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Buying a British built car

Post by Mala591 » Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:46 am

I am thinking of changing my car and would PREFER to drive a British manufactured/assembled family size vehicle (I'm backing Britain).These are my options and any feedback from motoring enthusiasts would be welcome.

BMW Mini Countryman (nearly new)
New model Nissan Juke (brand new)
Nissan Qashqia (nearly new)
Range Rover Evoque (3 years old)
Vauxhall Astra (nearly new)

Are there any other options that I have overlooked?

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Re: Buying a British built car

Post by Bosscat » Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:02 am

https://makeitbritish.co.uk/made_in_bri ... made-cars/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You have actually just about named the 2012 top 5 choices Mala591 ;)

The Top 5 Best Selling British-made cars of 2012 (with number is brackets)
Nissan Qashqai (310,837)
Mini Mini (207,530)
Nissan Juke (154,759)
Land Rover Evoque (112,331)
Vauxhall Astra (90,187)

Just the Mini and Evoque models different :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Buying a British built car

Post by taio » Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:06 am

Out of those listed definitely the Evoque. Another possible alternative Jaguar XE.

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Re: Buying a British built car

Post by Bosscat » Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:09 am

taio wrote:Out of those listed definitely the Evoque. Another possible alternative Jaguar XE.
The XE a great choice.... some low mileage bargains to be had at Motorpoint....
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Re: Buying a British built car

Post by Blackrod » Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:10 am

If you are going for looks the Juke won’t be a contender.

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Re: Buying a British built car

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:15 am

Depends where you live?

The Juke performs far better in the Birmingham area than Burnley.
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Post by Bosscat » Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:20 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:Depends where you live?

The Juke performs far better in the Birmingham area than Burnley.
Performs or sells ;)

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:45 am

Bosscat wrote:Performs or sells ;)
Think ex player
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Post by Bosscat » Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:55 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:Think ex player
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Very good ya got me m8

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Re: Buying a British built car

Post by Rick_Muller » Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:03 pm

Don’t forget Honda Civic and Jazz along with Toyota Auris
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Post by claret2018 » Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:09 pm

Stay well clear of the Astra and Evoque, even if brand new. Terrible cars.

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Re: Buying a British built car

Post by Heathclaret » Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:34 pm

Hi Bosscat,

You obviously know Jaguars, what’s your opinion of the new XJ. Looks a beauty to me, but you probably know more about the nitty gritty than I do.

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Re: Buying a British built car

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:45 pm

Mala591 wrote:I am thinking of changing my car and would PREFER to drive a British manufactured/assembled family size vehicle (I'm backing Britain).These are my options and any feedback from motoring enthusiasts would be welcome.

BMW Mini Countryman (nearly new)
New model Nissan Juke (brand new)
Nissan Qashqia (nearly new)
Range Rover Evoque (3 years old)
Vauxhall Astra (nearly new)

Are there any other options that I have overlooked?
Supporting Britain by buying...

German with potentially a French engine.
French/Japanese
French/Japanese
Indian with potentially a ford engine.
French.

Or did I miss the joke there?

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Re: Buying a British built car

Post by taio » Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:52 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Supporting Britain by buying...

German with potentially a French engine.
French/Japanese
French/Japanese
Indian with potentially a ford engine.
French.

Or did I miss the joke there?
Presumably he wants to support those employed in the car industry in the UK.
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Post by Bosscat » Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:52 pm

Heathclaret wrote:Hi Bosscat,

You obviously know Jaguars, what’s your opinion of the new XJ. Looks a beauty to me, but you probably know more about the nitty gritty than I do.
Yeah its a looker but I wouldn't swap my XF for it. Neither are very parking friendly in Supermarkets :lol: .

I drove an E-Pace recently and thats a cracker... my Step Daughter has an F-Pace ....

I dream of one day owning an I-Pace all electric ... but at around 70k starting price and the infrastructure still not there fully (although IanMcL seems to manage with his Tesla) for charging on long journeys its out of my bracket...

I am also toying with a Tesla next up possibly ... they are all coming down into reasonable money as the tech improves.
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Re: Buying a British built car

Post by chorleyhere » Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:04 pm

Would have kept my Qashqai had it not been for the diesel pollution Tory balls up - now driving 2017 LEAF quite happily.

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Re: Buying a British built car

Post by Claretitus » Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:20 pm

Seriously- forget the Astra. Absolute nightmare, 18 months in ( or maybe less ) , the engine management warning light will be on constantly, mainly on the diesel, but the petrol ones are so flat, you'll have to rev the nuts off it. Also the TPS is a nightmare, lose 1psi and the warning light is on. Pump it up, the light remains on. Absolute sh**e. :|

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Re: Buying a British built car

Post by dougcollins » Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:29 pm

Get an Audi mate.
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Post by deanothedino » Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:08 am

Claretitus wrote:Seriously- forget the Astra. Absolute nightmare, 18 months in ( or maybe less ) , the engine management warning light will be on constantly, mainly on the diesel, but the petrol ones are so flat, you'll have to rev the nuts off it. Also the TPS is a nightmare, lose 1psi and the warning light is on. Pump it up, the light remains on. Absolute sh**e. :|
My Astra engine is fine... then again it is the GM engine and you can't get them anymore so it's not really useful.

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Re: Buying a British built car

Post by Quicknick » Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:30 am

I'd just get a Japanese car.

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Re: Buying a British built car

Post by IanMcL » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:34 am

Don't forget the Morgan. Literally handcrafted and assembled in UK. 850 made per year.

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Post by RalphCoatesComb » Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:36 am

Another vote for the Evoque.
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Post by Claret-On-A-T-Rex » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:19 pm

taio wrote:Presumably he wants to support those employed in the car industry in the UK.
Better buy something quickly then.
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Re: Buying a British built car

Post by IanMcL » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:09 pm

Swindon Honda could do with a lift.
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Re: Buying a British built car

Post by Quicknick » Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:56 am

I used to have a Reliant; I followed it up with a Bond Bug; then a Mini; then a Triumph Spitfire. My British period.

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Re: Buying a British built car

Post by Burnley1989 » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:08 pm

Bosscat wrote:Yeah its a looker but I wouldn't swap my XF for it. Neither are very parking friendly in Supermarkets :lol: .

I drove an E-Pace recently and thats a cracker... my Step Daughter has an F-Pace ....

I dream of one day owning an I-Pace all electric ... but at around 70k starting price and the infrastructure still not there fully (although IanMcL seems to manage with his Tesla) for charging on long journeys its out of my bracket...

I am also toying with a Tesla next up possibly ... they are all coming down into reasonable money as the tech improves.
I like my works car which is an E-pace, but make sure you get a half decent spec, they're very basic if not.

My previous works car was a top spec Passat Estate and whilst not as easy on the eye, it was one of my favourite cars I've driven. It all depends how much time you spend in the car, I probably drive 1000-1200 miles most weeks so its all about comfort, but can understand if you're only doing 100-200 miles a week then its not as important.
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Re: Buying a British built car

Post by Mala591 » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:14 pm

https://www.carwow.co.uk/nissan/juke" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I have decided to test drive the NEW Nissan Juke which has received good pre-launch reviews in the motoring press. Will feed back when I have and will compare it with a 3 year old Evoque.
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Post by Bosscat » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:23 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:I like my works car which is an E-pace, but make sure you get a half decent spec, they're very basic if not.

My previous works car was a top spec Passat Estate and whilst not as easy on the eye, it was one of my favourite cars I've driven. It all depends how much time you spend in the car, I probably drive 1000-1200 miles most weeks so its all about comfort, but can understand if you're only doing 100-200 miles a week then its not as important.
Yes I know m8 my XF is the 3.0S Deisel with a high spec :D ...

The E-pace I test drove was the HSE ....very nice, but my XF is bloody great and I am loathe to part and probably won't :lol: :lol: :lol:
I went out and bought the Mrs a Citroen C3 ex demonstrator (6 months old 79 miles on the clock) from our local Citroen dealer in Cross Hills...

Was a damned site less money than trading the both XF in and our old DS4 Citroen for an E-pace :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Buying a British built car

Post by houseboy » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:51 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:Depends where you live?

The Juke performs far better in the Birmingham area than Burnley.
You very nearly had me there bud - very good - very good indeed. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Buying a British built car

Post by mikeS » Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:01 pm

Austin Maxi or Morris Marina mmmmm difficult choice.

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Post by Bosscat » Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:13 pm

mikeS wrote:Austin Maxi or Morris Marina mmmmm difficult choice.
Had an Austin Maxi... it was brilliant(ish) ... It turned into a double bed very easily by pulling out the headrests on the front seats, moving the front seats forward and fully reclining.... followed that with an Austin Princess (Wedge) 2.2 and 6 cylinders very similar ability to turn into a bed :D.

Used to spend many Skipton Saturday nights (not always on my own ;) but shhhhhh the wifes listening) parked down Alma Street by the old courthouse, with the keys at my m8s to avoid the problem of being drunk in charge :D.
All this after a night of Rockin' at the Yorkshireman Pub on Sheep Street. Heavy Metal/Rock Nights every Saturday in the early 80's.....

Never had a Marina but have driven a few :? .

Ahhhhh the 70's and 80's the "Glory years" of British Leylands wonderful offerings.

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Post by chorleyhere » Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:41 pm

Had driving lessons in a mini then passed my test in the family Morris Oxford. The headlight housing showed up exactly where the front of the car was and the fins at the rear were excellent for reversing and parking. It drove "like a tank", it went where you steered it unlike the Marina which my parents bought as the next car. That was akin to a ballet dancer on ice whenever you steered it round a decent bend !!!

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Post by Croydon Claret » Mon Nov 18, 2019 6:57 pm

Whatever you do don't buy a Lotus, unless you
really want to test how good the warranty is :-(
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Post by Holtyclaret » Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:24 pm

I drive a juke and love it, small fuel tank and very heavy car but I like it.

I work at bmw mini and if I didn’t need to cart around my fishing gear I’d have one like a shot.
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Post by LoveCurryPies » Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:29 pm

Got to drive an Aston Martin DB9 last weekend. I’m wondering if crowdfunding is an option. ;)
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Re: Buying a British built car

Post by Mala591 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:49 pm

Bit too much for my budget but the brand new UK built electric/petrol hybrid Corolla (yes the name has been changed back again from Auris) is getting excellent reviews in the motoring press. If you're looking for a new family hatchback (rather than an SUV) then check it out.

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Post by Bosscat » Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:45 pm

Mala591 wrote:Bit too much for my budget but the brand new UK built electric/petrol hybrid Corolla (yes the name has been changed back again from Auris) is getting excellent reviews in the motoring press. If you're looking for a new family hatchback (rather than an SUV) then check it out.
Yeah but the CHR is a looker compared to the Corrola/Auris m8

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Post by Pimlico_Claret » Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:10 pm

Evoques should come with their own low-loading trailer, they spend more time on one of those than the road. Terrible reliability and crap dealer service considering the price.

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Post by Bosscat » Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:14 pm

Pimlico_Claret wrote:Evoques should come with their own low-loading trailer, they spend more time on one of those than the road. Terrible reliability and crap dealer service considering the price.
Have you had a bad one pimlico ... my m8s wife has had hers with no bother for 2 years (its 5 year old) and not a problem....

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Post by Pimlico_Claret » Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:16 pm

Bosscat wrote:Have you had a bad one pimlico ... my m8s wife has had hers with no bother for 2 years (its 5 year old) and not a problem....
I wouldn't touch that brand after a load of problems with a 15k 3 year old Freelander that I was told not to drive in wet weather, by the bloody dealership! In the trade, know loads of people with various problems, consistently score very poorly in reliability surveys.

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Post by Lowbankclaret » Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:37 pm

Bosscat wrote:The XE a great choice.... some low mileage bargains to be had at Motorpoint....

Check engine type in the Jag.

My next door neighbour has the F type 1.5.

Engine has been rebuilt twice in 9 months from new due to balance shaft issues.

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Post by Bosscat » Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:48 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:Check engine type in the Jag.

My next door neighbour has the F type 1.5.

Engine has been rebuilt twice in 9 months from new due to balance shaft issues.
The XE have the 2.0 ingenium engine ... not heard much problem with those m8.....
They don't use the 1.5 f type engine yet, but it looks like they are going to...

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new- ... d-ev-shake" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

To bring an EV unit for the XE & XF range..... interesting :D thanks for bringing that up.

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Post by Lowbankclaret » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:49 pm

Apparently Jag told them that they were changing the manufacturing method of the balance shaft so she had to wait 5 weeks for her car to be repaired waiting for a balance shaft that was in short supply.

Hoping for her it’s all good now.

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