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Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:45 pm
by Steve1956
Cost Newcastle 40 million,I'm glad our club is prudent with money,shocking footballer.

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:47 pm
by Vegas Claret
astonishing amount of money for him

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:48 pm
by MDWat
Utter dross

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:48 pm
by Steve1956
Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:47 pm
astonishing amount of money for him
Watched him a few times Vegas,and every game he has offered nothing.

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:49 pm
by Hibsclaret
It’d be cheaper to get Billy Joel to play at half time for 4 seasons....and more entertaining....

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:50 pm
by Tricky Trevor
How much did they spunk on Almiron. They are good at burning money.

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:50 pm
by Steve1956
Maybe they just paid 40 million for him because he was Brazilian and just hoped for the best :lol:

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:53 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
They must have been impressed by the extraordinary goal scoring record over the past few years.

Then signed the wrong player.

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:55 pm
by Andreshotboots
Thought it was joelgarner. He'd probably been a better option to be honest. He caught one volley well in the second half but yes, he's terrible

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:59 pm
by FactualFrank
Andreshotboots wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:55 pm
Thought it was joelgarner.
I thought it was Joe Linton

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:01 pm
by CombatClaret
A few on the board would cheer from the rafters if we spent 40mil on a Brazilian. Then would be the first to criticise when he turned out to be dross.

Spending does not equal success.

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:01 pm
by jedi_master
Arguably was lucky to stay on the pitch for two near identical booking worthy fouls.

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:06 pm
by Devils_Advocate
23 year old and only 4 months Prem League experience Id be inclined to wait and see a little.

Strikers are expensive and 16 months ago we spent £11m on a 26 year old 4th choice striker who is often left out the match day squad in favour of a 3rd defender or midfielder and has offered pretty much zilch since he came

If Joelinton develops and improves and just does half decent in the next 18 months no doubt he'll keep his value and maybe increase it.

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:07 pm
by beddie
jedi_master wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:01 pm
Arguably was lucky to stay on the pitch for two near identical booking worthy fouls.
Agree with that but when you have such an inept ref like Robinson it's hardly surprising.

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:07 pm
by wilks_bfc
jedi_master wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:01 pm
Arguably was lucky to stay on the pitch for two near identical booking worthy fouls.

Not the only one lucky to stay in the pitch either

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:02 pm
by Tricky Trevor
Anybody else think his challenges on Tarks came from a player who had been advised we didn’t have a CH on the bench?

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:19 pm
by Devils_Advocate
They were both nothing challenges and the second one he got ball but it squirted away leaving his foot to come down on Tarks foot.

Painful if youre are the receiving end but a booking for the combination of them both was probably just about warranted but no way worth anything more

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:31 pm
by Juan Tanamera
Nothing challenges?
I think Tarkowski may beg to differ, and to say Joelinton got the ball is laughable.

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:41 pm
by Blackrod
Not impressed really. You can see the extra quality in some PL teams. They didn’t have anymore than us in their side.

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:44 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Juan Tanamera wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:31 pm
Nothing challenges?
I think Tarkowski may beg to differ, and to say Joelinton got the ball is laughable.
Im sure Gomez didnt think much of Mee's challenge but footballs a contact game and sometimes challenges hurt. As for getting the ball I saw the replay and Joelinton's foot struck the ball before landing on Tarks foot

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:45 pm
by Bosscat
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Please tell me its a joke lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

OMG

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:47 pm
by burnleymik
He left his foot in on Tarks twice, it was very cynical. Second time he also went down to try and deflect away from what he had done. Then he walloped Pieters on the touchline just before Newcastle had their best chance of the game. He should have gone today, he got away with one.

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:47 pm
by SGr
£40m for the Brazilian Steve Mounie, and it was all too predictable. I cannot for the life of me understand that outlay on a player with such an unspectacular goalscoring record. Wesley at Villa is the same.

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:32 pm
by Damo
I dont think those were intentional.
His poor ball control made his every second touch a tackle.
They were fouls, and both could have been a booking but I dont think they were deliberate

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:38 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
40 million?

So roughly about what we spent on Vydra, Gibson, Walters and Wells (especially when you factor in wages). Not sure who got the worse deal tbh!

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:53 pm
by RalphCoatesComb
What an attacking duo they had today :lol:

Not one shot on target says it all.

Malcolm McDonald to Joelinton and Andy Carroll. What a comedown!!!

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:05 pm
by ClaretTony
Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:45 pm
Cost Newcastle 40 million,I'm glad our club is prudent with money,shocking footballer.
Didn't Benitez strongly advise Newcastle not to sign him? That's what you get when the manager doesn't buy the players.

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:11 pm
by Woodleyclaret
Joe Linton he sounds like a Geordie plumber
Bruce has previous for spending fortunes on dross and taking teams down
Lets hope he keeps up his fine record this season

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:22 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:11 pm
Joe Linton he sounds like a Geordie plumber
Bruce has previous for spending fortunes on dross and taking teams down
Lets hope he keeps up his fine record this season
Think he's only had 2 relegation's in a 20 year career and is in the top 10 of most Premier League games managed.

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:28 pm
by Bosscat
Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:22 pm
Think he's only had 2 relegation's in a 20 year career and is in the top 10 of most Premier League games managed.
I think he also has the record of managing more different teams in the PL also than any other manager seconded by Hose Moanrhino :D or Fat Sam :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:56 pm
by Elizabeth
I don't know much about football but it strikes me that if a footballer is going to be any good you will know by the age of 23 and to argue differently and try and justify what I read has been spent on this player is plainly arguing for arguments sake.

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:05 pm
by claretspice
Tricky Trevor wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:02 pm
Anybody else think his challenges on Tarks came from a player who had been advised we didn’t have a CH on the bench?
Yes. The one immediately after Tarks one went down injured was absolutely scandalous. A pure cowardly attempt to injure another professional.

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:22 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:06 pm
23 year old and only 4 months Prem League experience Id be inclined to wait and see a little.

Strikers are expensive and 16 months ago we spent £11m on a 26 year old 4th choice striker who is often left out the match day squad in favour of a 3rd defender or midfielder and has offered pretty much zilch since he came

If Joelinton develops and improves and just does half decent in the next 18 months no doubt he'll keep his value and maybe increase it.
No shock to see the board clown defending anything that isn’t Burnley

As you said yourself previously you can’t be arsed watching Burnley anymore just a shame you don’t have the same attitude to this forum

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:29 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Wind your neck in, its only been a few days since you last got upset about me and spat your dummy out.

I've missed about 5-10 matches since we've been back in the Premier League but im happy that supporting Burnley doesn't consume my whole life as Ive seen what it does to sad cases like you

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:38 pm
by Darnhill Claret
I think that Devil’s _Advocate post is a good one and linking it to previous posts that you may disagree with isn’t very sensible. I think there are numerous examples of strikers showing significant improvement after the age of 23. Our own Ash might be an example.

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:31 pm
by Giftonsnoidea
Should have gone for two yellows, I agree shocking player and signing

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:42 pm
by Bosscat
Hibsclaret wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:49 pm
It’d be cheaper to get Billy Joel to play at half time for 4 seasons....and more entertaining....
Wouldnt it be better to get Frankie Valli to play with the 4 Seasons ;)

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:44 pm
by FactualFrank
Bosscat wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:42 pm
Wouldnt it be better to get Frankie Valli to play with the 4 Seasons ;)
Leave me out of this.

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:08 pm
by ClaretLoup
Bosscat wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:42 pm
Wouldnt it be better to get Frankie Valli to play with the 4 Seasons ;)
Wasn't it Vivaldi who first quilled the Four Seasons?

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:12 pm
by Bosscat
ClaretLoup wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:08 pm
Wasn't it Vivaldi who first quilled the Four Seasons?
Mmmmmm Quattro Stagioni pizza yummety yum yum yum

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:19 pm
by Hipper
He's been signed on a six year deal according to Wiki.

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 3:34 pm
by Sproggy
CombatClaret wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:01 pm
A few on the board would cheer from the rafters if we spent 40mil on a Brazilian. Then would be the first to criticise when he turned out to be dross.

Spending does not equal success.
That would depend on whether he was worth 40 million or not. Gabriel Jesus cost Man City 28 million. Liverpool paid 9 million for Coutinho. Would that be OK?

Why do people assume that anyone who suggests that we spend some money wants it spent on somebody sh!t?

Re: Joelinton

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 3:39 pm
by Rowls
Sproggy wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 3:34 pm
Why do people assume that anyone who suggests that we spend some money wants it spent on somebody sh!t?
That's not the assumption. The point is that spending big sums of money doesn't guarantee you've got a decent player.

Of course, the opposite applies too. Lesser fees does not necessarily equate to "better value".

It's ultimately a subjective verdict which is why it causes such ongoing debates and disagreements.