“I let the side down”

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:08 pm

PR adviser who resigned has been vindicated this morning.

https://news.sky.com/story/prince-andre ... y-11862902

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:59 pm

Hes a royal b@st@rd in more then one way.
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evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:17 pm

I have no time for the Royals but there's some breathtaking hypocrisy on here.

Corky · Post by **Corky** » Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:23 pm

I think the one conclusion that we can all draw from this debacle is that Air Miles Andy is both arrogant and a liar.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:32 pm

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:Yes, the way he waves and opens shopping centres is a sight to behold, to think we could be building hospitals instead of paying these parasites to do nothing by virtue of being born into wealth and power.

I thought you lived in Spain?

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:33 pm

Think it might be time for old Lillibet to arrange another car crash, and I'm not talking about this interview.

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:51 pm

ksrclaret wrote:Think it might be time for old Lillibet to arrange another car crash, and I'm not talking about this interview.

Whoa ksr !!! The stocks for you mi lad.

That's another can of worms altogether.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:05 pm

If I was Emily Maitlis I’d be watching my back now....

Great interview tbh, really allowed him to hang himself...you could see what she thought of him for sure

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:51 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:The “allegation” is that the girl was 16, however distasteful that might be, why would William and Harry be worried about their children?

Presumed she was 17 but 18 age of consent in the US state where one of the alleged rogerings took place ?Let’s face it which red blooded male in his 30’s ( I think randy was late 30’s?) wouldn’t sort out that totty . I’ve little doubt Randy “performed“ but she’s desperately grubbing for money and being cited as a “ pathological liar” didn’t help her case when yank judge threw it out as nonsense

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:00 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:Presumed she was 17 but 18 age of consent in the US state where one of the alleged rogerings took place ?Let’s face it which red blooded male in his 30’s ( I think randy was late 30’s?) wouldn’t sort out that totty . I’ve little doubt Randy “performed“ but she’s desperately grubbing for money and being cited as a “ pathological liar” didn’t help her case when yank judge threw it out as nonsense

Quite a few men with morals wouldn't go near somebody so much younger then themselves especially when they are being paid by your friend.

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:00 pm

With the recent negative publicity regarding Meghan and Harry it was important that Andrew stepped up to the plate to re-affirm his position as the most unpopular Royal

Good job Andrew, still number 1

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:07 pm

bfcjg wrote:Quite a few men with morals wouldn't go near somebody so much younger then themselves especially when they are being paid by your friend.

And herein lies the crux of the matter . If Randy new it was some paid for brass then it becomes a little more sleazy and if he had sex in a country where he was breaking the law via statutory rape he’s either incredibly stupid or staggeringly naive , neither of which I’d imagine he is

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:48 pm

bfcjg wrote:Quite a few men with morals wouldn't go near somebody so much younger then themselves especially when they are being paid by your friend.

Clearly Andy doesn't have a moral compass,i believe the colloquial phrase is jailbait.

Volvoclaret · Post by **Volvoclaret** » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:13 pm

Just as an aside IMO Fergie knows what's gone on and that why he keeps bailing her out financially.

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:46 pm

Where are the UTC "bring back hanging" advocates on this?

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:55 pm

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:Where are the UTC "bring back hanging" advocates on this?

I wonder if they’ll just settle for him having his Crown Jewels removed?

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:01 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:I wonder if they’ll just settle for him having his Crown Jewels removed?

I'd hate them to be exposed as lying, hypocritcal bullshitters.

The good thing is that when the "bring back hanging" threads rear their ugly heads again we have a prime contender to suggest.

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:27 pm

Doesn't sweat apparently, proof that they are indeed the reptile people?

David Icke don't seem so daft now, eh!

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:35 pm

Anhidrosis

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bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:19 am

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:Where are the UTC "bring back hanging" advocates on this?

Hang all paedophiles regardless of status.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:39 am

What have Prince Andrew and Margaret Thatcher got in common?

The both shafted miners.

Thank you. I’m here all week.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:55 am

At least he is not a Claret.

Volvoclaret · Post by **Volvoclaret** » Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:08 am

Blackburn fan, apparently

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:53 pm

I'd heard that!

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:02 pm

Volvoclaret wrote:Blackburn fan, apparently

He should have used that in his defence!

“Being a lifelong Blackburn fan, it is impossible that I was having sex with a young woman.....I prefer donkeys and horses!”

What an ass!

People all round Blackburn nodding, saying “He’s got a point”

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:47 am

Joking aside, the statements coming from the Royals and the Prime Minister on this issue are appalling.

If Prince Andrew has nothing to hide, the interview was completely unnecessary. A simple statement from Buckingham Palace that said the Prince denies these allegations and to assert his innocence and support the victims of his former friend Jeffery Epstein, he will be travelling the USA to assist the FBI's investigation in any way that he can.

Any action other than that suggests involvement and shows that the people that are the heads of our society have absolutely no concern for anyone but themselves.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:15 am

You seem surprised.

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:05 am

evensteadiereddie wrote:You seem surprised.

That so many posters stayed in on a Saturday night to watch this or that people are that bothered?

Corky · Post by **Corky** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:38 am

I suppose they could always strip him of his Duke of York title and give him the Duke of Windsor one and then ship him off to the Bahamas.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:36 am

Burnley Ace wrote:That so many posters stayed in on a Saturday night to watch this or that people are that bothered?

I stay in most Saturday nights ........ and Friday nights and every other night to be honest. Must be an age thing. Saw the interview on Sunday morning. He's more odious and arrogant than I imagined and that was with a mediocre journalist asking the questions. A Ranvir Singh style interview of the female Salford MP(Hazel Blears was it?) from a few years back was the way to go at people like him. And why was it done in the middle of a corridor?

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:47 am

Silkyskills1 wrote:I stay in most Saturday nights ........ and Friday nights and every other night to be honest. Must be an age thing. Saw the interview on Sunday morning. He's more odious and arrogant than I imagined and that was with a mediocre journalist asking the questions. A Ranvir Singh style interview of the female Salford MP(Hazel Blears was it?) from a few years back was the way to go at people like him. And why was it done in the middle of a corridor?

There will have been a thorough briefing / strict guidelines as to what the BBC could ask / discuss. If she would have over stepped their mark it would have been stopped or cut out all together. It’s wrong but that’s the way it is.

But the good thing is that this rehearsed / scripted attempt by him to bring a close to the matter has backfired massively. Who would have thought that he can take the Election and Brexit off the front page ? Thank goodness for the arrogance and stupidity of the royal family because now this thing is just going to build more and more momentum.

In the olden days they would have cut off his head by now -but at least now it’s clear that this is going to ruin his privileged life and it will not be long before the rest of the royal family quickly distance themselves from having anything to do with him. There is no way he can carry on with any of his previous royal duties and there will be a lot of pressure on Scotland Yard to re-open the case and work with the US authorities without this time intervention from the the royal family trying to sweep it under the carpet.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:53 pm

The photos published by sky last night showing him sweating leaving a night club in the same period when he said he couldnt sweat was quite daming.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:01 pm

We’ll soon be finding whether he sweats or not

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:08 pm

"""In the olden days they'd have cut his head off by now"""

head??

claret54 · Post by **claret54** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:37 pm

bfcjg wrote:They were getting paid to have sex with men I think that makes it prostitution.

No. Prostitutes willingly sell sex. But these girls were trafficked and forced into sex.Means they were raped. There is a difference .That's the big issue Andrew faces.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:57 pm

I'm awaiting the FACTS that may or may not appear on this. I am not yet going to declare him 'guilty' of anything until there is evidence either way, it's no use jumping to conclusions. A lot of this depends on which side of the 'royalty' fence you sit. I am a totally committed anti-royal and that is the reason why I am being cautious because it would be easy to say he is guilty by virtue of being a royal. Similarly those of the pro-royal persuasion must be cautious of defending him because he is a royal. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence and of course he doesn't do himself any favours in interviews. There is a claim from a girl in the US that may or may not be true but as we know, especially these days, where there is a buck or two to be made and fame to be earned people will make things up and have done so in the past. And then there is the association with Epstein. That doesn't look good but you cannot be guilty by association (given the number of criminals I have known in the past that would put me in awful trouble). But the fact he is a royal should not in any way hamper any investigation into all this either, after all royalty the world over and for hundreds of years have not been noted for their sexual introversion or high moral standards.

Let the legal process take it's course in an objective and measured way and see what comes out in the wash because he is being accused of a particularly nasty crime and no-one, not even a royal, should have to undergo that if it isn't true because it always sticks whatever the outcome. However if he is proved to be guilty then his being a royal should not stop him from feeling the full force of the law. Unfortunately in that respect I'm afraid I don't really trust the powers that be too much, but then I might be being a bit cynical there.

Claret Toni · Post by **Claret Toni** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:51 pm

I'm not sure this is about whether Prince Andrew had relations, shall we say, with the girls at his mates house.

What, I believe, this is about is his inability to show any sympathy for the victims of his paedophile mate, his inability to even acknowledge his paedophile mate did anything wrong (statutory rate = unbecoming) and his inability to even acknowledge that he regretted the friendship (the opportunities I was given to learn were actually very useful).

Had he come out and said something along the lines of Yes he was my mate, but when I found out he was a paedophile I was sick to the stomach and my heart went out to the victims. But he didn't and his actions didn't support that thought process - clearing off to see him to terminate their friendship over the course of several days and staying at his mate's house while he did so; and the Prince called it the honourable way.

Of course a phone call - Jeff, you perverted *******, I regret the day we met. I don't ever want to see you again, was another way.

At best he's just too stupid to understand what he's doing.

Just my opinion, of course.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:07 pm

Just watched the interview. Some of the most cringeworthy tv I’ve seen. A poster hit the nail on the head with ‘toe curling’. So far out of touch with reality, Why on earth would anyone stay at a known sex offenders house ? Even Tim nice but dim wouldn’t.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:30 pm

Stepped down from public duty for the foreseeable future...

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:51 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:Stepped down from public duty for the foreseeable future...

So he won't be opening any new nursery schools anytime soon then?

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:56 pm

The Rozzers used to have the right idea - if you were a villain they'd have you even if it was for something you hadn't done!

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:02 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:Stepped down from public duty for the foreseeable future...

Out of sight,out of mind

that's what the royals will hope.

lakedistrictclaret · Post by **lakedistrictclaret** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:08 pm

Blackrod wrote:Just watched the interview. Some of the most cringeworthy tv I’ve seen. A poster hit the nail on the head with ‘toe curling’. So far out of touch with reality, Why on earth would anyone stay at a known sex offenders house ? Even Tim nice but dim wouldn’t.

Prince Andrew was about as convincing as those two Russians who came over to Salisbury, when they were interviewed.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:30 pm

Ultimately it’s about the lawyers and a very rich high profile member of the royal family is a absolute godsend to this sordid tale. Randy most likely porked the bimbo in question ( most likely a highly paid and very willing operative/escort/prostitute in Epsteins stable of fillies) Whether Randy was aware she was underage ( in the US) possibly not ? but the law doesn’t allow for such guesswork and rightly so . He’s simply raised his profile and from being a bit player he’s In danger of becoming centre stage as everyone who has anything on him is looking for a piece of the action . Choppy waters ahead for “ happy finish” Windsor

Claret Toni · Post by **Claret Toni** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:04 pm

"Therefore, I have asked Her Majesty if I may step back from public duties for the foreseeable future, and she has given her permission."

So it is possible to be sacked from the Royal Family then.

I wonder if he'll forego the £250k pa he receives, I think, from the civil list (won't hold my breath), but might be more of an issue claiming travel expenses (helicopter transfer from Windsor to the Golf Course), when he acknowledges he doesn't have a so called job.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:49 pm

Claret Toni wrote:"Therefore, I have asked Her Majesty if I may step back from public duties for the foreseeable future, and she has given her permission."

So it is possible to be sacked from the Royal Family then.

I wonder if he'll forego the £250k pa he receives, I think, from the civil list (won't hold my breath), but might be more of an issue claiming travel expenses (helicopter transfer from Windsor to the Golf Course), when he acknowledges he doesn't have a so called job.

Knowing the brass neck that Andrew has he'll still claim his expenses,i guess he's on the equivalent of gardening leave in football parloins,it's precisely this attitude which is storing up resentment towards the royal family,i'd also love to know precisely what his duties are for his considerable salary.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:53 pm

I can see him going on the pat n mick with a stress Disorder.

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:18 pm

He seems a very arrogant man, but I do find the spectacle of the BBC quizzing people on associating with sex-offenders rather bizarre, given that Stuart Hall and Jimmy Saville both worked for over 40 years for the BBC without anyone noticing any untoward behaviour !

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:29 pm

Clarets4me wrote:He seems a very arrogant man, but I do find the spectacle of the BBC quizzing people on associating with sex-offenders rather bizarre, given that Stuart Hall and Jimmy Saville both worked for over 40 years for the BBC without anyone noticing any untoward behaviour !

Allegedly some people did note their behaviour,but it was hushed up by the BBC heirachy,let he is without sin cast the first stone is a phrase that comes to mind.

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:55 pm

According to a well known Claret who is rarely out of the media, Andrew's interview and confession is 'not that big a deal'.

And then it is revealed that he also spent time at the home of convicted sex offender Epstein and his name appeared in Epstein's little black book. Apparently with the address of 10 Downing Street.

I wonder what other skeletons our Alastair has hiding in his closet.....

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