ARTICLE: Hart to replace Baldwin after Huddersfield u-turn

[ClaretTony]

Have to say I'm stunned with this news although probably not quite as much as the Huddersfield chairman but at least we've got our new CEO

See link
https://www.uptheclarets.com/hart-to-re ... eld-u-turn

[Bordeauxclaret]

Seemed like the most likely outcome once the Baldwin announcement was made.

[jrgbfc]

Lol bet Huddersfield are a bit hacked off with that.

[ClaretTony]

Lol bet Huddersfield are a bit hacked off with that.

I'd replace the word bit with seriously

[MACCA]

Lol bet Huddersfield are a bit hacked off with that.

If that what has been said publicly, imagine the rage behind closed doors.

Makes sense from our point of view and Hart's point of view, but at the same time you can fully understand Huddersfields frustration.

Maybe they van get the ex EFL CEO and it's all gone full circle.

[wilks_bfc]

I'm assuming, if as stated, he has signed a commitment to Huddersfield then there will be some sort of "compensation" to pay

[TheFamilyCat]

Lol bet Huddersfield are a bit hacked off with that.

I hope we weren't targeting any of their players.

[ClaretTony]

I'm assuming, if as stated, he has signed a commitment to Huddersfield then there will be some sort of "compensation" to pay

You would think so at least, he's in breach of contract.

[ClaretTony]

I hope we weren't targeting any of their players.

Can't imagine they'd want to do business with us now if we were

[jrgbfc]

In the world of work you have to look after number 1. I'm sure at times most of us have been treated badly by an employer. Being a gentleman is all well and good, but you have to do what's best for you and your family.

[Vegas Claret]

You would think so at least, he's in breach of contract.

Doesn't the breach of contract rule only apply once employment has started ? I don't know, just asking the question

[ClaretTony]

Doesn't the breach of contract rule only apply once employment has started ? I don't know, just asking the question

I don't know to be honest, but the contract was signed when Hart insisted that Huddersfield go public so our community could advertise for his replacement.

[ClaretAL]

There is a probationary period in any new job so he can walk away at any time in that period no questions asked.

[Fretters]

It's a strange one. Huddersfield will be fuming but I don't think he'd owe them anything financially. He's signed an employment contract but he'd be in his rights to resign from the job as soon as he started, so I'm not sure what's different here. He'd be expected to work a notice if he'd actually started the job but usually that's just to keep your employer sweet for a decent reference, something he doesn't need.

[Corky]

Many years ago now I read Up The Organisation by Robert Townsend. In it he mentions recruitment and promotions. He favoured recruiting and promoting from within rather than externally. His view, and it is one that I share, is that if you promote from within even if the person is only about 70% "there" for the role, if they are as capable as you think then he/she will over the next few months grow into the role. This has the benefit of having someone in your organisation who already know the ethos of how you work and has the added benefit of showing other staff members that hard work can get you promoted.

[Danieljwaterhouse]

I'm assuming, if as stated, he has signed a commitment to Huddersfield then there will be some sort of "compensation" to pay

You can give back word on accepting a role both legally and because you’re in control of your own self. There’s always cooling off periods.

[Vegas Claret]

I don't know to be honest, but the contract was signed when Hart insisted that Huddersfield go public so our community could advertise for his replacement.

Breaching an employment contract before the start date
An employment contract is binding once an unconditional offer of employment has been accepted by the employee. Therefore, any breach of a term of the employment contract by the employer or employee after the time of acceptance of a contract by the employee, will be a breach of the employment contract.

There might be a breach of employment before the start date by the employee, for example:

if the employee accepts a job offer but then changes their mind and decides that they do not wish to join the employer after all. Once the contract has been signed there is a contract in place and failing to start as planned and carry out duties under the contract is technically a breach, unless terminated by agreement with the employer or otherwise in accordance with the contract;

Whilst technically, there will be a breach of contract in all of the above cases, unless there has been significant provable loss as a result of the breach by the employee, it is more likely that the employer would concentrate their time, costs and efforts in securing a replacement recruit instead of looking to sue the prospective employee for a breach of contract such as the above.

So I think you are correct in saying he has breached his contract

[FeedTheArf]

Unfortunate that Huddersfield have been messed around but pleased he’s sticking around. Knows the club, knows Dyche and what he’s achieved with the community arm has been absolutely outstanding. He appears to be someone who came in with a vision and more importantly has been able to make that a reality - very impressive character.

[Bosscat]

Looks like 'Uddersfield are a tad peeved

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/s ... s-burnley/

[jdrobbo]

A totally bizarre situation. All I’ll say on this is that it doesn’t paint a pretty picture of things.

[Bordeauxclaret]

In more ways than one.

[FeedTheArf]

A totally bizarre situation. All I’ll say on this is that it doesn’t paint a pretty picture of things.

I’d say it paints a pretty good picture when you think about it. We acted decisively to secure a candidate once Baldwin’s departure was confirmed and put our clubs needs above some vague moral obligation to a competitor (albeit in another league for now). We’ve now got a situation when the new Chief can spend the rest of this season having a full in-depth handover so he’s in a position to hit the ground running when he comes into post proper.

If we’d gazumped another club to sign a player under the same circumstances then we’d be praising the club.

These are multi million pound companies. If we can ensure a seamless transition to a key position then I’ll take it. As other posters have said, this happens in business all the time.

[ClaretTony]

I’d say it paints a pretty good picture when you think about it. We acted decisively to secure a candidate once Baldwin’s departure was confirmed and put our clubs needs above some vague moral obligation to a competitor (albeit in another league for now). We’ve now got a situation when the new Chief can spend the rest of this season having a full in-depth handover so he’s in a position to hit the ground running when he comes into post proper.

If we’d gazumped another club to sign a player under the same circumstances then we’d be praising the club.

These are multi million pound companies. If we can ensure a seamless transition to a key position then I’ll take it. As other posters have said, this happens in business all the time.

I don't think our club have done anything wrong in offering him the job but the simple fact is that he's contracted to Huddersfield from March and you would have expected him to honour that or for the two clubs to discuss the situation.

[ClaretEngineer]

There is typically a 1 month notice period during the probationary period. After this the full notice period can be enforced (though it can be negotiated).

He hasn’t started the role yet, and isn’t due to begin u TIL March thereby submitting notice now satisfies the original 1 month term.

There maybe be recruitment fees that have been spent which cannot be recovered, so I can understand the frustration on this point.

However having changed jobs twice in the past 18 months, you have to look after number one. Better the devil you know and all that (in this case). He’ll soon know whether he has made the right choice.

[Local cricketer]

Wonder if Huddersfield kept the receipt

[Woonderbah]

It's just a shame it wasn't Forest he was off to.. would've made up for the Lansbury last minute change of heart

[jojomk1]

So, within this announcement, Mr Garlick takes up the role of Executive Chairman.
What, if any, is the difference between that title and just Chairman
We then have a position of CEO - Mr Baldwin
We then have a position of Chief Operating Officer - Mr Williams
We then have Technical Director - Mr Rigg
We then have Head of Football and Club secretary - now vacant
We then have Head of Recruitment - Sorry but can't remember the guy's name

Just asking about Mr Garlicks title/role CT !

[ClaretTony]

So, within this announcement, Mr Garlick takes up the role of Executive Chairman.
What, if any, is the difference between that title and just Chairman
We then have a position of CEO - Mr Baldwin
We then have a position of Chief Operating Officer - Mr Williams
We then have Technical Director - Mr Rigg
We then have Head of Football and Club secretary - now vacant
We then have Head of Recruitment - Sorry but can't remember the guy's name

Just asking CT !

The Head of Football and Club Secretary job has gone, been replaced with Matt Williams becoming CEO. I've no idea what the executive means ahead of chairman, he's very hands on already. Maybe he'll now get a salary (but that's just a guess). Dave Baldwin continues in his role of CEO until June while Mike Rigg (Technical Director) and Martin Hodge (Head of Recruitment) are part of the football side of the business.

[deanothedino]

There is a probationary period in any new job so he can walk away at any time in that period no questions asked.

Probationary periods are normally one-way, you'd still have to give notice unless they agreed.

[IWOODLOVETT]

Was the decision reversed by VAR ??

[tarkys_ears]

Send em the other one!

[charlyt]

So is the Community job still being advertised ?