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Post by Mala591 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:44 am

Wells has obviously worked hard at QPR and appears to have got his career back on track. He will be looking for a two and a half year deal and seems open to a move to any Championship club. Looks like the highest bidder will secure his signature.

Good luck to the lad.

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Post by Long Time Lurker » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:54 am

Down_Rover wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:33 am
Looks to me that we recalled Wells simply because QPR cannot pay a fee for him
Nods, QPR would be hard pressed to cover his wages, never mind put a respectable cash bid on the table for him. Over the last three seasons their incomings have been limited to loans, free transfers and a couple of small fee players.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/queens-pa ... erein/1039

They have managed to raise some cash with players sales in the last two windows, but I suspect a big chunk of that will have gone towards paying their running costs.

Anything over a couple of million would probably stretch them to breaking point and Wells is currently worth a lot more than that.

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Post by jojomk1 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:28 pm

claretandy wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:03 am
Wells recalled....
He will be like a new signing ;)

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Post by quoonbeatz » Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:36 pm

More like us to sign Ronald O'Vieira.

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Post by TVC15 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:56 pm

QPR were never going to be able to afford Wells.
This is the club that has already broken FFP. The club who gave Joey Barton a 4 year deal on £75k a week without a relegation clause...so pretty nailed on they didn’t bother with similar clauses for any other players.
This is also the club who under Warnock and Redknapp had managers who shall we say were a little unconventional in the way they signed players (anyone who attended the Joey Barton Q & A will know what he said about Colin)

They are one of many financially basket case clubs in the Championship - luckily for us there are other clubs out there who want Wells so we should be ok to get a decent fee or use him in a player swap - and i think that’s what will happen this week.

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Post by Firthy » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:04 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:28 pm
He will be like a new signing ;)
He'll need to be because we won't be getting anyone else :shock: :lol:

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Post by NickBFC » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:14 pm

williamjblazkowicz wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:50 am
Excerpt from David Ornstein article on The Athletic re Sampdoria central midfielder Ronaldo Vieira:

Another club monitoring Vieira closely are Burnley, who sent their senior scout Ian Butterworth to the match. Butterworth has now watched Vieira on a number of occasions but Burnley are not expected to move for him in this window.
Ronaldo Vieira - A quality goal scoring wide/forward player, and that elusive box to box central midfielder all rolled into one. Just what we've been looking for! I bet we sign him, the board would surely snap two players up for the price of one :D

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Post by claret2018 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:03 pm

Looking forward to the threads in 2 years time slagging off Vieira/Brownhill for clearly not being Premier league quality, or slagging off Dyche for not playing them.
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Post by houseboy » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:18 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:08 am
A good few club's after him, West ham and Aston villa just to name two English clubs we are up against so we have no chance, if it was Wigan and Accrington Stanley instead we might of stood half a chance, fake news move on.
Mail report says that Villa are out of the running after signing Drinkwater. They do make a lot about him being ex-Rovers after him being linked with us.

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Post by creepingdeath » Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:06 pm

Nixon

Watford. Taking a big interest in Ben Gibson at Burnley. More online later.

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Post by jrgbfc » Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:09 pm

creepingdeath wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:06 pm
Nixon

Watford. Taking a big interest in Ben Gibson at Burnley. More online later.
I'd be amazed if we let him go to a rival this month. This summer maybe.

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Post by creepingdeath » Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:12 pm

SSN

WATFORD'S GIBSON LOAN DEAL REJECTED

Watford have had a loan offer for defender Ben Gibson turned down by Burnley.

The offer included an option to buy in the summer. Gibson, 27, has made one appearance this season.

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Post by jedi_master » Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:14 pm

creepingdeath wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:06 pm
Nixon

Watford. Taking a big interest in Ben Gibson at Burnley. More online later.
Might be able to get our cash back or near enough if it’s a Prem team in January.

Get him, Wells and Vydra sold - it doesn’t weaken us as they never play. Granted if we get injuries they MIGHT get a chance but even then I think Dyche would be more likely to change the formation to avoid starting them, or picking Long who seems to be ahead of Gibson.

If we manage to get 5m for Wells, 12m or so for Gibson and perhaps 8m for Vydra and bring in a central midfielder and winger I’ll be happy with this window. This type of clear out puts us in a better position to replace these in the summer as well.
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Post by jedi_master » Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:15 pm

creepingdeath wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:12 pm
SSN

WATFORD'S GIBSON LOAN DEAL REJECTED

Watford have had a loan offer for defender Ben Gibson turned down by Burnley.

The offer included an option to buy in the summer. Gibson, 27, has made one appearance this season.
I can only assume we want a sale or obligation (rather than option) to buy in the summer?

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Post by MACCA » Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:22 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:15 pm
I can only assume we want a sale or obligation (rather than option) to buy in the summer?
This

We will want a guarantee of cash coming in so we can sort a replacement.

If he is off, he's off. We dont want clauses in it that means we could be stuck with 2 high earning back up CB come summer...

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Post by ecc » Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:26 pm

"...he seems ok but he does the crazy jesse lingard dances and hand shakes"

Not being dancing too often this season.

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:33 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:15 pm
I can only assume we want a sale or obligation (rather than option) to buy in the summer?
What planet are they on. As though, we're going to loan a centre half to a competing club.

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Post by bobinho » Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:36 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:14 pm
Might be able to get our cash back or near enough if it’s a Prem team in January.

Get him, Wells and Vydra sold - it doesn’t weaken us as they never play. Granted if we get injuries they MIGHT get a chance but even then I think Dyche would be more likely to change the formation to avoid starting them, or picking Long who seems to be ahead of Gibson.

If we manage to get 5m for Wells, 12m or so for Gibson and perhaps 8m for Vydra and bring in a central midfielder and winger I’ll be happy with this window. This type of clear out puts us in a better position to replace these in the summer as well.
To sell Gibson in this window weakens us massively. If either of Mee or Tarks picks up an injury, people on here would be SCREAMING about another disastrous window. Tbh, I’d only be happy with one of the other two you mention leaving this month. Barnes out for a while and we have no one really ready to step in up top if we get an injury crisis in that position also.

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Post by jedi_master » Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:38 pm

bobinho wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:36 pm
To sell Gibson in this window weakens us massively. If either of Mee or Tarks picks up an injury, people on here would be SCREAMING about another disastrous window. Tbh, I’d only be happy with one of the other two you mention leaving this month. Barnes out for a while and we have no one really ready to step in up top if we get an injury crisis in that position also.
I see what you’re saying but I think if Wood or Rodriguez got injured or suspended Dyche would undoubtedly change to a 4-5-1 as opposed to starting either Vydra or Wells. I think the time has more than come to get them off the wage bill - and I never expected us to recoup good money but looks like we will.
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Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:38 pm

bobinho wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:36 pm
To sell Gibson in this window weakens us massively. If either of Mee or Tarks picks up an injury, people on here would be SCREAMING about another disastrous window. Tbh, I’d only be happy with one of the other two you mention leaving this month. Barnes out for a while and we have no one really ready to step in up top if we get an injury crisis in that position also.
But if Mee and Tarks don't get an injury, that means some posters can say we should have sold him, as he wasn't going to be needed :D
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Post by ClaretAndBlue94 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:40 pm

Surely we cant end up a CB (Gibson) and CM (Drinkwater) down and not replace either. Can we... :lol:

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:41 pm

QPRs financial noose might allow us to send Wells and some cash back for Eze. What I’ve seen off him he’d be ideal if McNeil was to leave in the Summer. I’m hoping not so just a thought.

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Post by jrgbfc » Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:42 pm

How about loaning Gibson to a Chanpionship side but we have the option of recalling him at any time? That way he gets to play some football and if Mee or Tarks get injured he can step in and be match fit, rather than having barely played for 18 months.

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Post by taio » Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:44 pm

No way we should be doing a deal with Watford.

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Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:44 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:42 pm
How about loaning Gibson to a Chanpionship side but we have the option of recalling him at any time? That way he gets to play some football and if Mee or Tarks get injured he can step in and be match fit, rather than having barely played for 18 months.
If he gets a lengthy injury, we won't be able to sell him. We may as well keep him here as backup, unless a side wants to buy him.

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Post by MACCA » Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:45 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:42 pm
How about loaning Gibson to a Chanpionship side but we have the option of recalling him at any time? That way he gets to play some football and if Mee or Tarks get injured he can step in and be match fit, rather than having barely played for 18 months.

You cant recall players after the windows closed.

Think that rule changed a while back.

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Post by TVC15 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:52 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:42 pm
How about loaning Gibson to a Chanpionship side but we have the option of recalling him at any time? That way he gets to play some football and if Mee or Tarks get injured he can step in and be match fit, rather than having barely played for 18 months.
Because no championship side would agree to that - too much risk and if we did recall it could ruin their chances and they would be able to not doing anything about it in terms of bringing in a new player.
If any club did offer a deal like that then I'm sure we would have taken it.

Loan with an obligation to buy in summer is best deal for everyone. Selling him to a relegation rival though I'm not sure but if we do get a good offer which mean we can invest in new players then even if it is a relegation rival overall I think we should / would sell.

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Post by summitclaret » Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:57 pm

Even with our track record of taking unnecessary risks in January, surely we aren't going to try and go with just 3 Cbs and/or 3 Cms.

Course it would be great to get something like our money back on Gibbo and Vydra, but we just can't take the risk if no replacements come in.

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:00 pm

We have Kev Long and Jimmy Dunne as cb cover
We never needed Gibson in the first place
Get him sold on Andre + cash for Gibson ?

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:03 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:25 am
Re transfers expect none and you won't be disappointed
Sean always said he cant see us getting anyone in
No one seems to hear that!.....EVER.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:16 pm

Jimmy Dunne ?... in the Premier League ??

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:18 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:00 pm
We have Kev Long and Jimmy Dunne as cb cover
We never needed Gibson in the first place
I think you missed the smiley wink emoji off.....
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Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:23 pm

If Long was PL quality and the fact he is a full International, given his lack of game time I would have expected a Championship team to have come in for him over the last few years - maybe they have and he didn't fancy it or maybe he isn't good enough. He's had decent games for us but has been equally poor....

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Post by agreenwood » Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:25 pm

The prospect of selling Gibson & relying on Long as cover is terrifying.
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Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:26 pm

Have you seen Gibson play? Kev apart from Saturday has put on some decent performances Gibson's cameo v Sunderland was awful

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Post by Murger » Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:28 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:26 pm
Have you seen Gibson play? Kev apart from Saturday has put on some decent performances Gibson's cameo v Sunderland was awful
Gibson was Boro's stand out performer in the PL, which earned him 3 England call-ups. So yes, I'd say he's good enough.
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Post by agreenwood » Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:31 pm

I have yeah. He’s not as good as Mee, but he’s a big improvement on Long.
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Post by TVC15 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:42 pm

Murger wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:28 pm
Gibson was Boro's stand out performer in the PL, which earned him 3 England call-ups. So yes, I'd say he's good enough.
Phil Jones was probably picked for the same squad !
3 years is a long time - he’s had injuries and just not played enough football since then.
I thought he was a great signing at the time as he was a very good player at Boro and always played well against us.
£15m at the time looked value to me for what we were getting.
But it hasn’t worked out for him or us and whilst you don’t become a bad player overnight it is pretty common for players to become average players over 3 years !

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Post by rob63 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:51 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:45 pm
‘Preparing’ means Clive Holt firing up the fax machine.
Don't you mean winding up? It is still clockwork, isn't it?

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Post by rob63 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:54 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:33 pm
Burnley preparing a bid for Harold Moukoudi the 20 year old CB at St Etienne.
We were supposedly interested in him before he left Le Havre....... sure he went on a free then.

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Post by ralphc » Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:05 pm

summitclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:57 pm
Even with our track record of taking unnecessary risks in January, surely we aren't going to try and go with just 3 Cbs and/or 3 Cms.

Course it would be great to get something like our money back on Gibbo and Vydra, but we just can't take the risk if no replacements come in.
Technically it would be down to two centre half’s as Long isn’t fit to get a game for Padiham never mind in the Premier league.

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Post by jojomk1 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:10 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:25 pm
The prospect of selling Gibson & relying on Long as cover is terrifying.
Given his performance on Sat you have to just shake your head at such a thought
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Post by rob63 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:11 pm

1HappyClaret wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:26 am
David Ornstein (The Athletic) has linked us with Ronald Vieira. England U21 currently at Sampdoria. West Hsm also linked.
He was a good player at Leeds but seems to have lost his way in Italy. Seen 4 Sampdoria matches this season but don't remember him playing

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:11 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:42 pm
Phil Jones was probably picked for the same squad !
3 years is a long time - he’s had injuries and just not played enough football since then.
I thought he was a great signing at the time as he was a very good player at Boro and always played well against us.
£15m at the time looked value to me for what we were getting.
But it hasn’t worked out for him or us and whilst you don’t become a bad player overnight it is pretty common for players to become average players over 3 years !
I happen to think that Phil Jones would be a good player in a team like ours. He’s not good enough for Man United but he’d be fine in our set up.

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Post by claretcarrot93 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:12 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:42 pm
Phil Jones was probably picked for the same squad !
3 years is a long time - he’s had injuries and just not played enough football since then.
I thought he was a great signing at the time as he was a very good player at Boro and always played well against us.
£15m at the time looked value to me for what we were getting.
But it hasn’t worked out for him or us and whilst you don’t become a bad player overnight it is pretty common for players to become average players over 3 years !
Phil Jones is far better than Long as well. That was the point.

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Post by rob63 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:14 pm

Grumps wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:56 am
When fit, drinkwater was on the bench, now replaced with untried youth player, so definitely weaker, plus we don't know how long Barnes will be out, so for me no argument it's weaker
Yes, we'd deffo have been weaker if Drinkwater was to have got on the pitch :D

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:16 pm

Phil Jones is complete shite

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Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Post by TVC15 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:21 pm

claretcarrot93 wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:12 pm
Phil Jones is far better than Long as well. That was the point.
The point was (partly in ridicule) was that 3 years is a long time ago to use being picked for England as a basis that someone is a good player today.
I said Phil Jones for obvious reasons - and yes he would probably be good for us and he’s a better player than we give him credit for - it’s just funny to see how calamitous he tends to be and his tendency to land square on his nose !!
Someone like Nathaniel Clyne is a more sensible comparison. One minute in the England squad - then injuries and not playing because better players are in front of you and your career can go downhill pretty quickly. Remember these guys are on the bench - but rarely come on or don’t make the bench because they are not game changers and they don’t play reserve team football. They go from being the star player / captain at their old clubs playing every week to all of a sudden getting one or 2 games a season.

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Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Post by NewClaret » Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:22 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:16 pm
Phil Jones is complete shite
Agreed. Said on here a few months ago that when he plays it’s like giving the opposition a 2 goal lead.... the look what happened!

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