Winging Neville

[Woodleyclaret]

Moaning because Manure goalkeeper is crap in the air
Take note Chris Wood a hattrick beckons v United

[Foulthrow]

Thought he played full back?

[Woodleyclaret]

Now masquerading as a knowledgeable football pundit

[Bosscat]

Now masquerading as a knowledgeable football pundit

He is just "winging it"

[Tricky Trevor]

As Calvin-Lewin was holding De Gea down he was right.
There is no consistency whatsoever between refs. Most would have given FK, others wouldn’t.

[IWOODLOVETT]

VAR backing the ref. again - inconsistent.

[ClaretTony]

If we start disallowing goals for that we might as well switch the lights off and go home. Perfectly good goal.

[IWOODLOVETT]

I’m left with the conclusion that if the referee had seen it as a foul, VAR would have upheld it regardless. But I agree that if that is the case we may as well go home because a high number of our goals have come from similar situations.

[Devils_Advocate]

Obvious foul all day long. Strikers forearm into De Gea's face before either touched the ball and impeding De Gea from punching it.

Not surprised VAR didnt overrule the ref but anyone else who's watched it and thinks it was a fair challenge must have got on the Xmas Sherry a bit early this year

[FactualFrank]

He does try.

[Hendrickxz]

Why does he put on that bloody stupid "mock commentator" voice like a kid in a school playground? I can understand it during exciting passages of play, but he does it all the time. Carragher also guilty.

[dsr]

And if the goalkeeper had gone for the ball like that and leaned on the forward, would it have been a penalty? Fair for all sides.

[Darthlaw]

Andy Carroll leads arm to Mee's face - Free kick, possibly red card.

Calvert Lewin leads arm to De Gea's face - Perfectly good goal.

Regardless of whether De Gea completely fluffed the punch, that shows consistency as clear as mud.

[Down_Rover]

Andy Carroll leads arm to Mee's face - Free kick, possibly red card.

Calvert Lewin leads arm to De Gea's face - Perfectly good goal.

Regardless of whether De Gea completely fluffed the punch, that shows consistency as clear as mud.

Very consistent in my mind. Mee plays for Burnley and De Gea for Manure!

[dsr]

Andy Carroll leads arm to Mee's face - Free kick, possibly red card.

Calvert Lewin leads arm to De Gea's face - Perfectly good goal.

Regardless of whether De Gea completely fluffed the punch, that shows consistency as clear as mud.

Are you suggesting that if you touch someone's head, regardless of how hard it is, it should be treated the same? I would have thought Andy Carroll's blow with all his weight behind it was a much more serious offence than Lewin's arm in de Gea's face.

[martin_p]

Are you suggesting that if you touch someone's head, regardless of how hard it is, it should be treated the same? I would have thought Andy Carroll's blow with all his weight behind it was a much more serious offence than Lewin's arm in de Gea's face.

And it was the point of Carroll’s elbow on a bent arm, not a flat arm like Calvert-Lewin’s. No comparison.

[Darthlaw]

Yes, I'm suggesting if you lead with your arm in someone's face when jumping for a ball (about a foot above your head) it's a foul. It might be even remotely debatable of Calvert Lewin had any chance of winning it, but he didnt.

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You may think that's fair play (until it happens to a BFC player of course) but I don't.

[dsr]

Yes, I'm suggesting if you lead with your arm in someone's face when jumping for a ball (about a foot above your head) it's a foul. It might be even remotely debatable of Calvert Lewin had any chance of winning it, but he didnt.

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You may think that's fair play (until it happens to a BFC player of course) but I don't.

Whether it's a foul or not is open to question. But I certainly don't agree that it's the same offence as Carroll's and should be treated the same way.

[Darthlaw]

You asked should it be 'treated the same' and I'm saying in the context of a foul or not, its a resounding yes. They both led with an arm, therefore the same offence, ergo a foul and end result should be a free kick in both cases.

The differentiator in these examples that Carroll's was dangerous play and therefore meant Carroll arguably warranted a red card, whereas Calvert Lewin's was just a foul.

It sounds like we're both on the same page.

Martin's 'no comparison' line is just laughable though.

[Stan Tastic]

I think goalkeepers are over-protected but that was a foul. Calvert-Lewin's arm prevented DeGea getting his hand to it. I don't see how anyone can watch numerous replays of that and think otherwise.