we’ve been linked with this guy in the past....if he comes in then I’d assume this is a loan with a set price fixed for the summer if he impresses whilst here. It’d also mean Gibson leaving too as we have cover then in place.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:33 pmBurnley preparing a bid for Harold Moukoudi the 20 year old CB at St Etienne.
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Assuming neither Tarks or Mee leave in this window,how many 1st team games is this lad going to play,or is he a development squad signing,Gibson was signed for 15m and was highly rated at the time,and he's hardly kicked a ball in anger for 18 months,so i somehow can't see SD throwing a 20 year old kid into our first XI,that said i'd rather we picked up younger talent which we might develop,with a view to either playing them regularly or selling at a profit down the line,then cast-offs from Stoke,that are past their prime.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:33 pmBurnley preparing a bid for Harold Moukoudi the 20 year old CB at St Etienne.
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Link for that:Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:33 pmBurnley preparing a bid for Harold Moukoudi the 20 year old CB at St Etienne.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/footb ... i-21365535
Not buying it personally, seems like the standard 3-4 club agent link
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Moukoudi is 22