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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:06 pm
by RalphCoatesComb
Pope 7
Bardsley 6
Tarkowski 7
Mee 8
Pieters 5
Hendrick 6
Westwood 6
Cork 8 (MOM) Would have been a 9 had his run ended with a goal
McNeil 7
Barnes 6
Wood 6
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:06 pm
by ClaretAL
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:10 pm
Pope 6
Bardsley 7
Tarkowski 8
Mee 7
Pieters 7
Hendrick 7
Westwood 9
Cork 8
McNeil 6
Barnes 6
Wood 7
I dont do the marks but if i did this mirrors what i would have said. The manager would have laid the gauntlet down on dont loose, and as a Team the defensive duties were good, and we could have been more on point in attack.
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:17 pm
by IanMcL
Pope 6
Bardsley 6
Tarkowski 7
Mee 7
Pieters 6
Hendrick 6
Westwood 8
Cork 8
McNeil 7
Barnes 7
Wood 7
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:09 pm
by Flat Stanley
Pope 6
Bardsley 6
Tarks 8 (Goliath)
Mee 7
Pieters 5
Hendrick 4
Cork 8
Westwood 6
McNeil 7
Barnes 6
Wood 5
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:26 pm
by damo_whitehead
Pope 6
Bardsley 7
Tarkowski 8
Mee 7
Pieters 7
Hendrick 7
Westwood 7
Cork 8
McNeil 6
Barnes 7
Wood 6
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:40 pm
by claretspice
Rigid 4-4-2 meets negative 4-5-1 is always going to be an uninspired game, even more so in these conditions, and the first goal was always likely to be pivotal. Fortunately unlike the similar Palace game, we got it.
Pope - 7 - One fumble aside did very well with the crosses on what was a difficult afternoon with a swirling wind. As a shot stopper he was literally untroubled.
Bardsley - 6 - Couple of dubious movements and his distribution is increasingly unrefined, but kept us solid enough.
Pieters - 6 - Pretty much as per Bardsley, although if anything his distribution was worse.
Tarkowski - 9 - Herculean effort against Carroll and pretty much faultless. Think he played through when lesser characters might have come off, too.
Mee - 8 - Solid and brave when Carroll tried to pull onto him.
Cork - 7 - Did a fine job defensively and helped the centre backs immensely by screening Carroll. In possession he did OK, but at times we needed a touch more composure from him. Unlucky with his chance - didn't do too much wrong and made it all himself - but he's in decent form right now/
Westwood - 7 - Tidy enough, even if he too could have been a bit more composed on the ball at times.
Hendrick - 7 - Good afternoon's work on the right hand side, giving the full back the protection we lacked at Spurs last week, and steady if unremarkable in possession.
McNeil - 7 - spent a lot of time in the middle of the park, which often coincided with our better play, but in the process it deprived of us of our only really attacking outlet on either flank.
Barnes - 5 - He's rarely effective in these sorts of tight, tough games when teams sit with a deep block, and a handful of nice touches aside, this was no exception.
Wood - 7 - ran the channels well enough, and his link up play was OK, but he's rarely comfortable when invited to drop short and our link up play became a little stilted as a result. However, took his goal well and did carry a threat.
Rodriguez - not on long enough, but his touch was tidy enough.
No classic at all, but we needed the result. In truth, this is precisely the sort of game in which Barnes and Wood - and therefore by extension the team - have struggled in recent times, and at 0-0 the game was always likely to go to the team that scored first or fizzle out into a non-event of a draw. Fortunately we got the goal, and then held out without too much by way of concern against an unambitious Newcastle team who, once we had no need to leave ourselves open to the counter, didn't really offer anything apart from a launch in the direction of Carroll.
But even though we got the result, I tend to think this squad has more to offer than we were able to show today. Barnes and Wood are a wonderful front two against teams that take liberties or can be bulled. Against the likes of Newcastle (and Palace), who were never likely to fall into either bracket, a bit more subtlety is required. As it was, their lack of craft in tight spaces was a bit exposed. With two full backs who offer relatively little in attack, and Hendrick more of a water-carrier than creator in his wide right role, all the onus to create fell to McNeil. With Newcastle working hard to shut down his opportunities out wide, he increasingly came narrow, roaming and finding space and using his skill to move the ball to where defenders don't want to be. That's fine, but given the set up of the rest of the team it left us with no width at all, and our attacks became narrow, congested and a bit predictable as a result.
If McNeil is going to come narrow, we might as well start with him in that role and bring in an extra creative presence like Brady (or when fit) JBG. But if we're going to play 4-4-2, then Rodriguez offers more guile and subtlety than Barnes, and a better touch in tight areas, and his ability to drift wide would allow him into interchange with McNeil and offer a different threat.
Anyway, we won today, so all is good, and we defended well and just about shaded the result. But if we can make ourselves a little less predictable, we'll be a better team on these occasions.
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:43 pm
by TVC15
Tough watch as our confidence has been knocked and we were playing against a team that came for a point in what was difficult conditions. For those criticising our style of football compared to how they played with those 2 lumps up front we were like Barcelona !!
Pope : 7 - had little to do.
Bardsley : 7 - tidy and wish he would have played against Spurs as at least he would have kicked Son early doors !
Mee : 7 - dealt with their 2 donkeys well.
Tarks : 7 - ditto
Pieters : 6 - played ok but do think Taylor offers us so much more.
Cork : 8 - full of energy.
Westwood : 8 (MoM) - we are a much better team with him in it.
Hendrick : 6 - struggled to influence the game but think he put a really good shift in
McNeil : 7 - as per most weeks we rely on him massively for our creative stuff and providing a spark to get us going. He never hides and for such a young lad it’s great to see his bravery to take on the pressure (knocking him a mark off for not booting the ball down the line in injury time and losing the ball !)
Barnes : 6 - bit rusty but thought he played well in second half.
Wood : 7 - got beaten in the air a lot by their centre backs except when it mattered !
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:28 pm
by Colburn_Claret
Pope 6
Bardsley 7
Tarks 6
Mee 7
Pieters 7
Hendrick 6
Cork 7
Westwood 7
McNeil 6
Barnes 6
Wood 7
Rubbish game, we were poor, Newcastle were worse.
We deserved the 3 pts and they were sorely needed.
Started off a lot more positively, then faded, came back better in 2nd half.
Gripe of the day, and the season is how slow we pass the ball. We regularly pick the right pass, but the weight of the pass means a one legged duck could pick it off. We never seem to learn. Of all the teams I've watched over the last 2 seasons we are definitely the worst, even the teams that get relegated move the ball better than us. I would have thought its something we would work on on the training pitch, but you'd never believe it.
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:50 pm
by MT03ALG
Pope 8
Bardsley 7
Pieters 6
Tarkowski 8
Mee 8
Hendrick 6
Cork 8
Westwood 9
McNeill 7
Wood 7
Barnes 8
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:10 pm
by Dark Cloud
Pope 7
Bardsley 7 (Weird how he kicked the ball out for their player diving over, but not when Pieters was clearly hurt! Bozo!!!)
Takrs 7
Mee 7
Pieters 5
Cork 7 (Fantastic at times and so much like his old self, but then sloppy and ponderous at other times)
Westwood 8* (Made the difference and showed how important he has become)
Hendrick 7
McNeil 8
Barnes 8 (Held the ball up, won his share of headers, battled hard and this referee hasn't yet seen enough of his antics so fell for most of his comedy free kicks!!)
Wood 7
Jayrod 6
A hard game to score, especially with the weather playing its part. Winning always tends to cause scores to move upwards, but tbh I thought we had spells during the game where we weren't at all good, yet we also had spells where we were REALLY good and the performances of individual players seemed to mirror that imo. Cork was brilliant at times, but very sloppy at others. Whatever your thoughts on Carroll, if he's fit and if he's not trying to batter somebody, he's a handful and he gave our CB's a really hard time and I felt there was goal threat there which scared me. Shelvey not playing was probably a real bonus also as it helped our midfield dominate after 3 poor games. Overall I thought we just about deserved to win it and if we'd accepted one or two of our other chances we wouldn't have been so nervous at the end! A massive 3 points which keeps our heads above water!
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:14 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:12 pm
Staggering some of the low marks - there were no 4s and no 5s out there today in dreadful conditions but I see Pieters & Hendrick, as usual, are being targeted.
You’ve to remember quite a lot of them don’t go on and just like to whinge about stuff. Poor Vegas has no idea about anything
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:14 pm
by fungus_the_bogeyman
Pope 6
Bardsley 7
Pieters 6
Tarkowski 8
Mee 7
Hendrick 7
McNeil 8
Westwood 8* - welcome back!
Cork 8
Wood 7
Barnes 7
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:55 pm
by Burnleyareback2
Not a great game. I’m happy to admit that we need Wood in the team, but if he didn’t get the goal today his only other highlight would of been having a ball kicked at him by a Newcastle player.
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:07 am
by Colburn_Claret
claretspice wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:40 pm
Rigid 4-4-2 meets negative 4-5-1 is always going to be an uninspired game, even more so in these conditions, and the first goal was always likely to be pivotal. Fortunately unlike the similar Palace game, we got it.
Pope - 7 - One fumble aside did very well with the crosses on what was a difficult afternoon with a swirling wind. As a shot stopper he was literally untroubled.
Bardsley - 6 - Couple of dubious movements and his distribution is increasingly unrefined, but kept us solid enough.
Pieters - 6 - Pretty much as per Bardsley, although if anything his distribution was worse.
Tarkowski - 9 - Herculean effort against Carroll and pretty much faultless. Think he played through when lesser characters might have come off, too.
Mee - 8 - Solid and brave when Carroll tried to pull onto him.
Cork - 7 - Did a fine job defensively and helped the centre backs immensely by screening Carroll. In possession he did OK, but at times we needed a touch more composure from him. Unlucky with his chance - didn't do too much wrong and made it all himself - but he's in decent form right now/
Westwood - 7 - Tidy enough, even if he too could have been a bit more composed on the ball at times.
Hendrick - 7 - Good afternoon's work on the right hand side, giving the full back the protection we lacked at Spurs last week, and steady if unremarkable in possession.
McNeil - 7 - spent a lot of time in the middle of the park, which often coincided with our better play, but in the process it deprived of us of our only really attacking outlet on either flank.
Barnes - 5 - He's rarely effective in these sorts of tight, tough games when teams sit with a deep block, and a handful of nice touches aside, this was no exception.
Wood - 7 - ran the channels well enough, and his link up play was OK, but he's rarely comfortable when invited to drop short and our link up play became a little stilted as a result. However, took his goal well and did carry a threat.
Rodriguez - not on long enough, but his touch was tidy enough.
No classic at all, but we needed the result. In truth, this is precisely the sort of game in which Barnes and Wood - and therefore by extension the team - have struggled in recent times, and at 0-0 the game was always likely to go to the team that scored first or fizzle out into a non-event of a draw. Fortunately we got the goal, and then held out without too much by way of concern against an unambitious Newcastle team who, once we had no need to leave ourselves open to the counter, didn't really offer anything apart from a launch in the direction of Carroll.
But even though we got the result, I tend to think this squad has more to offer than we were able to show today. Barnes and Wood are a wonderful front two against teams that take liberties or can be bulled. Against the likes of Newcastle (and Palace), who were never likely to fall into either bracket, a bit more subtlety is required. As it was, their lack of craft in tight spaces was a bit exposed. With two full backs who offer relatively little in attack, and Hendrick more of a water-carrier than creator in his wide right role, all the onus to create fell to McNeil. With Newcastle working hard to shut down his opportunities out wide, he increasingly came narrow, roaming and finding space and using his skill to move the ball to where defenders don't want to be. That's fine, but given the set up of the rest of the team it left us with no width at all, and our attacks became narrow, congested and a bit predictable as a result.
If McNeil is going to come narrow, we might as well start with him in that role and bring in an extra creative presence like Brady (or when fit) JBG. But if we're going to play 4-4-2, then Rodriguez offers more guile and subtlety than Barnes, and a better touch in tight areas, and his ability to drift wide would allow him into interchange with McNeil and offer a different threat.
Anyway, we won today, so all is good, and we defended well and just about shaded the result. But if we can make ourselves a little less predictable, we'll be a better team on these occasions.
I'd meant to mention on my marks about McNeil moving inside. It left Pieters looking for a pass down the line. He still did ok, but i think he plays better, and the opposition fear him more when he sticks to the line. If hes not defending he should be stood on the whitewash.
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:51 am
by cockneyclaret
Pope 6
Bardsley 6
Tarkowski 7
Mee 6
Pieters 6
Hendrick 5
Westwood 7
Cork 7
McNeil 7
Barnes 6
Wood 6
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:31 am
by ashtonlongsider
Another match that won't live long in the memory but it was all about the 3 points, and we got them, so relieved and pleased to stop the rot.
Pope 6-not much to do.
Bardsley 6-Solid, certainly adds some grit.
Tarkowski 7-Thought he did well and wasn't bullied by Carroll
Mee 7-A warrior performance, more like what we expect from Ben.
Pieters 6-Not his greatest fan but felt he did ok yesterday.
Hendrick 4-Plenty of running around but very little end product imo. Should have been pulled earlier for Jayrod
Westwood 7-Thought he battled well and a relief for him to be back.
Cork 8-Another excellent performance. My MOM
McNeil 7-Our biggest threat offensively but he can be careless. Not being critical as he's still learning.
Barnes 6-Typical Barnsey but he didn't have a massive impact on the game.
Wood 7-Think he was a constant threat and worked hard.
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:12 am
by Roosterbooster
Pope 6 Nothing to do
Bardsley 6 Likewise
Pieters 7 Couple of important interventions
Mee 6 Easy day really
Tarks 6 Same
Cork 6 Decent, but no excuse for missing his sitter. It wasn't a good save, it went straight at him. Could have just rolled it into the far corner
Westwood 7 MoM. Missed him, alot. Great corner
McNeil 7 Occasional spark, solid performance
Hendrick 6 Defensively sound, didnt really notice any forward work
Barnes 7 Kept their back line occupied, took the ball down to retain possession beautifully quite a few times, essentially scored the goal for Wood
Wood 6 Frustrates the life out of me. Doesn't work hard enough. Didn't bother to run the channels so many times when that was the only ball on - just wanted to stay central, and meant we lost the ball. Clueless when the ball came out to him with Dubravka off his line. Probably offside and nowhere near controlling the ball when 1on1 near the end. And still nearly missed the easiest chance of the lot for the goal. I know most people disagree, but I just think he isnt good enough
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:43 am
by TVC15
Roosterbooster wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:12 am
Wood 6 Frustrates the life out of me. Doesn't work hard enough. Didn't bother to run the channels so many times when that was the only ball on - just wanted to stay central, and meant we lost the ball. Clueless when the ball came out to him with Dubravka off his line. Probably offside and nowhere near controlling the ball when 1on1 near the end. And still nearly missed the easiest chance of the lot for the goal. I know most people disagree, but I just think he isnt good enough
You must have been the same bloke near me in the LJM who shouted at Wood for not controlling a ball that had come down from the sky in a swirling wind - unbelievably stupid comment.
And then you say he nearly missed....or as normal people would say “he scored” !!
You are right about one thing though - most people do disagree
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:04 am
by Sproggy
Pope 7
Bardsley 7
Tarkowski 7
Mee 7
Pieters 6
Hendrick 5
Westwood 5
Cork 6
McNeil 5
Barnes 5
Wood 6
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:30 am
by Zenwisdom
Pope 6
Pieters 6
Bardsley 7 solid
Tarks 7
Mee 7 having to distribute the ball that Westwood and Hendrick should be doing .
Cork 8 decent
Westwood 5 passes backwards easy option
Hendrick 5 not wide player
McNeill 6 out muscled
Wood 6 feed of scraps
Barns 5
Hoof ball not easy on the eye
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:31 am
by strayclaret
Pope 6
Bardsley 6
Tarkowski 8
Mee 7
Pieters 6
Hendrick 6
Westwood 8
Cork 7
McNeil 7
Barnes 6
Wood 6
Just "what the doctor ordered" after a bad week, against a physical disappointing side. 3 points is 3 points
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:04 pm
by the_magic_rat
Pope 6
Bardsley 7
Tarkowski 8
Mee 8
Pieters 6
Hendrick 6
Westwood 6
Cork 8 MOM
McNeil 7
Wood 6
Barnes 7
Rodriguez 6
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:07 pm
by SalisburyClaret
Pope 7
Bardsley 7
Tarkowski 7
Mee 7
Pieters 6
Hendrick 6
Westwood 8 - pin point corners, great covering and fast passing - just what we’ve been missing
Cork 8 - more attack minded than he has been for years
McNeil 7
Barnes 7
Wood 7
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:49 pm
by Blackrod
Roosterbooster wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:12 am
Pope 6 Nothing to do
Bardsley 6 Likewise
Pieters 7 Couple of important interventions
Mee 6 Easy day really
Tarks 6 Same
Cork 6 Decent, but no excuse for missing his sitter. It wasn't a good save, it went straight at him. Could have just rolled it into the far corner
Westwood 7 MoM. Missed him, alot. Great corner
McNeil 7 Occasional spark, solid performance
Hendrick 6 Defensively sound, didnt really notice any forward work
Barnes 7 Kept their back line occupied, took the ball down to retain possession beautifully quite a few times, essentially scored the goal for Wood
Wood 6 Frustrates the life out of me. Doesn't work hard enough. Didn't bother to run the channels so many times when that was the only ball on - just wanted to stay central, and meant we lost the ball. Clueless when the ball came out to him with Dubravka off his line. Probably offside and nowhere near controlling the ball when 1on1 near the end. And still nearly missed the easiest chance of the lot for the goal. I know most people disagree, but I just think he isnt good enough
I think Wood showed flashes of being extremely good. He’s a very good player who we don’t get in the game enough and we don’t play to his strengths enough. We need to get it more on the deck and he can’t play up top on his own. He needs his strike partner. Wood is very underestimated imo and I’m glad we’ve got him.
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:15 pm
by Nonayforever
Dyche's game plan against Newcastle has always been to play a "spoiler" .
Crap to watch but gets the points.
" That's business Manny"
Pope 7
Bardsley 6
Tarks 7
Mee 8
Pieters 6
Hendrick 7
Westwood 8
Cork 8
McNeil 8 - he will be off before end of season
Wood 7
Barnes 7
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:24 pm
by Iloveyoubrady
Blackrod wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:49 pm
I think Wood showed flashes of being extremely good. He’s a very good player who we don’t get in the game enough and we don’t play to his strengths enough. We need to get it more on the deck and he can’t play up top on his own. He needs his strike partner. Wood is very underestimated imo and I’m glad we’ve got him.
I agree wood is a very good player and is improving. To say he is on 7 goals already after just 17 games, he could have 15+ by the end of the season, which is a great season for any striker apart from the agueros and kanes
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:23 pm
by Roosterbooster
TVC15 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:43 am
You must have been the same bloke near me in the LJM who shouted at Wood for not controlling a ball that had come down from the sky in a swirling wind - unbelievably stupid comment.
And then you say he nearly missed....or as normal people would say “he scored” !!
You are right about one thing though - most people do disagree
Strangely enough, I'm clearly not the only one who was disappointed with him. I didn't expect him to take it down like Messi, but he wasn't even close to controlling it - he didn't just miss it, he was miles away. And I don't see what is bizarre about saying he nearly missed. Yes he scored. I said that. But if you're struggling to hit the target from a yard out then it doesn't bode well. Had he been a foot further out he could have missed. He wasn't aiming to hit it off the bar was he!?!?
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:26 pm
by Ashingtonclaret46
Roosterbooster wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:23 pm
Strangely enough, I'm clearly not the only one who was disappointed with him. I didn't expect him to take it down like Messi, but he wasn't even close to controlling it - he didn't just miss it, he was miles away. And I don't see what is bizarre about saying he nearly missed. Yes he scored. I said that. But if you're struggling to hit the target from a yard out then it doesn't bode well. Had he been a foot further out he could have missed. He wasn't aiming to hit it off the bar was he!?!?
It's such an easy game when you are sat in the stand.
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:33 pm
by TVC15
Roosterbooster wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:23 pm
Strangely enough, I'm clearly not the only one who was disappointed with him. I didn't expect him to take it down like Messi, but he wasn't even close to controlling it - he didn't just miss it, he was miles away. And I don't see what is bizarre about saying he nearly missed. Yes he scored. I said that. But if you're struggling to hit the target from a yard out then it doesn't bode well. Had he been a foot further out he could have missed. He wasn't aiming to hit it off the bar was he!?!?
He didn’t struggle to hit the target though did he ? He scored a goal against a team whose centre backs have been excellent this year. I’m guessing you have never played football if you think it is easy scoring a header from a whipped in corner in a crowded penalty area when the ball is swirling in a strong wind.
If you are going to aim the ball anywhere of course it would be the underside of the bar - virtually impossible for a defender or a keeper to stop.
This really is a novel one even for this message board - our centre forward being criticised for scoring.
I’m not even going to comment again on your point about controlling that high ball - other than to repeat I think it’s a stupid comment.
You might be better off waiting for a game when Wood is not the match winner to criticise him.
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:53 pm
by KlyBfc
TVC15 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:33 pm
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Strangely enough, I'm clearly not the only one who was disappointed with him. I didn't expect him to take it down like Messi, but he wasn't even close to controlling it - he didn't just miss it, he was miles away. And I don't see what is bizarre about saying he nearly missed. Yes he scored. I said that. But if you're struggling to hit the target from a yard out then it doesn't bode well. Had he been a foot further out he could have missed. He wasn't aiming to hit it off the bar was he!?!?
He didn’t struggle to hit the target though did he ? He scored a goal against a team whose centre backs have been excellent this year. I’m guessing you have never played football if you think it is easy scoring a header from a whipped in corner in a crowded penalty area when the ball is swirling in a strong wind.
If you are going to aim the ball anywhere of course it would be the underside of the bar - virtually impossible for a defender or a keeper to stop.
This really is a novel one even for this message board - our centre forward being criticised for scoring.
I’m not even going to comment again on your point about controlling that high ball - other than to repeat I think it’s a stupid comment.
You might be better off waiting for a game when Wood is not the match winner to criticise him.
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Rooster is either fishing or pretty clueless for as you rightly point out above. In addition I could have sworn he ran into the channel for the goal. Now he might have not been effective at beating his man when he got there but his battling and persistence won the corner for his own goal.
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:12 pm
by ClaretTony
Roosterbooster wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:23 pm
Strangely enough, I'm clearly not the only one who was disappointed with him. I didn't expect him to take it down like Messi, but he wasn't even close to controlling it - he didn't just miss it, he was miles away. And I don't see what is bizarre about saying he nearly missed. Yes he scored. I said that. But if you're struggling to hit the target from a yard out then it doesn't bode well. Had he been a foot further out he could have missed. He wasn't aiming to hit it off the bar was he!?!?
I’m not surprised he was miles away after seeing it again on tv. Just about impossible for him to get to it.
Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Player Ratings
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:45 pm
by Claret Toni
Bit late - just thawed out.
Pope - 5. No shots to stop, but came out for balls reasonably well (one exception when he dropped the ball), acknowledging the Carroll threat. Wasted time without the Ref even realising it with the pretend short goal kicks to Westwood.
Bardsley - 5. Was up for the battle but couldn't prevent Carroll getting the early header in. Good pull back early on, sadly no-one read it.
Tarkowski - 7. Good performance, took 2 early knocks. I believe he was targeted, but ran the knocks off and didn't let them affect his performance.
Mee - 6. Another centre back targeted who stood up to the challenge well.
Pieters - 4. Not a good day at the office. Fortunately Yedlin didn't come on until late. Took a couple of knocks and stayed down, one when he played for the barge in the back, but didn't get the free-kick, the other when he was prone at the wrong end of the pitch.
Hendrick - 5. They say a lot of his good work goes unnoticed. Saturday was one of those days where I didn't notice it.
Westwood - 7. Energy back in midfield. Cracking corner for the assist.
Cork - 7. Suspect he bossed the midfield, certainly had the edge over the highly regarded Longstaff. Should have finished better with his glorious chance.
McNeil - 7. Carried the ball well, usually protects the ball well, but gave it away towards the end and gave me palpitations, briefly. Excellent cross for the Wood chance.. Often multi marked.
Barnes - 6. Partnership with Wood, when in possession, not really effective today. Spent too much time looking for free kicks but did block Carroll splendidly at a free kick late on.
Wood - 7. Worked the channels, although not particularly effectively. Just scored the one, had the centre half block another one with his hand and had a fine effort from McNeil's cross.
Weather - 3. Cold and crap; wet and windy. Lucky to get 3.