Tarky’s contract - £40m release clause

Father Jack · Post by **Father Jack** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:15 pm

According to David Ormstein on the Athletic.
Do we believe it?

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:21 pm

Great we managed to keep Tarks for this season but when he goes will have been great bit of business from the club

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:23 pm

If he goes for a penny under £50 million, I’ll be very disappointed.

Mattster · Post by **Mattster** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:25 pm

Demand (and get) 80m for Maguire and then have the cheek to be "aghast" that Tarkowski is only available for 40m? Haha.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:40 pm

Our hand might be forced if he won't sign a new contract with us....

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:45 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Our hand might be forced if he won't sign a new contract with us....

Under contract for another two and a half years

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:49 pm

A 40m release fee that only applies to teams in the north west?
What an odd statement, and it must list the teams who fit that category surely

I know he has a release fee, but I heard release fee was 50m, but obviously that's all speculation.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:52 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Under contract for another two and a half years

I'm not saying soon, but if he doesn't want to sign then next summer we'll have to cash in. I'm pretty sure we won't let him get into his final 12 months.

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:53 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Under contract for another two and a half years

Signed in January 2018, a new deal until June 2022 ...

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:23 pm

If he continues playing well and the team have a good season
then I would think 40m next summer would be good deal/price.
If there's anyone out there willing to offer it.

More importantly if there is a 40m offer (and if wants to go)
then I have little doubt that we'd accept it.
He'd probably double his wage elsewhere.

cblantfanclub · Post by **cblantfanclub** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:34 pm

Macca

"I know he has a release fee, but I heard release fee was 50m, but obviously that's all speculation."

Just curious how do you know?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:34 pm

MACCA wrote:A 40m release fee that only applies to teams in the north west?
What an odd statement, and it must list the teams who fit that category surely

I know he has a release fee, but I heard release fee was 50m, but obviously that's all speculation.

£80m for further travel!

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:41 pm

MACCA wrote:A 40m release fee that only applies to teams in the north west?
What an odd statement, and it must list the teams who fit that category surely

I know he has a release fee, but I heard release fee was 50m, but obviously that's all speculation.

Do you not remember Tarkas reason for wanting to return north from Brentford.... It was to be in the North West near his family especially his Mother who was Ill at the time (I don't know if his Mum is still Ill but he certainly spends time with his family) perhaps a Northwest Club codicil in the release clause has something to do with that.....

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:50 pm

I hear a few things and can confirm it's not true.

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:53 pm

20/25% sell on fee to Brentford means if we sell for 40 million we will have had our pants down....in my opinion. We should be looking at 50 million as a minimum

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:24 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:I hear a few things and can confirm it's not true.

ear! ear!

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:26 pm

claretblue wrote:ear! ear!

Someone got it

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:58 pm

I have updated the title for peace of mind!

Bfcboyo · Post by **Bfcboyo** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:52 pm

Could we clone Ben Mee for 40M
For an extra 10m could we have him right footed
And another 5m to make his clone available in 3 months?

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:06 am

Bfcboyo wrote:Could we clone Ben Mee for 40M
For an extra 10m could we have him right footed
And another 5m to make his clone available in 3 months?

Identical twins are often right-hand left-hand pairs, so I'm told - some even have their heart on the right hand side, being mirror image - so a mirror image Ben Mee (or Eem Neb) would do perfectly.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:54 am

MACCA wrote:A 40m release fee that only applies to teams in the north west?
What an odd statement, and it must list the teams who fit that category surely

I know he has a release fee, but I heard release fee was 50m, but obviously that's all speculation.

Very odd statement. Why would be willing to take less money just because the club wasn’t in the North West.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:52 pm

martin_p wrote:Very odd statement. Why would be willing to take less money just because the club wasn’t in the North West.

Like a poster further up said, maybe if it's a local club near his family, he wanted to maybe get the chance of a bigger club but only if it's close to his family and sick mother.
He might have said any other club come in its upto us as a club whether we accept.

I presume by North West clubs he means

Man C
Man Utd
Liverpool
Everton

If that's the case then fair enough, he will have deserved his chance and been a great servant should they come in for him.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:28 pm

MACCA wrote:Like a poster further up said, maybe if it's a local club near his family, he wanted to maybe get the chance of a bigger club but only if it's close to his family and sick mother.
He might have said any other club come in its upto us as a club whether we accept.

I presume by North West clubs he means

Man C
Man Utd
Liverpool
Everton

If that's the case then fair enough, he will have deserved his chance and been a great servant should they come in for him.

City, United and Liverpool I would agree with but Everton at the moment is hardly a step up.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:40 pm

So in the next few months we are going to lose Dyche to West Ham (despite there being no vacancy there just now), Tarks and Mee to...just about anyone with a bit of money, McNeil to United, Lowton (because according to many he is rubbish), JBG to Fáskrúðsfjörður (who?), Lennon to old age and Brady to Bohemians FC.

Have I left anyone out?

Seriously do any other fans get so excited about losing players? If you believe half of what you read on here it's amazing we can ever put a team together. I can fully understand now why so many were depressed when we were in the bottom tier, because they couldn't have discussions like this.....because no bugger actually wanted our players.

Here's a radical idea. Let's leave discussions about players leaving when they actually ARE leaving.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:53 pm

houseboy wrote:So in the next few months we are going to lose Dyche to West Ham (despite there being no vacancy there just now), Tarks and Mee to...just about anyone with a bit of money, McNeil to United, Lowton (because according to many he is rubbish), JBG to Fáskrúðsfjörður (who?), Lennon to old age and Brady to Bohemians FC.

Have I left anyone out?

Seriously do any other fans get so excited about losing players? If you believe half of what you read on here it's amazing we can ever put a team together. I can fully understand now why so many were depressed when we were in the bottom tier, because they couldn't have discussions like this.....because no bugger actually wanted our players.

Here's a radical idea. Let's leave discussions about players leaving when they actually ARE leaving.

When we get these so called "He's off" threads about SD and players, I question the allegiance of some of the posters ... are they just stirring the proverbial.

Some of the "Dyche Out" brigade (who funnily enough have gone quiet about "Dyche Out") are all of a sudden touting him to Wet Spam, Everton etc etc because he should be at a "bigger club" because he is a brilliant manager.

We saw this on the Lancashire Telegraph in years past everytime a job at "Everton, Newcastle, Sunderland, Leicester" etc etc etc cropped up. Yet a week or two later he didn't leave cos he is sh*t or the said club rejected his request to be interviewed ......

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:00 pm

Houseboy - there is potentially a major overhaul that will be needed to the squad in the next few months.

I ain’t worried about Tarks, Mee, or McNeil - what will be will be - we are in the same position as most clubs in the world here....very good players get sold to bigger clubs eventually. That’s how it works - and we have been brilliant at making huge returns on players.

But we do have a few players who will be out of contract soon - Brady, Hart, Lennon, Hendrick, Bardsley etc - out of them how many deserve a new contract ? Only Jeff probably - and he has been offered one. Bardsley has done a good job but not sure he is the future.
JBG and Lowts have now got question marks over them for me now - I used to really rate Lowts but he’s lost his form pretty alarmingly at least 3 times in the last season and a bit. JBG is getting more and more injured and it’s getting to the point where we need to ask whether there is a bigger issue here - we certainly can’t rely on him.

And then there is Vydra and Gibson - I think something will probably change with either of both of these as we will start reaching a point where they are a year out of end of contract and little or no sell on value and if they are not playing we might want to cash in or they might want to leave to play regular football

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:49 pm

TVC15 wrote:Houseboy - there is potentially a major overhaul that will be needed to the squad in the next few months.

I ain’t worried about Tarks, Mee, or McNeil - what will be will be - we are in the same position as most clubs in the world here....very good players get sold to bigger clubs eventually. That’s how it works - and we have been brilliant at making huge returns on players.

But we do have a few players who will be out of contract soon - Brady, Hart, Lennon, Hendrick, Bardsley etc - out of them how many deserve a new contract ? Only Jeff probably - and he has been offered one. Bardsley has done a good job but not sure he is the future.
JBG and Lowts have now got question marks over them for me now - I used to really rate Lowts but he’s lost his form pretty alarmingly at least 3 times in the last season and a bit. JBG is getting more and more injured and it’s getting to the point where we need to ask whether there is a bigger issue here - we certainly can’t rely on him.

And then there is Vydra and Gibson - I think something will probably change with either of both of these as we will start reaching a point where they are a year out of end of contract and little or no sell on value and if they are not playing we might want to cash in or they might want to leave to play regular football

I can't argue with most of this bud and yes we will definitely need some 'incomings' in the very near future, we could do with one or two now to be honest but we're doing nicely. My (slightly tongue-in-cheek) rant was more to do with the constant threads about good players (and our beloved manager) potentially leaving for 'bigger' clubs or better money or prospects. And all with absolutely no basis whatsoever. If Tarks goes, as he might at some point, it almost certainly won't be until next Summer, 6 months away. Mee hasn't even been linked with anyone. Dyche isn't going to West Ham because there's no vacancy and even if there were why would he go to a nothing club like that? Money? I don't think that overly motivates him. Prospects? What have West Ham ever achieved in their entire history to suggest they have any?

I just get a bit bored with all this 'he's off' talk about any or all of our players, it's like people have nothing better to do so they start a thread about the next player to leave.

Still, I suppose it gives them something to

do on the cold Winter days.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:56 pm

Bosscat wrote:When we get these so called "He's off" threads about SD and players, I question the allegiance of some of the posters ... are they just stirring the proverbial.

Some of the "Dyche Out" brigade (who funnily enough have gone quiet about "Dyche Out") are all of a sudden touting him to Wet Spam, Everton etc etc because he should be at a "bigger club" because he is a brilliant manager.

We saw this on the Lancashire Telegraph in years past everytime a job at "Everton, Newcastle, Sunderland, Leicester" etc etc etc cropped up. Yet a week or two later he didn't leave cos he is sh*t or the said club rejected his request to be interviewed ......

Bizarrely Boss I don't really believe (to be serious for a moment) that this site has any interlopers - I haven't seen any real evidence of it anyway. We got all that crap on the Telegraph because of (mainly) one individual with so many names we didn't know, in the end, who we were talking to. Actually it got quite bizarre because in the end, before I left, anyone new to the site was assumed to be Keano.
I may pay the old site a visit soon just to say hello to Gordy and the others and then go and create some havoc on the Rovers threads.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:00 pm

houseboy wrote:I can't argue with most of this bud and yes we will definitely need some 'incomings' in the very near future, we could do with one or two now to be honest but we're doing nicely. My (slightly tongue-in-cheek) rant was more to do with the constant threads about good players (and our beloved manager) potentially leaving for 'bigger' clubs or better money or prospects. And all with absolutely no basis whatsoever. If Tarks goes, as he might at some point, it almost certainly won't be until next Summer, 6 months away. Mee hasn't even been linked with anyone. Dyche isn't going to West Ham because there's no vacancy and even if there were why would he go to a nothing club like that? Money? I don't think that overly motivates him. Prospects? What have West Ham ever achieved in their entire history to suggest they have any?

I just get a bit bored with all this 'he's off' talk about any or all of our players, it's like people have nothing better to do so they start a thread about the next player to leave.

Still, I suppose it gives them something to do on the cold Winter days.

Yep agree.
I’ve seen SD give a couple of presentations about the club to a small audience - both at the training ground. Even though they were different presentations in each there was a bit of informal chat and a chance for questions. He made it clear in both that the only guarantee in football is that he will leave at some point - he insisted it might not be because he wants to (but it might be).
His family has stayed in Northampton too which with 3 kids must be hard.
But he knows he is on a good thing at Burnley and he has more control and influence than he would do at crack pot clubs like West Ham, Watford, etc and far less pressure than at the likes of Everton where the fans still think they should be winning the champions league !! So for now I can’t see him going but if he did decide to call it a day and test himself at a bigger club I would not be surprised either.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:48 pm

TVC15 wrote:Yep agree.
I’ve seen SD give a couple of presentations about the club to a small audience - both at the training ground. Even though they were different presentations in each there was a bit of informal chat and a chance for questions. He made it clear in both that the only guarantee in football is that he will leave at some point - he insisted it might not be because he wants to (but it might be).
His family has stayed in Northampton too which with 3 kids must be hard.
But he knows he is on a good thing at Burnley and he has more control and influence than he would do at crack pot clubs like West Ham, Watford, etc and far less pressure than at the likes of Everton where the fans still think they should be winning the champions league !! So for now I can’t see him going but if he did decide to call it a day and test himself at a bigger club I would not be surprised either.

And who would blame him to be honest. But sometimes people get in a comfort zone and as you say his freedom at Burnley probably has no equal anywhere in the top two divisions, maybe more. The only manager I recall in recent years who has anything like his status at a club was Fergie at United. It all depends on what he wants from the game I suppose, but he may prefer to be a big fish in a (pretty tiny) pond.

I hope so.

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:00 pm

Sorry for being mega-thick but does this mean - if it's true - that any club outside the "Big Four" NW clubs would have to meet our asking price?

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:34 pm

What it means (if true) is that if a NW club offers£40m we would have to let Tarkowski go, if he wanted to. If a club from outside the NW made a bid of£40m or any other amount, we would not be forced to let him go - it would be a matter of negotiation like a normal transfer.

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