Batten down the hatches.

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Batten down the hatches.

Post by IWOODLOVETT » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:26 am

Beware our successful run up to Christmas this year may mean a difficult time in January. There’s a few desperate big spending clubs out there that are looking enviously at our players - Everton, West Ham, Arsenal and Spurs (under you know who) to name a few.

Currently we have among our ranks (as a certain lager advert would say) probably the best central defensive pairing, probably the best goalkeeper and probably the best young winger around. They will all be targeted and any or all of them could be prised away from us for the right price.

Add to that the likes of Barnes, Wood and Taylor plus the attraction of some of our internationally fringe players - Gibson, Vydra, Hart, Long, JBG, Hendrick and Brady. Even our manager and his staff may be sounded out.

We may be seen as the Supermarket Sweep of the Prem. and our ”comfortable” league position might just tempt some at the top to think about cashing in.

This may sound a bit gloomy but again it shows how far we have come, how we are gaining respect and how we are becoming the envy of a lot of our rivals, opposition fans and foreign owners around the country and YES around the world.

I wouldn’t have it any other way.

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Re: Batten down the hatches.

Post by Bullabill » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:28 am

I agree.

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Re: Batten down the hatches.

Post by Hibsclaret » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:32 am

No.

We’re making up the numbers. Can’t see anyone wanting our players.

Nowt to worry about

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Re: Batten down the hatches.

Post by jdrobbo » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:39 am

I like your use of the word desperate. If these clubs truly are desperate, then we should expect them to pay the going rate.

Tarkowski - Overs over 50million
McNeil - Offers over 50 million
Pope - Offers over 40 million

We will always be in that situation, where big clubs try and nick our players. This is why we really should be delighted with the recent contract extensions of messrs Wood, Barnes and Taylor.

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Re: Batten down the hatches.

Post by Nonayforever » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:42 am

I can really see Muriniho going for Barnes.

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Re: Batten down the hatches.

Post by IWOODLOVETT » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:48 am

Nonayforever wrote:I can really see Muriniho going for Barnes.
Ah, but don’t forget that this is the new, much changed, meek and mild Messiah. Anything is possible now.
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Re: Batten down the hatches.

Post by Royboyclaret » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:34 am

IWOODLOVETT wrote:Beware our successful run up to Christmas this year may mean a difficult time in January. There’s a few desperate big spending clubs out there that are looking enviously at our players - Everton, West Ham, Arsenal and Spurs (under you know who) to name a few.

Currently we have among our ranks (as a certain lager advert would say) probably the best central defensive pairing, probably the best goalkeeper and probably the best young winger around. They will all be targeted and any or all of them could be prised away from us for the right price.

Add to that the likes of Barnes, Wood and Taylor plus the attraction of some of our internationally fringe players - Gibson, Vydra, Hart, Long, JBG, Hendrick and Brady. Even our manager and his staff may be sounded out.

We may be seen as the Supermarket Sweep of the Prem. and our ”comfortable” league position might just tempt some at the top to think about cashing in.

This may sound a bit gloomy but again it shows how far we have come, how we are gaining respect and how we are becoming the envy of a lot of our rivals, opposition fans and foreign owners around the country and YES around the world.

Some interesting observations in the OP. Going back throughout our history we've always been a selling club, a policy that was neccessary in order to balance the books. Way back in 1925 we sold our star player at the time Bob Kelly for £6,500 and then on New Year's Day 1937 sold our great centre-forward Tommy Lawton for the same amount to Everton.

Since then literally a procession of star players leaving the Club, particularly in the '60's and '70's, as Bob Lord ensured we made an Operating Profit most financial years at least. Now, however, there's a subtle difference in that for the first time ever we no longer HAVE to sell a player a season. Incoming finance is now sufficient to avoid having to lose our better players and long may that continue.

I wouldn’t have it any other way.

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Re: Batten down the hatches.

Post by Royboyclaret » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:35 am

IWOODLOVETT wrote:Beware our successful run up to Christmas this year may mean a difficult time in January. There’s a few desperate big spending clubs out there that are looking enviously at our players - Everton, West Ham, Arsenal and Spurs (under you know who) to name a few.

Currently we have among our ranks (as a certain lager advert would say) probably the best central defensive pairing, probably the best goalkeeper and probably the best young winger around. They will all be targeted and any or all of them could be prised away from us for the right price.

Add to that the likes of Barnes, Wood and Taylor plus the attraction of some of our internationally fringe players - Gibson, Vydra, Hart, Long, JBG, Hendrick and Brady. Even our manager and his staff may be sounded out.

We may be seen as the Supermarket Sweep of the Prem. and our ”comfortable” league position might just tempt some at the top to think about cashing in.

This may sound a bit gloomy but again it shows how far we have come, how we are gaining respect and how we are becoming the envy of a lot of our rivals, opposition fans and foreign owners around the country and YES around the world.

Some interesting observations in the OP. Going back throughout our history we've always been a selling club, a policy that was neccessary in order to balance the books. Way back in 1925 we sold our star player at the time Bob Kelly for £6,500 and then on New Year's Day 1937 sold our great centre-forward Tommy Lawton for the same amount to Everton.

Since then literally a procession of star players leaving the Club, particularly in the '60's and '70's, as Bob Lord ensured we made an Operating Profit most financial years at least. Now, however, there's a subtle difference in that for the first time ever we no longer HAVE to sell a player a season. Incoming finance is now sufficient to avoid having to lose our better players and long may that continue.

I wouldn’t have it any other way.

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Re: Batten down the hatches.

Post by LoveCurryPies » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:47 am

Are all football fans doom and gloom in mindset? Threads about Sean going and our best players being poached. :lol:

I know you will probably say you are being realistic.

As long as we are in the top 10, I think our players will mostly stay and should anyone leave for huge amounts of cash, we are an attractive proposition to upcoming players.

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Re: Batten down the hatches.

Post by dsr » Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:15 pm

I don't think those at the top have ever been tempted by the idea of "cashing in". Since Charlie Austin, who has the club sold where the player wasn't wanting to move, the club didn't have a replacement, or the player was past his best and the club was better off taking the money?
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Re: Batten down the hatches.

Post by IWOODLOVETT » Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:21 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:Are all football fans doom and gloom in mindset?
No doom and gloom here, I’m actually very upbeat, because this situation means that we are doing very, very well and much better than a lot of our rivals.

As royboy has pointed out we do not need to sell, but even if we do it will be on our terms. I was dismayed when we sold Michael Keane, but that boosted our bank account and heralded the arrival of Tarks. The same could happen again as we have very capable players waiting in the wings in just about every position - except midfield where a cash boost would help us to recruit well.

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Re: Batten down the hatches.

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:23 pm

Clubs wanting your players is part and parcel of being successful.

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Re: Batten down the hatches.

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:17 pm

We should be aiming for Europe again and having a proper go at it this time

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Re: Batten down the hatches.

Post by mickleoverclaret » Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:26 pm

We won't be flogging any first team players in January.

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Re: Batten down the hatches.

Post by Firthy » Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:36 pm

Vydra and Wells out. Bowen and Eze in. I'd be happy with that.

Definitely none of our key players leaving.

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Re: Batten down the hatches.

Post by Shore claret » Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:45 pm

Any of our players playing regularly would be daft to leave, they would disappear into reserve teams.

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Re: Batten down the hatches.

Post by tarkys_ears » Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:48 pm

From the players tab with contract date

1 Nick Pope Goalkeeper 19/04/1992 13 0 2023+
2 Matt Lowton Defender 09/06/1989 11+1 0 2021
3 Charlie Taylor Defender 18/09/1993 3+2 0 2024
4 Jack Cork Midfielder 25/06/1989 11 0 2021
5 James Tarkowski Defender 19/11/1992 13 1 2022
6 Ben Mee Defender 21/09/1989 13 0 2021+
7 Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson Midfielder 27/10/1990 4 1 2021
8 Danny Drinkwater (loan from Chelsea) Midfielder 05/03/1990 1 0 Jan 20
9 Chris Wood Forward 07/12/1991 11+1 6 2023
10 Ashley Barnes Forward 30/10/1989 12 6 2022+
11 Dwight McNeil Forward 22/11/1999 14 1 2023+
12 Robbie Brady Midfielder 14/01/1992 1+5 0 2020+
13 Jeff Hendrick Midfielder 31/01/1992 9+2 0 2020
14 Ben Gibson Defender 15/01/1993 1 0 2022
15 Bailey Peacock-Farrell Goalkeeper 29/10/1996 0 0 2023+
18 Ashley Westwood Midfielder 01/04/1990 13 0 2020+
19 Jay Rodriguez Forward 29/07/1989 4+10 3 2021+
20 Joe Hart Goalkeeper 19/04/1987 1 0 2020+
21 Nahki Wells (loan to QPR) Forward 01/06/1990 0 0 2020
23 Erik Pieters Defender 07/08/1988 11 0 2021+
25 Aaron Lennon Midfielder 16/04/1987 3+6 0 2020
26 Phil Bardsley Defender 28/06/1985 3 0 2020
27 Matěj Vydra Forward 01/05/1992 1+3 0 2021+
28 Kevin Long Defender 18/08/1990 1 0 2021
30 Adam Legzdins Goalkeeper 28/11/1986 0 0 2020
34 Jimmy Dunne (loan to Fleetwood) Defender 19/10/1997 0 0 2020+
Aiden O’Neill (loan to Brisbane Roar) Midfielder 04/07/1998 0 0 2020+

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We've done exceptional business in keeping our key players in contract. They won't be going anywhere or they won't unless it suits us.

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Re: Batten down the hatches.

Post by k90bfc » Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:49 pm

I wish we were in this position when we sold,Dobson,James,Thomas,Kindon,Connelly,Morgan,Irvine,Lochhead,Mcilroy etc,sold to survive,Unbelievable dream,where we are today,Thanks Sean,and the Board!

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