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CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:22 pm


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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:25 pm

Tend to agree that it is a potential deathtrap. Especially as it wss never designed to be split. The home end is bad enough so god knows what the away end is like with one way in and out. I always wait until the end to leave the home end and rarely go down at half time.

That said, this is spurs all singing and dancing sparkly new away end...
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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by Funkydrummer » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:27 pm

Just look at all those poor buggers. :D

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by conyoviejo » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:28 pm

Bring back the old cricket field end.. Best atmosphere ever.. Just ask the oldies on here..
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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by Bosscat » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:28 pm

Surely the concourse at any stadium (certainly away ends) is like that most weeks... one of the reasons we always go straight out and sit in our seats....
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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by tarkys_ears » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:28 pm

Then they should join the modern era and let people "drink" at their seats and alleviate the problem of overcrowding on concourses everywhere
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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by Cardclaret » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:31 pm

Agree just as bad at Spurs.

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by Aclaret » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:32 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:25 pm


That said, this is spurs all singing and dancing sparkly new away end...
Was the photo taken after 35 mins play :o

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:34 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:28 pm
Surely the concourse at any stadium (certainly away ends) is like that most weeks... one of the reasons we always go straight out and sit in our seats....

Not much of a defence if and when an accident happens, though..

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by Bosscat » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:43 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:34 pm
Not much of a defence if and when an accident happens, though..
I blame Brexit

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by bfcjg » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:47 pm

I think the Newcastle fan is a bit of a drama queen, come on Hillsbrough.

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by tim_noone » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:50 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:47 pm
I think the Newcastle fan is a bit of a drama queen, come on Hillsbrough.
I think her and Newcastle have a very fair point.

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by gandhisflipflop » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:51 pm

I said in here at the start of the season that the CFS is a deathtrap at HT. I still stand by that. It only takes a fight to breakout before something serious happens. It's a shockingly bad design.
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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:51 pm

Hillsborough is a huge exaggeration but conditions such as these are not a great advert for the modern game.

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:14 pm

Give them 500 tickets next season, they can spread out then.

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by John Johnson 1605 » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:18 pm

QPR is also pretty bad.

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:21 pm

Didn"t complain last season. Then again they won that game. Sunderland only got a home draw so that should make them feel better.

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by ClaretMov » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:24 pm

What a load of crap....coming up with not enough stewards to show us to our seat.

Pass through the turnstiles walk forward a few feet take a right up some steps sit down It's not rocket science.

No other premiership fan's have complained or was it because they lost to Little Burnley.

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:26 pm

Has anything changed from previous seasons they have been down?

Has any other club made these comments?

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by ashtonlongsider » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:36 pm

My experience is that most concourses are congested towards kick off time. Suppose these Geordies have never been to Villa Park or Goodison. If they’d have won we wouldn’t have heard a peep.
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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by tarkys_ears » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:38 pm

ashtonlongsider wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:36 pm
My experience is that most concourses are congested towards kick off time. Suppose these Geordies have never been to Villa Park or Goodison. If they’d have won we wouldn’t have heard a peep.
Hah, absolutely, Villa park. The concourse is about 5 feet wide!
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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by CoolClaret » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:41 pm

Should have cricket field end as a full home end, give the away fans a part of the lower tier of the Longside/Jimmy Mac
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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:43 pm

No concourses in football are designed to have more than half the capacity of the stand on.
The home section is bad because of the kiosk queues and lazy stewards not prepared to limit the queues so there's space for people to get past.

Remember how bad Preston was for the Friday night Joey Barton game? They stopped Burnley fans going through the turnstiles while the cleared the concourse, getting people to their seats.
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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:52 pm

The fans were really good natured but if Newcastle had scored in that time and people had surged forwards someone could have been hurt
Needn't have worried, even if we were still playing now they'd still be on 0.

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by Juan Tanamera » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:58 pm

Are these the same 'good natured' fans who were smashing one of our local hostelries (allegedly)?

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by ClaretMov » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:01 pm

Juan Tanamera wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:58 pm
Are these the same 'good natured' fans who were smashing one of our local hostelries (allegedly)?

Fake News

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:24 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:01 pm
Fake News
The Turf or the Cricket club?
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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:33 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:28 pm
Then they should join the modern era and let people "drink" at their seats and alleviate the problem of overcrowding on concourses everywhere
Thats why I dont understand newcastle complaining. They did let them drink in their seats. At least I assume they did as several bottles of beer got knocked over and ended up falling into our end... at about 90mph

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:34 pm

Aclaret wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:32 pm
Was the photo taken after 35 mins play :o
No. This was.
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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by turfytopper » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:44 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:28 pm
Then they should join the modern era and let people "drink" at their seats and alleviate the problem of overcrowding on concourses everywhere
When it is so obvious why is nothing done? Makes my blood boil.

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by Dark Cloud » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:45 pm

It really sounds like a non story/moaner tbh. As mentioned already, many of us go to loads of away grounds and almost all are more "modern" than The Turf, but every single one has squashing, pushing, shoving and congestion on the concourse before the game, at half time and after the game, especially at the toilets. If this lady has never experienced it before, then she's not traveled to away games as often as she claims. I'm not saying it's right like, as I find it annoying when you consider some grounds are only a few years old, but it's obviously legal and it's very common. Look at the squish under the JHU at half time when people are trying to get to their waiting Bene and tepids!
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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by IanMcL » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:48 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:34 pm
Not much of a defence if and when an accident happens, though..
There will be a safety certificate in place.

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by Dark Cloud » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:50 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:48 pm
There will be a safety certificate in place.
TBF, the club have made it clear that there is.

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by tim_noone » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:50 pm

I think she has a point.

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by IanMcL » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:50 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:45 pm
Look at the squish under the JHU at half time when people are trying to get to their waiting Bene and tepids!
I hear they ran out at H/T on Saturday!
Surely a hanging offence?

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by superdimitri » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:53 pm

She can't remember her last trip to loftus road clearly
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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:54 pm

I think the reference to Hillsborough is appalling to be honest but those pictures are damning, as is the response from our club.

We've been gathering information from some Newcastle fan organisations today and also asking similarly of other clubs who have been and filled it this season.
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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by Dark Cloud » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:54 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:50 pm
I hear they ran out at H/T on Saturday!
Surely a hanging offence?
I saw people using thermometers to check the temperature of their drinks and preparing snotty e mails to the club and the local rag as a result of the results!!!! ANOTHER hanging offence apparently!!

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:11 pm

One thing that puzzles me is how were 3000 fans queuing for the toilet when they only receive 2400 tickets and one of their fans didn't use his because he was sat with me in the Bob Lord using my mates ST because he couldn't attend?

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by bodge » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:18 pm

We saw this from the BL. There was a massive amount of fans at the top of the steps who just seemed to stay where they were, whether that was because they didn't know where to go is very doubtful though. It was weird as it actually looked like there was more fans than seats as there were no discernible gaps for this group to go to.

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by tim_noone » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:20 pm

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:11 pm
One thing that puzzles me is how were 3000 fans queuing for the toilet when they only receive 2400 tickets and one of their fans didn't use his because he was sat with me in the Bob Lord using my mates ST because he couldn't attend?
I'm not shocked at how many on here think the conditions under there are acceptable....Tottenham's concourse was packed also. But there was a number of Large Glass doors to Exit should their be an incident.whats the Exit strategy under the cfs concourse ? And how many Turnstiles are there on entering?
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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:21 pm

Odd how no other clubs fans have complained and as above they were fine in there when they won last season with the same amount of fans. Wonder if they complain about the away end at Everton?

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by tim_noone » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:26 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:21 pm
Odd how no other clubs fans have complained and as above they were fine in there when they won last season with the same amount of fans. Wonder if they complain about the away end at Everton?
I can only vouch for the upper tier at Everton ...but the steps down to the concourse are wider than turf moor I got served quicker...and even had time to P!ss no bother and we'd sold out.and we lost!

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:37 pm

Lower tier at Everton is worse than the Cricket Field.

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:50 pm

Nicola Wintrip :lol:

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by Somethingfishy » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:54 pm

The CFS is spacious compared to the top tier at Villa. More of a corridor than a concourse. It is certainly in need of something doing but there are far worse out there.

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by Somethingfishy » Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:12 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:54 pm
I think the reference to Hillsborough is appalling to be honest but those pictures are damning, as is the response from our club.

We've been gathering information from some Newcastle fan organisations today and also asking similarly of other clubs who have been and filled it this season.
That was my first thoughts after reading our response. It more or less blames the rowdiness of the Newcastle fans completely. That may have been partly to blame but it sounds to me as though the stewarding seriously failed and we seem to fail to acknowledge that.

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by deanothedino » Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:31 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:51 pm
I said in here at the start of the season that the CFS is a deathtrap at HT. I still stand by that. It only takes a fight to breakout before something serious happens. It's a shockingly bad design.
Surely a fight breaking out is a pretty serious event in itself?

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:56 am

Somethingfishy wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:12 pm
That was my first thoughts after reading our response. It more or less blames the rowdiness of the Newcastle fans completely. That may have been partly to blame but it sounds to me as though the stewarding seriously failed and we seem to fail to acknowledge that.
The stewarding at Burnley and many other grounds is awful.
But paying them minimum wage for two hours isn't going to attract people capable.

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Re: CFS likened to hillsbrough

Post by Quicknick » Tue Dec 17, 2019 8:03 am

CoolClaret wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:41 pm
Should have cricket field end as a full home end, give the away fans a part of the lower tier of the Longside/Jimmy Mac
Burnley fans don't seem to be able to fill half of it.

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