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Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:45 pm
by Inchy
Who will it be?
I am hoping for Angela Rayner. Soft left and female so will be more electable.
I truly hope momentum pi55 off
They have been more damaging to the Labour Party than Farage was to the tories
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:47 pm
by IanMcL
Nicola Sturgeon
SNP is being asked to take over Labour, so there is a proper leader!
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:50 pm
by thatdberight
Depends what happens. If normal people take control again, it could be anyone.
None of my business since I am not a supporter but not Rayner if they have any sense. She sounds thick as. That may not be fair or true. But she does. And it matters. Burnham would play well in many places. Starmer comes across as having some substance but may pay the price for having been Corbyn's bag nan for his most disastrous policy.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:51 pm
by LordBob
any primate I expect, nice animals show honesty, genuine now that would make a change.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:52 pm
by thatdberight
LordBob wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:51 pm
any primate I expect, nice animals show honesty, genuine now that would make a change.
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Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:54 pm
by jrgbfc
Andy Burnham has always come across pretty well to me.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:55 pm
by Blackrod
Dianne Abbott
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:55 pm
by Nonayforever
Whoever the unions want to put in place.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:56 pm
by Bosscat
A mate of mine who has a box at Westminster reckons the deal is done to take Dyche as leader of the Labour Party.
Who would you replace him with?
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:59 pm
by LordBob
Bosscat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:56 pm
A mate of mine who has a box at Westminster reckons the deal is done to take Dyche as leader of the Labour Party.
Who would you replace him with?
brilliant ha ha
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:59 pm
by Rowls
Just hope it's not another Momentum stooge.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:10 pm
by taio
jrgbfc wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:54 pm
Andy Burnham has always come across pretty well to me.
He's not a MP.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:12 pm
by LoveCurryPies
Labour’s Brexit supporters who switched to vote for Boris, might have just voted for the privatisation of the NHS.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:12 pm
by Stayingup
Inchy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:45 pm
Who will it be?
I am hoping for Angela Rayner. Soft left and female so will be more electable.
I truly hope momentum pi55 off
They have been more damaging to the Labour Party than Farage was to the tories
Farage isn't a Tory. Are you upset or something?
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:14 pm
by taio
LoveCurryPies wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:12 pm
Labour’s Brexit supporters who switched to vote for Boris, might have just voted for the privatisation of the NHS.
Absolute ********.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:15 pm
by Inchy
Stayingup wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:12 pm
Farage isn't a Tory. Are you upset or something?
He was.
I’m upset labour are not electable yes. Most traditional labour voters are. Are you a traditional Tory voter?
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:15 pm
by HunterST_BFC
Andy Burnham should have been leader.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:16 pm
by Bfcboyo
LoveCurryPies wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:12 pm
Labour’s Brexit supporters who switched to vote for Boris, might have just voted for the privatisation of the NHS.
It could do with it to be honest. It is a shambles and clearly long term it is unsustainable due to red tape and advancement of medicine. To get a better health care those of us who can afford it should pay more towards it. With some form of NHS left behind for the poorest in society.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:18 pm
by Stayingup
Actually if the exit polls prove to be correct this could signal the end of the Labour party. Their MP's had t3ge chance to get rid of Corbyn but they didn't have the balls to. . Serves them right.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:19 pm
by tim_noone
jrgbfc wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:54 pm
Andy Burnham has always come across pretty well to me.
Is that the northern powerhouse chappy
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:22 pm
by Inchy
thatdberight wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:50 pm
Depends what happens. If normal people take control again, it could be anyone.
None of my business since I am not a supporter but not Rayner if they have any sense. She sounds thick as. That may not be fair or true. But she does. And it matters. Burnham would play well in many places. Starmer comes across as having some substance but may pay the price for having been Corbyn's bag nan for his most disastrous policy.
She sounds like me. She’s northern. Nothing wrong with a northern accent. She’s more real life experience than all of the other leaders combined.
She’s soft left. She’s female. She’s normal. She’s relatable
Far more electable
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:27 pm
by jrgbfc
tim_noone wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:19 pm
Is that the northern powerhouse chappy
He's the mayor of Manchester, which I always found a bit strange seeing as he's a Scouser!
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:49 pm
by FCBurnley
Imploding Turtle ?
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:50 pm
by Rowls
* Imploded Turtle
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:51 pm
by LoveCurryPies
The exit poll is not an exact science.
The predicted 368 seats for Boris & the Conservatives might be less....
....or it could be nearer to 400 seats.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:55 pm
by LoveCurryPies
taio wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:14 pm
Absolute ********.
Which part do you disagree with and why?
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:56 pm
by yTib
i reckon yvette cooper might fancy her chances.
corbyn should have seen the writing on the wall years ago.
boris johnson ffs. i feel like throwing myself under a bus.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:56 pm
by taio
LoveCurryPies wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:55 pm
Which part do you disagree with and why?
The privatisation of the NHS. Because it won't happen.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:03 am
by BennyD
Who cares? Momentum sniffed the air and they went for it and, by doing so, look to have completely f*cked the Labour Party. I hope this sends the message that Socialism/Communism/Marxism is dead but if it hasn’t, their future looks a rosy as a truck load of dead rats in a Tampax factory.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:04 am
by LoveCurryPies
taio wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:56 pm
The privatisation of the NHS. Because it won't happen.
If it happens, it will be a gradual privatisation and won’t happen overnight. Some might say, it has already begun.
(note: I am a huge supporter of the NHS....it’s the greatest thing this country has ever done).
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:14 am
by Paul Waine
Bfcboyo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:16 pm
It could do with it to be honest. It is a shambles and clearly long term it is unsustainable due to red tape and advancement of medicine. To get a better health care those of us who can afford it should pay more towards it. With some form of NHS left behind for the poorest in society.
The country should take a look at how the health services are organised in Netherlands and Germany and one or two other European countries.
Cheeky suggestion: we do a free trade deal with EU - and let Netherlands and Germany run the UK health service.
That would unite the leave and remainers.
EDIT: Oops, sorry, I forgot this was a thread about the next leader of the Labour party. Main criteria, someone who knows that Ralph Milliband was wrong. Yvette Cooper, maybe or maybe not. Andy Burnham - I like Andy, but Northern Powerhouse will need him for at least another 5 years. Jess Phillips, maybe - especially if she can strongly channel the memory of Jo Cox.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:35 am
by aggi
I imagine it will be Starmer when the next election comes round. I suspect the next one will be the David Moyes equivalent though.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:53 am
by BennyD
Diane Abbott. She couldn’t be worse than Corbin.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:53 am
by FCBurnley
Won’t be Julie Cooper haha
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:20 am
by Taffy on the wing
Bfcboyo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:16 pm
It could do with it to be honest. It is a shambles and clearly long term it is unsustainable due to red tape and advancement of medicine. To get a better health care those of us who can afford it should pay more towards it. With some form of NHS left behind for the poorest in society.
Biggest ****** on this board by a street!
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:53 am
by Woodleyclaret
Andy"Powerhouse" Burnham
Corbyn was always going to wreck the Labour Party time to go
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:27 am
by Bfcboyo
Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:20 am
Biggest ****** on this board by a street!
You sit in a small minority. Your thoughts , vote , opinions are in the shadows or behind a keyboard alias. We are the people the voice of the nation and the majority.
Now hopefully you and about 8 other goons on here who feel the need to be heard loudest , spouting the same boring hippy rhetoric will dissappear into the shadows where you belong.
One nation , one vote. Common sense has prevailed and your liberal utopia is not what we want . The country the people have spoken loudly. Maybe you should listen or sit quietly in the corner .
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:49 am
by Sproggy
Angela Raynor? Really? She's as thick as mince. She'd get shredded in any debate where she has to think on her feet.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:59 am
by joey13
LoveCurryPies wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:04 am
If it happens, it will be a gradual privatisation and won’t happen overnight. Some might say, it has already begun.
(note: I am a huge supporter of the NHS....it’s the greatest thing this country has ever done).
It began over 10 years ago
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:01 am
by AndrewJB
Bfcboyo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:16 pm
It could do with it to be honest. It is a shambles and clearly long term it is unsustainable due to red tape and advancement of medicine. To get a better health care those of us who can afford it should pay more towards it. With some form of NHS left behind for the poorest in society.
This didn’t take long. If you don’t have money, your healthcare is going to be second or third rate?
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:02 am
by Bfcboyo
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:12 am
by RMutt
I honestly do not think it will make any difference. Foot, Miiliband and Kinnock have all been on the end of the rights ire. Labour have to be a watered down Tory party to ever stand a chance.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:20 am
by Steve-Harpers-perm
They need a centre left leader if they appoint anyone connected to Corbyn they will be finished as a party. Noticed David Milliband tweeted last night about the state of the Labour Party wonder if he’s preparing a return to Uk politics.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:42 am
by EarbyClaret
Angela Rayner is authentic and someone the traditional Labour vote who seem to have deserted in their droves, particularly in the North, could better relate to.
Given her background she has the potential to be the voice for some of the most vulnerable in society - who are going to need all the help they can get from somewhere.
I don't see Kier Starmer or a similar type candidate cutting it with the people who feel they've been completely cut adrift from what Labour used to mean to them.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:39 am
by houseboy
Stayingup wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:18 pm
Actually if the exit polls prove to be correct this could signal the end of the Labour party. Their MP's had t3ge chance to get rid of Corbyn but they didn't have the balls to. . Serves them right.
The Labour party were declared dead in the Thatcher era but reports of their death were greatly exagerated. They will re-group and probably win the next election. This one was simply (and wrongly) about Brexit. Another 4/5 years of Tory cuts and privatisations will have soured things come then. Swings and roundabouts I think they call it.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:07 am
by mdd2
Most of the 500,000 members joined under Jeremy so the risk is there will be Jeremy Mach 2
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:09 am
by chorleyhere
Just a point to note by all the Conservative backers - when Brexit in whatever form is eventually, I repeat eventually achieved, the resulting state of the economy will all be down to the Conservatives. There can't be any referring back to the empty treasury myth or blame on Labour or any of the other parties, The government of the day will be the ones to take all the scrutiny and slogans on the side of a bus will pale into insignificance with the reality of the outcome.
The Labour Party will need a strong, coherent, pragmatic leader in the mould of Nicola Sturgeon.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:26 am
by Bosscat
mdd2 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:07 am
Most of the 500,000 members joined under Jeremy so the risk is there will be Jeremy Mach 2
Is that the Supersonic Jezza with swept back Delta wings and a drooping nose ....
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:32 am
by Stayingup
houseboy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:39 am
The Labour party were declared dead in the Thatcher era but reports of their death were greatly exagerated. They will re-group and probably win the next election. This one was simply (and wrongly) about Brexit. Another 4/5 years of Tory cuts and privatisations will have soured things come then. Swings and roundabouts I think they e call it.
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Oh I'm sure Labour will re-group. But its going to be a long haul.
You mention cuts. When a country is left in financial dire straits as the Tories inherited can you suggest how to repair the damage? Increasing taxes wont wash as has been proven in this election result.
Re: Next labour leader?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:35 am
by IanMcL
Yvette Cooper showed some balls, far too late, when Mr C first won. She might secure a base. However, it is probably a member of the left, who will be assassinated by the media, for years to come.