The UTC GE poll

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by martin_p » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:14 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:08 pm
Just been to the polling station. Not a hint of anyone under the age of 35, whilst I was there (a good 30 mins whilst talking with someone).

Labour performance is likely to be driven by da yoof turnout, wont it?
Typically those of working age will be there before or after work.

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:20 pm

I went to the polling station earlier and the majority were elderly, but it may just be the time of day.

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:21 pm

martin_p wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:14 pm
Typically those of working age will be there before or after work.
Beat me to it, that's my thinking too.

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by Belial » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:25 pm

It's a while since I voted Labour, and was always a Labour voter through teens/20's etc. but it's all become too tedious for my liking. Labour now are quite a scary prospect (Abbott...urghh) and for me, too willing to give handouts to those that don't deserve it, whereas the Tories are a bunch of liars who as always look after themselves and are happy to ruin public services and keep the divide between poverty and the elite as wide as possible....

So for me it's an independent (which will no doubt be incorrectly commented on as a waste of a vote) - 5

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by Darthlaw » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:26 pm

martin_p wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:14 pm
Typically those of working age will be there before or after work.
There were plenty of working age, just none under 35.

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:40 pm

Labour for me, pointless singling out diane abbot as the party lunatic, because every party has several.
I do not like many of the dullards within the labour ranks, nor do I care for wishy washy policies on certain issues. If however the alternative is Johnson and his elitist s*i*bag cohorts, then its an easy choice.
Labour have said they are about NHS support, and seem intent on doing the right things with transport, housing, and education.
Lesser of two evils probably, certainly not a good place to be as a voter thesedays, we are mainly led by liars.
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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by SalisburyClaret » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:47 pm

Tory
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Lifelong labour supporter, Grandfather founded a Trade Union but this isn’t Labour any more, it’s not even new Labour
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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by gwills18 » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:51 pm

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by arise_sir_charge » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:57 pm

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Interesting that this poll saw the Conservatives storm into an early lead before Labour clawed it back a bit.......once their voters had got out of bed.

On a serious note, at some point in my voting life, I have voted for each of the 3 major parties. I wouldn't dream of voting for a party lead by Jeremy Corbyn.
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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by Roger Mellie » Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:06 pm

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Quite depressing how , over the last 30 years I've drifted from voting for the candidate / party I like the most to voting against the one I dislike the most. Hopefully a good hammering for Jezza would bring about the return of a Labour I could vote for..
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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by Claretmatt4 » Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:14 pm

Manchester based but from Accrington originally.

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by 2 Bee Holed » Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:16 pm

I live in Manchester.
I am voting SNP. Confidence 10. :x

For the first time in my life none of the English candidates deserve to be PM.
I have no confidence in any of them, where has the middle ground gone?
A middle of the road party would have a landslide victory.
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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:23 pm

what is alarming is the 14 million lazy b**t***s who can't be arsed voting at all. Imagine that. 14 million people who have no desire to shape the future and yet will doubtless moan at whatever outcome. Shame on them.

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:26 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:23 pm
what is alarming is the 14 million lazy b**t***s who can't be arsed voting at all. Imagine that. 14 million people who have no desire to shape the future and yet will doubtless moan at whatever outcome. Shame on them.
Some of them will genuinely not want to vote as they don't have confidence in any of them.

It's better to not vote than to spin coins.

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by CaptJohn » Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:31 pm

Tory 1
This is from a lifelong Union member. Can't allow Corbyn to wreck the economy.

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by summitclaret » Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:32 pm

Tory 6

To keep Corbyn and his even more loony shadow chancellor out and even more importantly ensure that the referendum vote is upheld. Democracy must win and for once the EU must not get it's bullying way. Heseltine, Blair, Major, Greive and Campbell et el are a disgrace.

Good to see that almost all leavers have worked out that BP is a wasted vote.
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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:39 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:47 pm
Tory
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Lifelong labour supporter, Grandfather founded a Trade Union but this isn’t Labour any more, it’s not even new Labour
Apologies for quoting just you but I do have a question for ex-labour supporters (genuine question, not a criticism):

I appreciate that you no longer support the party on it's current state but if your views are still "old labour", for want of a better phrase, how does this align with voting Tory?

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by ZizkovClaret » Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:44 pm

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by Rubstuds » Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:04 pm

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by Nonayforever » Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:17 pm

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by longsidepies » Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:28 pm

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by The Enclosure » Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:46 pm

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by Winstonswhite » Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:49 pm

Green 8

But in the Ribble Valley there’s little point in voting unless you’re a Tory, which is why we need PR

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by brexit » Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:09 pm

Always voted for the independent candidate in every other election but this time I have to vote to Tory because the country needs to move on.
Tory 7
https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/
Has labour at 38.5% tories at 38.1% too close to call I think.
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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by claretandy » Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:20 pm

Nice shoes Dianne...
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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by Top Claret » Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:29 pm

Yon lass and her cronies could form our next government. Ffs God help us

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by martin_p » Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:41 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:29 pm
Yon lass and her cronies could form our next government. Ffs God help us
Boris Johnson and his government consistently lie to the country but Diane Abbott is wearing odd shoes. ODD SHOES!!!

Give me the liars any day.
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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by cockneyclaret » Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:41 pm

Conservatives - 6

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:44 pm

martin_p wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:41 pm
Boris Johnson and his government consistently lie to the country but Diane Abbott is wearing odd shoes. ODD SHOES!!!

Give me the liars any day.
You should see what the other lass is wearing behind that red bag.

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by brexit » Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:51 pm

Not just odd shoes but it looks like a left shoe on a right foot

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by Guller Bull » Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:58 pm

Spoilt vote with "None of these are fit to Govern" Confidence level 1

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by levraiclaret » Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:07 pm

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At least our Eton, Guards and cash for questions guy has retired, need some tactical voting to keep the NHS Dr Tory out.
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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by tarkys_ears » Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:41 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:58 pm
Spoilt vote with "None of these are fit to Govern" Confidence level 1

You show em!

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by arise_sir_charge » Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:42 pm

Can I just point out that all this talk of "tactical voting" is utter ********. People thinking it's new and they are being in some way clever.

Surely, every vote placed in every election or ballot that has ever taken place can be considered to be tactical, as it's placed with a view to that person achieving the result they desire!

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by SalisburyClaret » Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:47 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:39 pm
Apologies for quoting just you but I do have a question for ex-labour supporters (genuine question, not a criticism):

I appreciate that you no longer support the party on it's current state but if your views are still "old labour", for want of a better phrase, how does this align with voting Tory?
Good question Mr Cat
It doesn’t align at all - but in a nutshell the current Labour Party has no clearly defined policies, they either sit on the fence or promise to do less or more than what others propose (imho) Lib Dem is just an opportunist bid for power. Tories seem to have the clearest idea of what they want to do and are the only choice left!

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:50 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:47 pm
Good question Mr Cat
It doesn’t align at all - but in a nutshell the current Labour Party has no clearly defined policies, they either sit on the fence or promise to do less or more than what others propose (imho) Lib Dem is just an opportunist bid for power. Tories seem to have the clearest idea of what they want to do and are the only choice left!
In that situation, would you consider just not voting? I did but my dislike of the tories made me vote tactically to try to stop them.

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by hbuzzard » Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:16 pm

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by Volvoclaret » Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:24 pm

BURNLEY
TORY 6
Go Boris, go Boris

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by ClaretAL » Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:30 pm

Burnley Trinity ward

Conservative x 4 in this household, all previously staunch Labour, not a chance this time due to betrayal from Julie Cooper and cant ever vote for someone like Corbyn and everything he stands for.
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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by NickBFC » Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:32 pm

Conservative 7.

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by Aclaret » Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:38 pm

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Labour don't represent the working man anymore.

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by IanMcL » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:00 pm

Volvoclaret wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:24 pm

Go Boris, go Boris
I agree with that - f off.
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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by IanMcL » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:02 pm

Aclaret wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:38 pm
Conservative 6
Labour don't represent the working man anymore.
That is the silliest comment ever. Have you seen the manifesto?

Have you seen what the Tory toffs are offering you?

Think again!

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by Elizabeth » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:03 pm

Conservative 1

Don't trust a word Johnson says , can't actually stand him, but if he gets a Conservative majority the Withdrawal Agreement will get through Parliament.

This election has always been a People's v Parliament battle for me

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by Hipper » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:39 pm

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The Greens have the main priority right. All I can hope for is that they will get a large total of votes (even though these are unlikely to lead to many seats) which will make a statement to the new government.

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by Aclaret » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:43 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:02 pm
That is the silliest comment ever. Have you seen the manifesto?

Have you seen what the Tory toffs are offering you?

Think again!
Ian, thanks for the advice, it's not the 1960s, as a younger man I would vote Labour without thinking but not anymore.

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by SalisburyClaret » Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:20 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:50 pm
In that situation, would you consider just not voting? I did but my dislike of the tories made me vote tactically to try to stop them.
My vote doesn't really count anyway - it's a farming community so it's a massive Tory stronghold whether I vote or not. Maybe if it was a different situation that would be a good solution

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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by bfcjg » Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:27 pm

So reluctant to do so but Tory
6
Voted tactically, so wanted to vote for Burnley and Padiham independent party but I reckon the anti marxists vote has to unite to get Cooper out.
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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by shulgin » Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:34 pm

Spoilt ballot
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Re: The UTC GE poll

Post by Inchy » Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:34 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:30 pm
Burnley Trinity ward

Conservative x 4 in this household, all previously staunch Labour, not a chance this time due to betrayal from Julie Cooper and cant ever vote for someone like Corbyn and everything he stands for.


Only your vote will count in this poll, unless of course your household also vote on here

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