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Gibson

Post by claretcarrot93 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:41 pm

Ex captain and made the England squad in his early 20's. Joint record signing.

Should he be given a chance now?

I would personally give him a run of games for Ben Mee.

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Re: Gibson

Post by tiger76 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:48 pm

It's weird how he's not been given a chance,i can understand Kev Long is happy enough to be a squad player,but Gibson surely left Boro to further his career,not to warm the bench every week.

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Re: Gibson

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:00 pm

If he cant dislodge Mee after his recent performances he never will

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Re: Gibson

Post by FactualFrank » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:04 pm

I think we all know that Gibson's only chance is if Mee suffered a knock and missed a game.

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Re: Gibson

Post by SGr » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:05 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:00 pm
If he cant dislodge Mee after his recent performances he never will
Was thinking the same this time last year...

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Re: Gibson

Post by ClaretAL » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:07 pm

I think Mee needs the captaincy removing, he was the same last year before Heaton returned to retake the captaincy. It's like the burden of the position has an effect on his game. But I also feel for Gibbson and of the cameos he has had he seems quite good and offered a different dimension in passing, a little like Keane was.
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Re: Gibson

Post by Funkydrummer » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:07 pm

Cracking guitars mind.
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Re: Gibson

Post by ClaretAndJew » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:22 pm

He probably doesn't smile enough in training and is sat with Vydra in the naughty corner.

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Re: Gibson

Post by bobinho » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:24 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:00 pm
If he cant dislodge Mee after his recent performances he never will
Mee wasn’t all that clever at the start of last season. Kept his place.

Ben Gibson was brought here as a first teamer, I’m absolutely convinced of that. No way on this planet have BFC paid double figure millions for a squad player/bench warmer. Not a chance in hell.

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Re: Gibson

Post by MACCA » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:25 pm

Takes a brave man to drop the club captain, given Mr Dyche doesn't like dropping people, I cant see this happening to be honest.

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Re: Gibson

Post by BOYSIE31 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:27 pm

bobinho wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:24 pm
Mee wasn’t all that clever at the start of last season. Kept his place.

Ben Gibson was brought here as a first teamer, I’m absolutely convinced of that. No way on this planet have BFC paid double figure millions for a squad player/bench warmer. Not a chance in hell.


ssssshhhhh dont say that on here - we have no money remember

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Re: Gibson

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:37 pm

If he was brought here as a first teamer why does he never play ?

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Re: Gibson

Post by Hipper » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:39 pm

Wasn't he brought in to prepare for Mee's imminent departure which didn't happen?

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Re: Gibson

Post by Tricky Trevor » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:47 pm

We need 3 at the back against the top 6. We get Mullered most times with our 4-4-2. They have too much pace and movement for our guys, especially when our CMid is lightweight.
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Re: Gibson

Post by JohnMac » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:48 pm

Be interesting to see if he moves to Leeds next month :?:

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Re: Gibson

Post by mickleoverclaret » Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:03 pm

Can't say I've ever been that impressed by Gibson when he's played. It's not long ago Mee was being talked up for an England cap- a couple of bad games doesn't make Gibson a better player, surely?

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Re: Gibson

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:04 pm

bobinho wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:24 pm
Mee wasn’t all that clever at the start of last season. Kept his place.

Ben Gibson was brought here as a first teamer, I’m absolutely convinced of that. No way on this planet have BFC paid double figure millions for a squad player/bench warmer. Not a chance in hell.
There's still people on here who swear blind Ben Mee was never going anywhere, despite him stalling on signing a new contract all summer.
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Re: Gibson

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:05 pm

mickleoverclaret wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:03 pm
Can't say I've ever been that impressed by Gibson when he's played. It's not long ago Mee was being talked up for an England cap- a couple of bad games doesn't make Gibson a better player, surely?
Don't think anyone outside of Burnley thinks Ben Mee should be anywhere near the England squad.

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Re: Gibson

Post by jojomk1 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:44 pm

bobinho wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:24 pm
Ben Gibson was brought here as a first teamer, I’m absolutely convinced of that. No way on this planet have BFC paid double figure millions for a squad player/bench warmer. Not a chance in hell.
Add Vydra to that conundrum

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Re: Gibson

Post by ClaretLoup » Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:54 pm

I think Mee should be put on notice, turn up against Newcastle and Bournemouth or Gibson is in vs Everton

Mee has been brilliant for us over the years, he has put his body and head on the line for the club
and has worked hard at improving his game. So he should be given a bit more leeway than most.

But anyone who thinks picking Gibson would have made much difference last Saturday needs to think again.
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Re: Gibson

Post by MACCA » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:02 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:04 pm
There's still people on here who swear blind Ben Mee was never going anywhere, despite him stalling on signing a new contract all summer.
There can't be many that still believe than, even more so that 2 years on we still haven't spent over that to bring in a first teamer.

You dont make cheap, risky, ageing signings for the squad ( before and after Gibson ) then all of a sudden break your transfer record on player to at best to sit on your bench.
Even more so a young club captain being touted for big things and England caps...

Remember we dont have much money.
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Re: Gibson

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:01 pm

Didn't realise that he signed a 4 year deal. So if we aren't willing to give him a chance or let him go he could be stuck here another season yet.

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Re: Gibson

Post by FCBurnley » Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:46 pm

How much competitive football at any level has Gibson played in the last 12 months ?

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Re: Gibson

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:02 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:46 pm
How much competitive football at any level has Gibson played in the last 12 months ?
He played against Everton on Boxing day and in our 2 FA Cup games last season, and then the cup game against Sunderland this year. Pretty sure that's it.

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Re: Gibson

Post by cloggerclaret » Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:12 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:02 pm
He played against Everton on Boxing day and in our 2 FA Cup games last season, and then the cup game against Sunderland this year. Pretty sure that's it.
I think you right,i cant see dyche dropping mee or tarky be nice to see gibson get some more game time

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Re: Gibson

Post by cloggerclaret » Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:13 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:02 pm
He played against Everton on Boxing day and in our 2 FA Cup games last season, and then the cup game against Sunderland this year. Pretty sure that's it.
I think you right,i cant see dyche dropping mee or tarky be nice to see gibson get some more game time

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Re: Gibson

Post by FactualFrank » Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:17 pm

I expect his next game will be Peterborough.

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Re: Gibson

Post by Murger » Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:52 pm

Gibson looked a quality prospect at Boro, such much so that he got an England call-up. Get him in.

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Re: Gibson

Post by gc14 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:52 pm

If Taylor isn't fit for saturday I would give Gibson a start at left-back ..
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Re: Gibson

Post by claretfern » Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:00 pm

I will be disappointed if he's not starting on Saturday.

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Re: Gibson

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:30 pm

claretfern wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:00 pm
I will be disappointed if he's not starting on Saturday.
Prepare to be disappointed :lol:

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Re: Gibson

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:36 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:17 pm
I expect his next game will be Peterborough.
Do you mean for Peterboro, Frank.
For whatever reason his career has stalled with us. :D

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Re: Gibson

Post by Winstonswhite » Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:46 pm

11 goals conceded in 11 games against sides outside the traditional “big six”. Five of those against in form Leicester and Sheffield Utd. With 5 clean sheets. It’s not that bad really.

We’ve conceded 18 in the 5 games against the “big sides! Now that IS bad.

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Re: Gibson

Post by dougcollins » Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:07 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:07 pm
Cracking guitars mind.

Overpriced.

Though I do have four.

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Re: Gibson

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:11 pm

As above like to see him in at left back Saturday if Taylor is out again.

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Re: Gibson

Post by dougcollins » Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:17 pm

mickleoverclaret wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:03 pm
Can't say I've ever been that impressed by Gibson when he's played. It's not long ago Mee was being talked up for an England cap- a couple of bad games doesn't make Gibson a better player, surely?


You've seen Gibson play?

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Re: Gibson

Post by otto1959 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:28 pm

I received his poppy day shirt today. :D

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Re: Gibson

Post by IanMcL » Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:30 pm

gc14 wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:52 pm
If Taylor isn't fit for saturday I would give Gibson a start at left-back ..
Fortunately, Mr D makes such decisions.

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Re: Gibson

Post by Greeny » Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:30 pm

Ben Mee would even be selected by the non Tinkerman Sean if he had a broken leg. Which tells you everything you need to know. Hence Sean will never manage one of the big teams.

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Re: Gibson

Post by Blackrod » Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:55 pm

How many games has he played in that we’ve won and what were his performances like ?

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Re: Gibson

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:56 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:30 pm
Fortunately, Mr D makes such decisions.
He couldn't be any worse than Pieters.

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Re: Gibson

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:59 pm

Blackrod wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:55 pm
How many games has he played in that we’ve won and what were his performances like ?
It's not really fair judging him when he just gets thrown into the stinking mess of one of our cup performances. He played the full game at home to Istanbul in the Europa league, where we kept a clean sheet against a good outfit.

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Re: Gibson

Post by Lord_Bob » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:16 pm

Agree that Mee not signing was a factor in signing Gibson, but can't see Mee being dropped, so unless we go 3 at the back with Taylor and Lowton (or Lennon) as "wing backs" not going to get a game.

Saying that:

Pope

Lowton (Lennon) Tarks Mee Gibson Taylor (or Brady who has previous at LB if Taylor injured)

3 from Westwood, Hendrick Cork, McNeil, Drinkwater

Wood Barnes

Might be an interesting line up.

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Re: Gibson

Post by claretfern » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:17 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:30 pm
Prepare to be disappointed :lol:
Absolutely....preparing already !

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Re: Gibson

Post by claret54 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:42 pm

Both Gison and Vydra were good buys in my opinion. We need as much quality back up as possible. They provide that. But luckily because of no injuries we haven't needed either.
On a personal viewpoint we can all have some sympathy for them both because they play so rarely.
But the club is stronger because we have them .We need them for the rest of the season.

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Re: Gibson

Post by bfcwest » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:53 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:30 pm
Fortunately, Mr D makes such decisions.
Yep, otherwise it could be worse than 5-0
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Re: Gibson

Post by Holtyclaret » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:53 pm

bobinho wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:24 pm
Mee wasn’t all that clever at the start of last season. Kept his place.

Ben Gibson was brought here as a first teamer, I’m absolutely convinced of that. No way on this planet have BFC paid double figure millions for a squad player/bench warmer. Not a chance in hell.
We paid that to have quality cover for injuries/suspensions. Gob smacking we haven’t had any.

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Re: Gibson

Post by superdimitri » Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:56 am

If Mee ever gets replaced who will be captain?

If he wasn't captain Gibson would have a much better chance right now.

Mee may be a good last ditch defender but he makes too many mistakes considering he is more of a no nonsense kind of centre half... If you are going to make mistakes at least bring something else to the team with the ball.. I feel Mee knows his weakness and is trying too hard to play more expansively for the modem game.

With Gibson in the team we'd have someone who feels far more natural playing out from the back. That should really help us take the game to teams when we expect a result.

I feel the change more likely to happen though will be Drinkwater. To shake things up with two changes rather than one will likely turn against us but I really would like to see Gibson given a proper chance.

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Re: Gibson

Post by MACCA » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:34 am

Holtyclaret wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:53 pm
We paid that to have quality cover for injuries/suspensions. Gob smacking we haven’t had any.
We have had injuries, it's the reason Hendrick played in the number 10 role t'other week...

Mr Dyche doesn't like or want to play Vydra for some reason, why do you think J-Rod was brought in for the 3rd forward slot and not a youngster brought in and Vydra used as number 3.

He was wanting to be moved on in the summer, it just all got a bit messy and we ended up stuck with him.

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Re: Gibson

Post by bobinho » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:55 am

Holtyclaret wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:53 pm
We paid that to have quality cover for injuries/suspensions. Gob smacking we haven’t had any.
And when Dyche was making Gibson an omelette, how do you think that conversation went?

“Righto Ben, you will be my second choice cover for either of the two centre halves, so if they don’t get injured or suspended, it’ll be the easiest 4 years of your life, sign there.”

Mate, seriously, we don’t pay that for first teamers, let alone bench warmers. Mee was off, or at least there was a bit of a worry he wouldn’t sign.

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