• Burnley fan ejected at Spurs for racism

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:18 pm**

14 year old apparently. Racial slurs towards Son.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:22 pm**

Appalling. I don’t care what age he is, it’s unacceptable. Hopefully he will be dealt with appropriately by both clubs and the authorities.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:24 pm**

He’ll know full well what he did.

He’s apparently receiving education from Kick It Out. Not sure if that’s through whatever actions will be taken criminally.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:29 pm**

Glad he was dealt with.

Usual gobshites now tarring the whole town with the actions of a minority or brain donors. Which is nice.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:01 pm**

ZizkovClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:29 pm
Glad he was dealt with.

Usual gobshites now tarring the whole town with the actions of a minority or brain donors. Which is nice.

It’s happening virtually every week at one ground or another. Look at the bloke at the Manchester Derby. It’s shocking and it needs the strongest possible punishments.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:14 pm**

Good!! But where are the facts?

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:23 pm**

So if we sign a team full of oriental players will he not support Burnley ? Does the idiot at the Manchester Derby not support Walker and Sterling ? Does he cheer when Sterling scores ? Plain thick. Just ban adults for good. If this 14 year old got a 10 to 15 year ban he might learn the error of his ways. Doubt it will be that long though.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:42 pm**

Hit them hard in the pocket,and i'm talking in the thousands.Name them and Shame them.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:51 pm**

Tread Warily wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:42 pm
Hit them hard in the pocket,and i'm talking in the thousands.Name them and Shame them.

How's that going to work if they have little money. I'm all for jailing them. We're far too soft in this country. We need a Goverment to stop messing about and bring in proper sentences instead if this constant slap hands brigade.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:00 pm**

Just needs the equivalent of CAND or BAND or 'whatever your town begins with against nighttime disorder' whereby if you act like a dick in a pub then you are barred from every pub in the town.
So this young lad would end up with a nationwide football banning order for X years, as an example.

Get the fine, get banned from football and be put on a 'cultural awareness course' in the place where you committed the offence and bingo. This 14 year old lad has to travel to london every week for X weeks at his own cost (parents cost, probably) and inconvenience.
Make the punishment a proper ballache rather than a caution, community service or a fine.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:29 pm**

Club statement

Burnley Football Club is aware of an incident during the Tottenham Hotspur v Burnley game on Saturday, December 7.

During the Premier League game, a 13-year-old Burnley supporter was ejected from the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium following an alleged racist gesture towards Spurs player Heung-Min Son.

The minor, who was accompanied by a guardian, is now under investigation by the Metropolitan Police, with help from Lancashire Police and the two clubs.

In the meantime, Burnley Football Club will be contacting the teenager and his family, with a view to an enforced educational programme, run in conjunction with Kick It Out and Burnley FC in the Community.

Burnley Football Club would like to reiterate its zero-tolerance policy towards discrimination of any kind.

We will continue to work with the authorities to help eradicate the growing problem of discrimination within football, and we urge all our supporters to report any such issues, in the strictest confidence, via our dedicated matchday ‘Respect’ text service, on 66777, or the Kick It Out App.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:45 pm**

duncandisorderly wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:00 pm
Just needs the equivalent of CAND or BAND or 'whatever your town begins with against nighttime disorder' whereby if you act like a dick in a pub then you are barred from every pub in the town.
So this young lad would end up with a nationwide football banning order for X years, as an example.

Get the fine, get banned from football and be put on a 'cultural awareness course' in the place where you committed the offence and bingo. This 14 year old lad has to travel to london every week for X weeks at his own cost (parents cost, probably) and inconvenience.
Make the punishment a proper ballache rather than a caution, community service or a fine.

It should be an OTT punishment ( not saying it shouldn't be ) as its football related. Most football related crimes mean at least double ( most times multiple) of what the crime usually fetches if not at a football match.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:01 pm**

So a 13/14-year-old Claret has been ejected from Spurs ground for alleged racial abuse of Son. Not yet proven but people want him banned or whatever without him been proven guilty? somehow does not seem right to me but hardly surprising with the holier than thou attitude that prevails on this board.
Let's assume he is guilty does that mean he can be ejected from the ground, at a relatively young age , and put at the mercy of knife-wielding gangs
of violent Londoners.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:04 pm**

Lord Rothbury wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:01 pm
and put at the mercy of knife-wielding gangs
of violent Londoners.

Nurse, Nurse

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:07 pm**

Lord Rothbury wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:01 pm
So a 13/14-year-old Claret has been ejected from Spurs ground for alleged racial abuse of Son. Not yet proven but people want him banned or whatever without him been proven guilty? somehow does not seem right to me but hardly surprising with the holier than thou attitude that prevails on this board.
Let's assume he is guilty does that mean he can be ejected from the ground, at a relatively young age , and put at the mercy of knife-wielding gangs
of violent Londoners.

I'm just picturing it now. The stewards dragging him to the exits and there's 20 masked southerners in waiting.

Stewards: "Here you go boys."

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:08 pm**

Would you be happy if that was your boy?

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:11 pm**

Lord Rothbury wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:08 pm
Would you be happy if that was your boy?

No, I'd be ashamed at bringing up a d!ickhead.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:12 pm**

Lord Rothbury wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:08 pm
Would you be happy if that was your boy?

Which bit are you on about?

Being racist - not happy
chucked out with his gaurdian - meh
getting battered off a load of southern softies outside the ground - disowned

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:14 pm**

So again you assume his guilt. Nothing is proven and put onto the streets .Thank god you are not his father.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:17 pm**

Tread Warily wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:42 pm
Hit them hard in the pocket,and i'm talking in the thousands.Name them and Shame them.

That 13 year old should be hit hard in the pocket. Take his fruit pastels off him!

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:20 pm**

“Growing problem” it says in the statement.

******** says I.

It’s nowhere near as bad as it has been, especially in the 80’s when it was embarrassing most every week.

Nowhere near as prevalent as it was, but good to see it’s getting called out when it happens.

Phenomenal player that Son btw.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:22 pm**

Lord Rothbury wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:14 pm
So again you assume his guilt. Nothing is proven and put onto the streets .Thank god you are not his father.

Fair point what are we like assuming things, next we'll be imagining a gang of masked men waiting outside - it really is a slippery slope

Hows your meds today you sure youve took em?

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:22 pm**

It’s not that racism is increasing in this country far far from it it’s just that it’s getting called out more . The odd brain dead fan getting in a froth watching his team is nowt to do with racism but just badly educated imbeciles , you’ll find them anywhere tbf. They obviously find abusing a players because of his skin colour the easiest option

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:22 pm**

To say 13yr olds aren't allowed to roam around most football grounds or go the toilet on their own.
I wouldn't think stewards would let one roam around a rough as hell City on his own.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:24 pm**

They do not need masks in N London there are so many stabbings the police have given up.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:26 pm**

There are some real knobs attending football matches.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:27 pm**

I posted on another thread yesterday that I saw a group of 3 teenage lads involved in a lengthy discussion at half time with stewards and the Spurs safeguarding officer. This was in the tunnel under the away end. I’d wrongly thought it may have been because the kids had been threatened or worse, but now it seems it was this they were dealing with as one of the kids and an adult were led away whilst the rest were led back to their seats.

They (the Burnley fans, kids and adults) didn’t seem concerned enough for it to have been something as serious as this though and I didn’t witness the issue that led to this discussion.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:30 pm**

Lord Rothbury wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:24 pm
They do not need masks in N London there are so many stabbings the police have given up.

Because we don't have proper deterrents.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:40 pm**

At the moment it is alleged. However if proven and it was my child I'd look to myself first to see if I'd somehow influenced him then soul search.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:50 pm**

A fourteen year old is not criminally responsible. Lads act completely out of character at that age when they are with mates, and will say things they would never dream of saying otherwise.

Was he with his guardians? If so why were they not ejected?
Highly stupid wannabe tough guy with mates just as OTT, and probably saying similarly stupid things but not heard. Education is the only option, and an upbringing where he aspires rather than seeks to be one of the gang... but has that not always been the case around east Lancs, in an area where traditionally the kids were spat into factories not encouraged to achieve at school?

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:14 pm**

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Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:33 pm**

pushpinpussy wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:14 pm
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I agree!

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:38 pm**

The stewards at spurs were confrontational at wembley and by all accounts...this from spurs fans are troublemakers at the new ground to the point they think they're Arsenal supporters!! And going back a few years back didn't man utd have a gang of thugs as stewards? Tbh the ones I came across yesterday were fine. There were one or two Burnley tossas in town though.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:12 pm**

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50714808

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:19 pm**

The lad's 13. Who didn't do stupid things that they quickly regretted at a similar age?

We don't know the full story but, until we do, I'll be reserving judgement.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:21 pm**

They should make him attend a day centre when Burnley matches are on and make him watch a re-run of the Spurs match for the rest of the season.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:32 pm**

Foulthrow wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:19 pm
The lad's 13. Who didn't do stupid things that they quickly regretted at a similar age?

We don't know the full story but, until we do, I'll be reserving judgement.

"Reserving" Judgment?

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:33 pm**

Cheshireclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:27 pm
I posted on another thread yesterday that I saw a group of 3 teenage lads involved in a lengthy discussion at half time with stewards and the Spurs safeguarding officer. This was in the tunnel under the away end. I’d wrongly thought it may have been because the kids had been threatened or worse, but now it seems it was this they were dealing with as one of the kids and an adult were led away whilst the rest were led back to their seats.

They (the Burnley fans, kids and adults) didn’t seem concerned enough for it to have been something as serious as this though and I didn’t witness the issue that led to this discussion.

I saw that as well and thought it strange, the couple who were brought down from their seats didn’t seem to react as though they were his parents and the discussion went on for a good ten ten minutes.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:34 pm**

ClaretLoup wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:21 pm
They should make him attend a day centre when Burnley matches are on and make him watch a re-run of the Spurs match for the rest of the season.

Shudda made him stay till the end.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:56 pm**

There was some absolute idiots around me but sadly the norm for the more popular games these days

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:41 pm**

If guilty it is not good. But whoever is in charge of him should be the one who is punished as much as he is.

As a 13 year old kid clearly he is old enough to know better. But equally he needs educating not treating like he has murdered someone and possibly damaging him for the rest of his life over something unacceptable and naïve but something that can be dealt with.

Adults can change never mind 13 year old kids!

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:26 pm**

Homophobia is sadly still alive and well

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50710295

Is it any wonder no current players will come out in public,they'd be demonised by the morons.

You'd hope that in 21st century Britain such crass behaviour would have been eradicated,but there's always a minority of idiots who can't help being bigoted.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:34 pm**

elwaclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:50 pm
A fourteen year old is not criminally responsible. Lads act completely out of character at that age when they are with mates, and will say things they would never dream of saying otherwise.

Was he with his guardians? If so why were they not ejected?
Highly stupid wannabe tough guy with mates just as OTT, and probably saying similarly stupid things but not heard. Education is the only option, and an upbringing where he aspires rather than seeks to be one of the gang... but has that not always been the case around east Lancs, in an area where traditionally the kids were spat into factories not encouraged to achieve at school?

mistaken, 10 years old is age of criminal responsibility.

Posted: **Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:40 pm**

bobinho wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:20 pm
“Growing problem” it says in the statement.

******** says I.

It’s nowhere near as bad as it has been, especially in the 80’s when it was embarrassing most every week.

Nowhere near as prevalent as it was, but good to see it’s getting called out when it happens.

Phenomenal player that Son btw.

Growing problem only because it's brought on and carried by social media just like this.

A 13 year old has been a gobshite at the Footy, hold the front page.

Posted: **Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:29 am**

No prizes for guessing which way his parents would have voted in the referendum

Posted: **Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:35 am**

We should have his head chopped off, with “racist” tattooed across his young forehead, swinging from a lamppost on Harry Potts Way, with his adult companion chained to the bottom of the post as a deterrent to all.

Or we could follow the clubs lead, reaffirm that racism is completely unacceptable, denounce the kid publicly, and show it is not tolerated at any age. Then ensure he is re-educated,punished suitably.....and with some evidence.

Posted: **Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:36 am**

Burnley FC Supporters Groups have this morning issued a statement on this which is now on Up the Clarets at

https://www.uptheclarets.com/statement- ... ur-stadium

Posted: **Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:32 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:36 am
Burnley FC Supporters Groups have this morning issued a statement on this which is now on Up the Clarets at

https://www.uptheclarets.com/statement- ... ur-stadium

If there is sufficient proof, "an enforced education program" is a absolute joke of a resolution. Just sends a message that anyone get away with it once.

Posted: **Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:07 pm**

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:32 pm
If there is sufficient proof, "an enforced education program" is a absolute joke of a resolution. Just sends a message that anyone get away with it once.

I think an enforced education program is likely to be a PART of it.

Posted: **Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:24 pm**

damo_whitehead wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:56 pm
There was some absolute idiots around me but sadly the norm for the more popular games these days

And presumably all season ticket holders!!!!

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