Unresolved news stories from this Millennium so far...

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:58 pm

I’m not sure why this came up this weekend, but yesterday morning I found myself discussing the unresolved death of Gareth Wyn Williams, the chap who was found zipped up inside a hold-all, in his London flat during the summer of 2010. Many thought it was a joke gone wrong, some claimed he’d possibly done it himself and there were reports of potential Russian involvement, but nothing ever seemed to come of it.

What other stories from the last couple of decades are we still waiting for follow-up on?

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:00 pm

Claudia Lawrence.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:05 pm

Charlie Austin's dodgy knees?
Six years on and he is still playing despite those knees, although
does his nose run faster than his legs?

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:08 pm

The disappearance of Madeleine McCann (2007)

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:08 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:00 pm
Claudia Lawrence.

Indeed.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:18 pm

MH370

Fenwick · Post by **Fenwick** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:19 pm

Malaysia 370

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:39 pm

Just over 20 years but Jill Dando is still a big one.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:39 pm

Weapons of Mass Destruction

Ashingtonclaret46 · Post by **Ashingtonclaret46** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:41 pm

Doctor Kelly and Weapons of Mass Destruction!

cbx750 · Post by **cbx750** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:12 pm

Nearly 40 years ago, Zigmund Adamski.
Google him.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:17 pm

Grenfell

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:26 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:39 pm
Weapons of Mass Destruction

The silencing of Turtle is Very Disturbing. Free speech? My ar$e!!

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:40 am

Brexit, the wait goes on !

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:34 am

Charlene Downes , great documentary about her last year must be kicking about somewhere in tv land

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:24 am

Mullets and comb overs. Both heinous crimes.

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:00 am

Did Elvis die on 16th August 1977, or go into the witness protection programme ?

Was Hugh Gaitskell murdered by the Soviets ?

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:06 am

Where have all the millions gone.
Long time passing.
Where have all the millions gone.
Long time ago.
Where have all the millions gone.
Septic took them, every one.
When will we ever learn.
When will we ever learn.

The untold Fifa millions.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:01 am

Blackburn Rovers end of thread......

HunterST_BFC · Post by **HunterST_BFC** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:05 am

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how this happened

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:55 am

Did Nick Knowles have Dale Winton killed ?

7decades · Post by **7decades** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:56 am

Remco Van de Schaff

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:57 am

Van der Schaff

Beaten to it.

Dane Richards then.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:08 am

From the ‘90s, local, still unsolved.
Poor Lyndsay Rimer.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lindsay_Rimer

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:11 am

Clarets4me wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:00 am
Did Elvis die on 16th August 1977, or go into the witness protection programme ?

Was Hugh Gaitskell murdered by the Soviets ?

No I am afraid the wolves got him-Lupus

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:09 pm

mdd2 wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:11 am
No I am afraid the wolves got him-Lupus

It was actually " Lupus disseminata ", which is virtually unheard of Northern Europe, but Gaitskell had travelled to Russia in December 1962. He was admitted to hospital on 4th January 1963, and died two weeks later ...

get stuck in tracy · Post by **get stuck in tracy** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:35 pm

Susy Lamplugh and the mysterious Mr Kipper

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:55 pm

Clarets4me wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:09 pm
It was actually " Lupus disseminata ", which is virtually unheard of Northern Europe, but Gaitskell had travelled to Russia in December 1962. He was admitted to hospital on 4th January 1963, and died two weeks later ...

Don't think so he had fulminant lupus that clobbered his kidneys and was fatal in those days but he would have been OK in most cases these days
I think the disseminata is usually confined to the skin and mainly the face hence lupus miliarsis disseminatus faciei.
Anyway twas the wolf and kidney failure.
I am old enough to recall Beachcomber in the Sunday Express-he was often writing on the political front and David Frost on TW3 of its follow up highlighted how often Beachcomber was wrong. In the early days of Gaitskell's illness Beachcomber proclaimed in the Express something like "Don't worry Hugh you will soon be back fighting the Tories"
Frost quoted all this and then,implying Beachcomber would get it wrong again,said something like "So sorry Hugh."
How prophetic and sad was that?
George Brown was favourite to be leader (he was deputy at the time and interim leader after Hugh died) but darling Harold won the election of Labour MP's.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:25 pm

Anne Sacoolas, the intelligence officer's wife who killed the teenage lad near RAF Croughton and was allowed to flee the country before the storm broke.
Will the new government pursue the case/investigation against her or let the lad's family - and themselves - be shafted by the Yanks ?
It all seems to have gone rather quiet.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:27 pm

jdrobbo wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:58 pm
I’m not sure why this came up this weekend, but yesterday morning I found myself discussing the unresolved death of Gareth Wyn Williams, the chap who was found zipped up inside a hold-all, in his London flat during the summer of 2010. Many thought it was a joke gone wrong, some claimed he’d possibly done it himself and there were reports of potential Russian involvement, but nothing ever seemed to come of it.

What other stories from the last couple of decades are we still waiting for follow-up on?

The Killing of Jessica Chambers.

It's on Sky Crime for anybody interested, but not one for the faint-hearted.

LordBob · Post by **LordBob** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:29 pm

get stuck in tracy wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:35 pm
Susy Lamplugh and the mysterious Mr Kipper

I thought they got him a guy from Wolverhampton called Cannon.

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:30 pm

MH370? Pilot dunnit don't you know. Planned it out on Flight Simulator and everything!!

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:31 pm

Wasn't he the bloke who'd been fired a week earlier, LordBob ?

LordBob · Post by **LordBob** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:32 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:39 pm
Just over 20 years but Jill Dando is still a big one.

Wasn't there some suggestion she was investigating Saville?

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:32 pm

There's mortar this story than meets the eye..........

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:34 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:39 pm
Just over 20 years but Jill Dando is still a big one.

Unfortunately, that's been more about the police than who did it. The cockups were immense.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:37 pm

So Saville WAS involved then ?

rufus lumley · Post by **rufus lumley** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:20 pm

The death of a English Princess in a Parisian underpass.

BFCmaj · Post by **BFCmaj** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:30 pm

I think some people misunderstood what this millennium means. I take it as being since 2000.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:02 am

evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:25 pm
Anne Sacoolas, the intelligence officer's wife who killed the teenage lad near RAF Croughton and was allowed to flee the country before the storm broke.
Will the new government pursue the case/investigation against her or let the lad's family - and themselves - be shafted by the Yanks ?
It all seems to have gone rather quiet.

Given that Raab has been trying his hardest to shut it down I think they'll be hoping to brush it under the carpet.

RMutt · Post by **RMutt** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:10 am

aggi wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:02 am
Given that Raab has been trying his hardest to shut it down I think they'll be hoping to brush it under the carpet.

Like the report on Russian involvement in UK politics.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:31 pm

Sala's pilot.

Local cricketer · Post by **Local cricketer** » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:38 pm

Who shot JR

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:44 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:25 pm
Anne Sacoolas, the intelligence officer's wife who killed the teenage lad near RAF Croughton and was allowed to flee the country before the storm broke.
Will the new government pursue the case/investigation against her or let the lad's family - and themselves - be shafted by the Yanks ?
It all seems to have gone rather quiet.

She's been charged today. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50870459

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:09 am

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:44 pm
She's been charged today. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50870459

And regardless of her sob stories/lies she will be extradited following due process according to the British Lawyer. It won't be quick though and no doubt drag on...

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:37 am

Not a chance and we should make it clear that any future extraditions to the USA will not even be considered.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:53 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:39 pm
Weapons of Mass Destruction

And those responsible are still at large, living it up and commenting on others performance.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:58 pm

JohnMac wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:09 am
And regardless of her sob stories/lies she will be extradited following due process according to the British Lawyer. It won't be quick though and no doubt drag on...

The decision to charge her came from the CPS. The decision to extradite will come from the foreign office.

I suspect there's a pretty good chance that we won't even apply to extradite her in order not to **** off the US.

The way the US are talking (that a possible prison sentence isn't a reasonable remedy for an "accident") I reckon they're angling to pay some hefty compensation to make the problem go away.