Cant watch much more of that

[Lowbankclaret]

Good win important . But that was a dreadful watch. How much more goofball can we take?

Need to inject some pace and skill in January.

Well, you can stay at home!!!

Perhaps shopping with the missus is your preferred Sat afternoon.

[exilecanada]

I really don’t understand some posters on this board……………what do the ‘naysayers’ want? Do they really expect us to outplay teams with far more resources than us? I was around to see Jimmy Mac, Adamson, Angus, Elder, Lochhead et al and, I for one, never expected to see Burnley back in the PL! We should be proud to support Burnley and cherish the run we’ve enjoyed for the last decade, it won’t last forever. Sure, many games are heart stopping to watch, especially late in the half or late in the game when the score is close, there are times I daren’t watch! For all the faults, it can be bloody exciting stuff! It’s easy to support teams such as Citeh, supporting Burnley takes gonads!
I can guarantee Dyche would love to have access to a blank cheque book to buy all the talent he ever wanted, however I recollect Garlick saying he won’t put BFC in financial jeopardy, or words that effect. So far he’s true to his word! It doesn’t take brain surgeon to realize overspending leads to disaster in footy, not to mention the real world.

End of rant.

[Vegas Claret]

Very hard to watch us for the most part, unnecessarily giving the ball away cheaply on a regular occurrence at the moment.......but we all watch for that one joyous moment of McNeil pinging in a great cross to have VAR rule out a power header because Wood has a bigger nose than the defender.

I'll be back next week to do it all again though, as much as I find the footy on offer mostly frustrating (because we are far better than what we show) it's the hope that keeps me watching.

Don't get me wrong, I'd rather take a crap game and 1-0 win against Newcastle in the Premier League than a crap game 1-0 win against Crewe !

[Rileybobs]

Horrible match in horrible conditions but we took the lead and defended it comfortably. If you think that was 'hoofball' then you're being lazy and not actually paying attention to the game. We didn't hoof the ball much at all, in fact we spent a lot more time fannying around across the back four than usual due to Newcastle playing their entire team in their first 40 yards of the pitch.

It wasn't a good spectacle but it was a much needed 3 points and the onus wasn't on us to entertain the fans after taking the lead. I predicted an ugly 1-0 win today and I'm more than happy to get it.

[Bosscat]

I really don’t understand some posters on this board……………what do the ‘naysayers’ want? Do they really expect us to outplay teams with far more resources than us? I was around to see Jimmy Mac, Adamson, Angus, Elder, Lochhead et al and, I for one, never expected to see Burnley back in the PL! We should be proud to support Burnley and cherish the run we’ve enjoyed for the last decade, it won’t last forever. Sure, many games are heart stopping to watch, especially late in the half or late in the game when the score is close, there are times I daren’t watch! For all the faults, it can be bloody exciting stuff! It’s easy to support teams such as Citeh, supporting Burnley takes gonads!
I can guarantee Dyche would love to have access to a blank cheque book to buy all the talent he ever wanted, however I recollect Garlick saying he won’t put BFC in financial jeopardy, or words that effect. So far he’s true to his word! It doesn’t take brain surgeon to realize overspending leads to disaster in footy, not to mention the real world.

End of rant.

Hear ... bloody hear ...bloody hear ...

[Stayingup]

I’ve never supported those teams but don’t let that stop your abusive outburst.

You’ve got anger management issues darling x

Dont be such a pr!ck.

[mdd2]

It was utter crap football. No idea how much that lot cost but if you cannot play decent football in glorious sunshine nice surface and no wind blowing then it is time to take up a different sport.
Oh hang on wasn't it ******* down, snowing ,sleeting and in a swirling wind?

[Leisure]

Imagine some of the comments on this thread if we'd got beat! ksr and boysie would have been apoplectic!

[vinrogue]

5 more wins should do it now and my season ticket will allow me to watch us try and compete with the best players in the world next season. In the world and with a team and budget that fits our clubs ethos. I will continue to support my club good or bad and reserve the right to be happy or sad after a game.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Can’t watch much more of Peters
Sooner have ward back

Very harsh thought he along with the back four were brilliant today. Along with Cork and Westwood.

Hendrick was missing. We had zero width especially that side. Wood and Barnes weren't great but as ever when they are together caused problems and one bagged.

Wasn't pretty. But 3 points is more important than pretty!

[Bosscat]

Good win important . But that was a dreadful watch. How much more goofball can we take?

Need to inject some pace and skill in January.

I would rather watch BFC than your "Madge" replacement Timbob

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Times today I sat thinking I wish we were playing the free flowing football Newcastle were but back in the Championship.

[cricketfieldclarets]

I need to apologise to Tim btw. He left his phone unlocked. He probably hasn't read this thread yet!

[ewanrob]

We did what we needed to do, no it isn't pretty and I really hope recruitment is high on the agenda come January. By the way, thought Cork and Westy were brilliant today...need someone next to them who does the clever stuff.

[jackie1971]

Not pretty pretty, but it is MY team.......end of

[Wile E Coyote]

Some people can swap there teams at will and watch anyone. As a fan of 50 odd years, after its been passed on through the genes by your Dad and Grandad before, I'm afraid there's no option, you stick with your team and watch what's on offer. I'm a Burnley fan. Well that's me anyway.

nice sentiment, but as we all know that diehard mentality is only valid for two or three thousand fans when the going gets really bad. As was seen when we hit the skids and were grubbing around in the old 4th division.

[ClaretAL]

Very poor recruitment? Ha ha ha. If we’d had poor recruitment we wouldn’t be in this league.

We are in this league because we are masters in second ball retention, following a long ball thus bypassing the centre field of probably £200m plus of any other team. A good tactic. But we are are amongst to oldest age profile in the league, so again yes recruitment is a problem and that seems to be clear to 90% of us clarets fans including Dyche but not you?

[MACCA]

How do you work that out? We had 7 efforts, 4 on target. They had 9 efforts, 0 on target.

I worked it out as I was stood watching the game thinking this isnt a great match, we dont look to be playing much football here.

Shots on target have no correlation to good football

[damo_whitehead]

Get smashed and people moan, we win and people moan. Maybe my expectations on quality of football is low, but I love 3 points in the premier league, no matter how it comes. And I actually thought we played some decent stuff today, Jack Cork in particular with really neat midfield passing

[Dressinggown]

Hark now hear.

Ugly football can be the most beautiful when you are fighting to remain in the best league on this planet.

[TVC15]

We are in this league because we are masters in second ball retention, following a long ball thus bypassing the centre field of probably £200m plus of any other team. A good tactic. But we are are amongst to oldest age profile in the league, so again yes recruitment is a problem and that seems to be clear to 90% of us clarets fans including Dyche but not you?

I think the point is that recruitment is now very difficult because of the ridiculous demands of clubs, players and agents. When someone like Steve Webster costs Brighton £25m then you must realise what Dyche is saying about the market.
Fortunately for us that in-spite of this Dyche has done a brilliant job with his recruitment which is very easy to check over his tenure at the club and compare to any club in the division....if that is a “problem” then all other clubs will have bigger problems.
You might also want to read the recent report on the state of finances of the Championship clubs to get an even better understanding about why we are running the club as we are.

[tim_noone]

I would rather watch BFC than your "Madge" replacement Timbob

I don't believe that for one minute....inc. Steve in that to.

[ClaretAL]

I think the point is that recruitment is now very difficult because of the ridiculous demands of clubs, players and agents. When someone like Steve Webster costs Brighton £25m then you must realise what Dyche is saying about the market.
Fortunately for us that in-spite of this Dyche has done a brilliant job with his recruitment which is very easy to check over his tenure at the club and compare to any club in the division....if that is a “problem” then all other clubs will have bigger problems.
You might also want to read the recent report on the state of finances of the Championship clubs to get an even better understanding about why we are running the club as we are.

If that was correct lets look at more recently, Gibson and Vydra, effectively we are responsible of destroying their what look like potentially massive career due to not being played at record transfer budgets for our club. How can you describe this as successful? our age profile alone says its not?

[Bfc]

Hopefully when the transfer window is open we can make a couple of good quality signings, within our price range, who will improve the team. We've been stretched lately through injuries and we've ground out a deserved win today against another team, who themselves have had injury problems. I'm glad none of our players received yellow cards today, as some are running the risk of bans.
We need everyone whose fit, to be available to get to our goal of firstly getting nearer to the 40 point target.
If we can unload some of the fringe players who haven't come upto the quality the manager expected, that would release some funds and wages, towards the purchase of better loan or permanent players in this transfer window. Any good signings may well improve on the quality of our play and make us more of the force we are now.

[tim_noone]

See you in Bournemouth Tim

You certainly will....I need to spread the word far and wide.

[SGr]

We are gasping for a right midfielder to give the opposition something other than Dwight to think about

[dsr]

I thought the second half was quite entertaining. Not in a silky skills sort of way, but there was excitement. (The first half was rubbish.)

[TVC15]

If that was correct lets look at more recently, Gibson and Vydra, effectively we are responsible of destroying their what look like potentially massive career due to not being played at record transfer budgets for our club. How can you describe this as successful? our age profile alone says its not?

1) because I don’t look at 2 transfers in isolation over a 7 year period
2) because we are still in the Premier league.

How you can say our recruitment is not successful when it’s resulted in the most successful period in our history off the pitch and for the last 50 years on the pitch ?
Just have a look at the crap you are posting.
It wouldn’t matter if we had a team of 62 year olds if we were staying up and posting £30m profit a season.

We will get relegated at some point - other than 5 or 6 teams in the 30 years of the Premier League all the other 50 or so teams have been relegated. My guess there is few of them who will have left the league with no debt and the profit reserves we will have accumulated when we do.

Some of our fans have criticised Dyche’s recruitment from the start of his tenure - 7 years and half a billion of income generated later they will probably still say they “told us so” when we do eventually go down !!

[claretspice]

I enjoyed the game, and we've got to keep things in perspective - we've had a very good first half of the season overall. Today was always going to be a tight affair against notoriously stubborn opponents, particularly in conditions like todays.

But - I do understand people being a bit frustrated with the performance today. We were very narrow, a bit lacking in guile and as a result our attacking play was a bit slow, narrow and clumsy.

The irony is the root cause of this was really the same thing that's the springboard for our success against an awful lot of the teams we play at this level - the front two. Barnes and Wood are a cracking pair, and when the opposing back four isn't compact or physical, they prey on those weaknesses. The problem is when teams are compact and are physical, and especially if they defend deep, the two of them lack clever movement, touch or nimbleness. Today, with Hendrick on one flank and those two up front, the lack of subtlety and cleverness meant it was almost inevitable we'd have to go long and hope the ball broke for us. McNeil might have been a wide threat but Newcastle snuffed him out, and with the full backs offering nothing in attack, our only real moments of quality came when McNeil came inside. On more than one occasion, he showed the skill and awareness to open Newcastle up, but mostly, he was just running into congested areas already occupied by Barnes, Wood and often Hendrick.

We bought Rodriguez to offer a clever, more skilful link-up option than Barnes, and if we're not going to use him in games like this (especially after he was one of our best players at Spurs) there's really no point in having him. Alternatively, we might play McNeil in the 10 position and play Brady as a more creative option. And the lack of width offered by our full backs currently is clearly one of those things we need to try and remedy in January.

But after 3 defeats in a row, and being opened up a bit easily in our last two games, we needed to get back on the horse. We've done that and set ourselves up well for christmas.

[ClaretAL]

1) because I don’t look at 2 transfers in isolation over a 7 year period
2) because we are still in the Premier league.

How you can say our recruitment is not successful when it’s resulted in the most successful period in our history off the pitch and for the last 50 years on the pitch ?
Just have a look at the crap you are posting.
It wouldn’t matter if we had a team of 62 year olds if we were staying up and posting £30m profit a season.

We will get relegated at some point - other than 5 or 6 teams in the 30 years of the Premier League all the other 50 or so teams have been relegated. My guess there is few of them who will have left the league with no debt and the profit reserves we will have accumulated when we do.

Some of our fans have criticised Dyche’s recruitment from the start of his tenure - 7 years and half a billion of income generated later they will probably still say they “told us so” when we do eventually go down !!

"How you can say our recruitment is not successful when it’s resulted in the most successful period in our history off the pitch and for the last 50 years on the pitch ?"

Based on what?? its the first time we have been in the last 50 years at the top table? we have transfer record players warming the bench, how can this ever be successful?.

[dsr]

"How you can say our recruitment is not successful when it’s resulted in the most successful period in our history off the pitch and for the last 50 years on the pitch ?"

Based on what?? its the first time we have been in the last 50 years at the top table? we have transfer record players warming the bench, how can this ever be successful?.

Success in football is based on howe well the team plays, not on how much the subs cost. Ben Mee and Ben Gibson cost £15.5m between them and we are 12th in the Premier League. It would make no difference to the success of our recruitment if Mee had cost £15m and Gibson £500k - we would be in the same position and therefore would have had the same success.

[claretspice]

The reason our very expensive subs (by our standards) can't get a game is precisely because the recruitment that went before was so good.

Once you've assembled such a good team on such a small budget, it becomes very hard to beat it.

[ClaretAL]

Success in football is based on howe well the team plays, not on how much the subs cost. Ben Mee and Ben Gibson cost £15.5m between them and we are 12th in the Premier League. It would make no difference to the success of our recruitment if Mee had cost £15m and Gibson £500k - we would be in the same position and therefore would have had the same success.

Apart from you recruit to improve? Our recruits dont play?

[TVC15]

"How you can say our recruitment is not successful when it’s resulted in the most successful period in our history off the pitch and for the last 50 years on the pitch ?"

Based on what?? its the first time we have been in the last 50 years at the top table? we have transfer record players warming the bench, how can this ever be successful?.

Like you that doesn’t make any sense.

You have a very strange way of defining success. Picking out a couple of signings that have not worked out whilst forgetting the many many more that have and even stranger ignoring the facts that the period under the current manager is the most successful sustained period since the 1960s.
Every club makes mistakes in the transfer market - it’s about minimising those mistakes and not putting the club in financial risk by doing so. Tell me another club who has had fewer mistakes in the market than Burnley and been in the premier league for at least as long as we have.

[Bin Ont Turf]

What a strange set of responses to my first post on this thread

All I said is I don’t want a season ticket anymore because I don’t enjoy the football anymore, not that I’m never going on again and that I’m going to support Rovers and I hate Burnley FC

Some of you need to seriously get a grip. Talk about taking things personally. Really really odd

Yes really odd, Burnley fans on a Burnley forum not liking criticism of their team and taking it personally.

Not really sure who needs to get a grip here.

[Tinribs]

Utterly shite isn’t it.

This season will be my last with a season ticket for a while. At least until we get someone who wants us to play some football.

For some fans it’s all about the winning, fair enough, but I prefer to enjoy the football on show rather than looking at the table afterwards. I’m obviously in the minority’s there but so be it.

Bye hope you stop posting drivel on here too

[Tinribs]

Very harsh thought he along with the back four were brilliant today. Along with Cork and Westwood.

Hendrick was missing. We had zero width especially that side. Wood and Barnes weren't great but as ever when they are together caused problems and one bagged.

Wasn't pretty. But 3 points is more important than pretty!

I’m a pretty positive Burnley fan and I loved the game today because it was a battle and not the tippy tappy ******** we gat forced fed as proper every week on Sky.... But to say Pieters was brilliant !!!!! Wow now that is delusional hahaha

[ClaretAL]

Like you that doesn’t make any sense.

You have a very strange way of defining success. Picking out a couple of signings that have not worked out whilst forgetting the many many more that have and even stranger ignoring the facts that the period under the current manager is the most successful sustained period since the 1960s.
Every club makes mistakes in the transfer market - it’s about minimising those mistakes and not putting the club in financial risk by doing so. Tell me another club who has had fewer mistakes in the market than Burnley and been in the premier league for at least as long as we have.

To be fair I agree with a lot of what you say, bit our current age profile suggest the bubble is about to burst. This is due to lack of recruitment or lack of promotion of youth. Dyche himself points out restlessly that the model fo the club means he can not improve the squad as most managers can.

My own opinion is we have at least another 2 Dwight McNeils sat in the u23s that could make a step up.

[Vegas Claret]

To be fair I agree with a lot of what you say, bit our current age profile suggest the bubble is about to burst. This is due to lack of recruitment or lack of promotion of youth. Dyche himself points out restlessly that the model fo the club means he can not improve the squad as most managers can.

My own opinion is we have at least another 2 Dwight McNeils sat in the u23s that could make a step up.

who are they ?

[TVC15]

My own opinion is we have at least another 2 Dwight McNeils sat in the u23s that could make a step up.

Who ?....and when ?

[MT03ALG]

Great, competitive game to watch. I could watch a game like today's every day of the week for the next few years.

[jojomk1]

I’m a pretty positive Burnley fan and I loved the game today because it was a battle and not the tippy tappy ******** we gat forced fed as proper every week on Sky.... But to say Pieters was brilliant !!!!! Wow now that is delusional hahaha

The same Pieters who is 31 and could not get a regular game for Stoke last season

On a 2 year deal with the option of more

[tim_noone]

The same Pieters who is 31 and could not get a regular game for Stoke last season

On a 2 year deal with the option of more

Stokes loss..

[dsr]

Yes, there are a lot of complaints that our reserve centre half (who hasn't been needed because of lack of injuries) is an expensive player who could probably step in and we would scarcely miss a beat; and there are a lot of complaints that our reserve left back (who has been needed because of injuries) is a cheap option and we miss Taylor when he is injured. That's fine - both valid arguments - but not when both complaints come from the same people!

[BennyD]

We have had an extended stay in the highest lucrative league in the world, on minimal wages and very poor recruitment. Obviously not Barcelona, but we should have the advantage over lets say Championship clubs with the millions of profit..... but we dont, and thats down to purse Dyche is being given, and the reason Dyche keeps bringing it up interviews. You cant blame him and this board will be the downfall of the club if they dont start waking up.

Wake up man, we haven’t got the spending power of half the Championship teams, never mind the Prem teams. We play the way we do because that’s the level of the players we have, and the best way for us to get points. We can’t afford to go out and bring in flair players, we go and get the players SD thinks will help and strengthen the team we have, however old they are. That is a fact of life so embrace it, or go and support someone else.

[Quicknick]

It’s not pretty! Every other team comment about it and I’ve never really taken notice, just thought it was bitter. People talk of Stoke and how the grass wasn’t greener, we play far worse football than them! Look at Sheff Utd, that’s how we should be playing

I predict we will come comfortably above Sheff U.

[jrgbfc]

Depends what you want to watch. If you're happy watching that in order to survive every year fair enough, personally I'd rather gouge my own eyes out than watch that every week.

[Stalbansclaret]

You'd rather gouge out your own eyes than watch Burnley win in the Premier League ?....... truly bizarre.
Have you ever played football in conditions like that btw ? And if so did you bestride the midfield like a mixture of peak-era Xavi and Bergkamp combined ? Or maybe adopt a more pragmatic style , especially in a game where a win was vital.

[TVC15]

Depends what you want to watch. If you're happy watching that in order to survive every year fair enough, personally I'd rather gouge my own eyes out than watch that every week.

That sounds like a WIN / WIN for the rest of us.

[jrgbfc]

You'd rather gouge out your own eyes than watch Burnley win in the Premier League ?....... truly bizarre.
Have you ever played football in conditions like that btw ? And if so did you bestride the midfield like a mixture of peak-era Xavi and Bergkamp combined ? Or maybe adopt a more pragmatic style , especially in a game where a win was vital.

We play that way every week though, let's not pretend it was down to the conditions.