Tottingham lukewarmspurts Versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:42 pm

This time last year I would have been questioning Dyche but he turned it around last year and has shown this season he isn't afraid to drop players who under perform - his hands are tied at the moment because of the poor quality in depth of our squad. I would expect Gibson to be given a chance at this point though

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:42 pm

With a bit of luck we’ll have Westwood, Barnes and Taylor back

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:42 pm

Midfield has been terrible and it's no coincidence that in the last few games that we've started the currwnt full backs we have conceded something like 20 goals.

But both Cork and Hendrick look miles off today

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:43 pm

Looks like they've eased off...thank fcuk.
Alli off.

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:43 pm

Mee has captain fever a bit like Clark Carlisle. He needs to be dropped for Gibson but won't be since he's captain.

Next game time to give more players a chance. Barnes and Vydra up top. Gibson in for Mee, Kevin Long in for Tarkowski... Drinkwater too.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:44 pm

Credit to McNeil what a player, god bless him that he doesn’t scream at his useless fullbacks.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:45 pm

Just hope we can hang on to McNeil this Jan

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:45 pm

Think I'll just filter out the others today and just look at McNeill. What a player. Hope we can hang on to him

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:45 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:42 pm
With a bit of luck we’ll have Westwood, Barnes and Taylor back

I’m assuming the proprietors of “Ash Cabs” were possibility’s of being in squad today as both travelled down, but I don’t think Taylor did

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:46 pm

KefkaClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:44 pm
Credit to McNeil what a player, god bless him that he doesn’t scream at his useless fullbacks.

Make the most of him, probably won't be here long.

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:46 pm

Longsidebogs wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:38 pm
May I be the first to say Dyche out. I’m sorry but the guy is clueless and needs replacing ASAP.

Of course you may.

But only if you want to look a complete tw@t.

Barry_Chuckle · Post by **Barry_Chuckle** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:46 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:42 pm
his hands are tied at the moment because of the poor quality in depth of our squad

His poor recruitment philosophy after 7 years is why his hands are tied, recruiting ageing hasbeens nobody else wants.

You reap what you did, after 7 years the team and depth of bench are his responsibility.

Longsidebogs · Post by **Longsidebogs** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:46 pm

Chances of me renewing next season are less than zero. We have no place and no right to be playing premier league football given our lack of investment. We deserve to be relegated, and we will be this time.

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:46 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:42 pm
This time last year I would have been questioning Dyche but he turned it around last year and has shown this season he isn't afraid to drop players who under perform - his hands are tied at the moment because of the poor quality in depth of our squad. I would expect Gibson to be given a chance at this point though

I agree with some of what you say, but Dyche reluctance to give the kids a go who seem to be very capable is making the depth of the squad a lot worse, as had seen to favour playing players out of form or out of position before giving them a go.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:47 pm

Longsidebogs wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:46 pm
Chances of me renewing next season are less than zero. We have no place and no right to be playing premier league football given our lack of investment. We deserve to be relegated, and we will be this time.

Ok, bye then.

Bertiebeehead · Post by **Bertiebeehead** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:47 pm

Broken jaw

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:48 pm

Ah well, the McNeil money along with parachute payments and the dry powder might be enough to keep us going for a year or two after relegation...

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:48 pm

Barry_Chuckle wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:46 pm
His poor recruitment philosophy after 7 years is why his hands are tied, recruiting ageing hasbeens nobody else wants.

You reap what you did, after 7 years the team and depth of bench are his responsibility.

I suspect if the board would have given him 100 million to spend he wouldn't have signed Vydra, Jay- Rod, Pieters etc etc

I have long criticised our style of play but he has worked miracles, he is fighting with both hands tied behind his back in this league

Longsidebogs · Post by **Longsidebogs** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:49 pm

scouseclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:46 pm
Of course you may.

But only if you want to look a complete tw@t.

That’s fine. You are entitled to your misguided opinion. Dyche would have been sacked ages ago by any other premier league team. Fact.

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:49 pm

I'm impressed with myself that I am hanging on until the end

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:50 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:48 pm
I suspect if the board would have given him 100 million to spend he wouldn't have signed Vydra, Jay- Rod, Pieters etc etc

I have long criticised our style of play but he has worked miracles, he is fighting with both hands tied behind his back in this league

Yeah but he'd still play the same way.

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:51 pm

Christ, we were better in the first half and we conceded 4!

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:51 pm

Longsidebogs wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:49 pm
That’s fine. You are entitled to your misguided opinion. Dyche would have been sacked ages ago by any other premier league team. Fact.

And we would be in the Championship

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:51 pm

Croydon Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:49 pm
I'm impressed with myself that I am hanging on until the end

texasbrit · Post by **texasbrit** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:51 pm

time for dyche to step down xx

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:51 pm

Longsidebogs wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:49 pm
That’s fine. You are entitled to your misguided opinion. Dyche would have been sacked ages ago by any other premier league team. Fact.

Were you complaining when we were battering West Ham and Watford and beating Everton?
No you weren't , so shut the fcuk up and try to find a bit of backbone.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:52 pm

Longsidebogs wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:38 pm
May I be the first to say Dyche out. I’m sorry but the guy is clueless and needs replacing ASAP.

Here they come, the idiots are incoming. I might be the first to say but, despite this shitshow there's no one else I'd rather have in charge.

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:52 pm

I know we are beat but why can't dyche give one of the youngsters a 5 min cameo

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:53 pm

Thank goodness it's FT

We hope that the next game might be more fruitful

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:53 pm

Croydon Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:49 pm
I'm impressed with myself that I am hanging on until the end

If I wasn’t feeling so rough after being at the Bier Keller last night, I’d have switched off and got the decs down from the loft like Mrs W has asked me too

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:54 pm

A poor game for us all round.

Outclassed in just about every aspect of this game.

Poor passing and sections making made it all the more easier for Spurs.

I for one am thankful for the FT whistle.

Longsidebogs · Post by **Longsidebogs** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:56 pm

We really need to let McNeil go in January. He is a million miles better than Burnley. It’s not even funny that he got in the starting 11 by accident.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:56 pm

At least I don’t have to stay up for MOTD now so I can go to bed at a reasonable time after watching the boxing

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:56 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:48 pm
I suspect if the board would have given him 100 million to spend he wouldn't have signed Vydra, Jay- Rod, Pieters etc etc

I have long criticised our style of play but he has worked miracles, he is fighting with both hands tied behind his back in this league

I suggested we could spend big eg: Che Adam and it's no guarantee of success. You reply

won't make a difference who we sign when all we do is hoof it

So now you're stuck in a cycle saying both that it's the boards fault for not spending, but even if we did spend then Dyche's style of play makes it irreverent...

Make your mind up.

Longsidebogs · Post by **Longsidebogs** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:58 pm

Longsidebogs wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:53 pm
Yes, of course you fkin dkhead.

Would be interesting to know the reason for your user name? Combat Claret lol. Do me a favour ha ha.

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:00 pm

Longsidebogs wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:58 pm
Would be interesting to know the reason for your user name? Combat Claret lol. Do me a favour ha ha.

Sure, I teach stage combat and have nearly 100 film stunt credits.

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:00 pm

12 goals shipped in 3 games. Dejavu

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:00 pm

Only McNeil looked pl quality today. Gave full back a torrid time ( who should have been sent off) but no other positives whatsoever. Can’t wait for the marks !!!!

Lord_Bob · Post by **Lord_Bob** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:00 pm

BennyD I might be the first to say but, despite this shitshow there's no one else I'd rather have in charge.

Agree 100%.

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:02 pm

Mcneill MOM today. Everybody else - meh

ewanrob · Post by **ewanrob** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:03 pm

ElectroClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:51 pm
Were you complaining when we were battering West Ham and Watford and beating Everton?
No you weren't , so shut the fcuk up and try to find a bit of backbone.

3 of the most shocking teams I've seen in a good long while...hardly anything to hang onto. He is a great motivational leader, but his tactics are p*** poor

PremierLeagueClass · Post by **PremierLeagueClass** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:03 pm

Longsidebogs wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:56 pm
We really need to let McNeil go in January. He is a million miles better than Burnley. It’s not even funny that he got in the starting 11 by accident.

I’m not sure if you’re just a rovers fan on a wind up... No player is better than Burnley. We gave him his chance don’t forget. Cast off by the big boys.

John Johnson 1605 · Post by **John Johnson 1605** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:06 pm

There’s the usual shite being spouted following a defeat to this year’s Champion’s League finalist.

Time for Dyche to stand down and I’m not renewing my season ticket.........

Absolute morons.

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:07 pm

This forum was much Better when no one could log on.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:12 pm

CombatClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:56 pm
I suggested we could spend big eg: Che Adam and it's no guarantee of success. You reply

if he was given 100 million he wouldn't sign Che Adams

So now you're stuck in a cycle saying both that it's the boards fault for not spending, but even if we did spend then Dyche's style of play makes it irreverent... Make your mind up.

Who said we would play the same way if he had better quality players ? I've certainly not suggested that, so carry on making stuff up

Leyland Claret · Post by **Leyland Claret** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:16 pm

McNeil was head and shoulders above any other Burnley player today and even though I want to keep our best players I hope he gets a good move in January because he deserves to flourish and not stagnate in our current squad which by the looks of it are dropping like a stone and heading towards the bottom 3.

ewanrob · Post by **ewanrob** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:20 pm

John Johnson 1605 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:06 pm
There’s the usual shite being spouted following a defeat to this year’s Champion’s League finalist.

Time for Dyche to stand down and I’m not renewing my season ticket.........

Absolute morons.

I really see where your coming from, but leaving apart what he has done...what hes been serving up for over a year now is shockingly poor...you cannot defend his tactics.

nyclaret · Post by **nyclaret** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:20 pm

Ben Gibson has surely got to be given a chance.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:20 pm

Ohhh well we move on .
No use dragging this on as we were not good enough today so close it at that .

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:21 pm

Poor as poor can be regardless of the opposition who have been very poor all season bar 3 games,all the blame lands on dyche and garlic make no mistake