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ARTICLE: Mecca move into town as Clarets suffer shock defeat

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:28 am

The latest news from the 1959/60 season

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Re: ARTICLE: Mecca move into town as Clarets suffer shock defeat

Post by CleggHall » Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:03 pm

Leeds goalie Ted Burgin later moved to Rochdale. His first game was fogged off/abandoned, no-one told Ted and he had difficulty finding his way back to the Spotland dressing room! There were no buses and me and my brother had to walk home to Hollingworth Lake.
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Re: ARTICLE: Mecca move into town as Clarets suffer shock defeat

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:30 pm

CleggHall wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:03 pm
Leeds goalie Ted Burgin later moved to Rochdale. His first game was fogged off/abandoned, no-one told Ted and he had difficulty finding his way back to the Spotland dressing room! There were no buses and me and my brother had to walk home to Hollingworth Lake.
That’s a story and a half. I did once got to Bolton for a Sherpa Van match. We scored and none of us had a clue. It was abandoned at half time.

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Post by Royboyclaret » Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:58 pm

Still that lack of consistency in both results and performances. Decent as Billy White was as deputy, we certainly missed Jimmy Mac when he was unavailable. Note also that Billy Bremner was a scorer against our Reserve side on the same day, perhaps only 17 years old at that time.

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Post by CleggHall » Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:03 pm

Agreed Roy, we had a small squad in 59/60 who we relied on, Mac was irreplaceable, White, Ian Lawson and Ron Fenton were pale imitations.

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Post by ClaretTony » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:20 am

Clearly was irreplaceable - begs the question as to whether we would have won the league had he been out even more often

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:01 am

To be fair none of White,Lawson or Fenton could be seen as replacements for Mac in the sense of what he offered the team. He was unique and always a hard act to follow.
I've mentioned on previous posts the quality that most teams appeared to have in their forward lines despite their league placings. For this game Leeds only had Chris Crowe(ex Villa?) that I've heard of.

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Post by ClaretTony » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:09 am

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:01 am
To be fair none of White,Lawson or Fenton could be seen as replacements for Mac in the sense of what he offered the team. He was unique and always a hard act to follow.
I've mentioned on previous posts the quality that most teams appeared to have in their forward lines despite their league placings. For this game Leeds only had Chris Crowe(ex Villa?) that I've heard of.
I'd heard of three more. Wilbur Cush, I think, was a NI international with Jimmy Mac. There's also George Meek whose name seems to ring a bell. And then there was the Leeds number 5 who I'm sure you have heard of - Jack Charlton.

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:23 pm

It was more No's 7-11. As a young boy I always looked at home international teams and who they played for. Wilbur Cush with Billy Bingham and Mc seemed to always be in the NI team. So did Peter McParland and the two Newcastle full backs, Dick Keith and Alf McMichael. Interestingly, ROI had a very weak line-up with most.of their players coming from the League of Ireland.

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:58 pm

The Lowerhouse thief should get onto Springsteen for royalties on Dancing In The Dark.

“Messages keeps gettin' clearer
Radio's on and I'm movin' 'round my place
I check my look in the mirror
Wanna change my clothes, my hair, my face
Man, I ain't gettin' nowhere
I'm just livin' in a dump like this
There's somethin' happenin' somewhere
Baby, I just know that there is”

I hope some of last weeks gripers read this line.
“Usually in the dark days of winter, when the weather, like the Turf Moor attendance, is poor,”

As it was so it will always be.
As Noddy Holder sings, “It’s Christmas”.

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Post by JohnDearyMe » Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:50 pm

How many different teams occupied the number one spot during the course of the season?

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Post by Royboyclaret » Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:49 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:50 pm
How many different teams occupied the number one spot during the course of the season?
Five.........Blackburn (briefly), Tottenham (for the bulk of the season), Preston (briefly), Wolves (mid-April for two weeks), BURNLEY (very last day 2nd May 1960).

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Post by JohnDearyMe » Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:52 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:49 pm
Five.........Blackburn (briefly), Tottenham (for the bulk of the season), Preston (briefly), Wolves (mid-April for two weeks), BURNLEY (very last day 2nd May 1960).
Thanks. Bet such competitive title races don't come around that often

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:55 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:49 pm
Five.........Blackburn (briefly), Tottenham (for the bulk of the season), Preston (briefly), Wolves (mid-April for two weeks), BURNLEY (very last day 2nd May 1960).
Best time to be top, Matt.
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Post by ClaretTony » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:09 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:50 pm
How many different teams occupied the number one spot during the course of the season?
We’ve had six so far - Burnley, Spurs, Wolves, West Ham, Preston & Blackburn

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Post by Royboyclaret » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:20 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:09 pm
We’ve had six so far - Burnley, Spurs, Wolves, West Ham, Preston & Blackburn
West Ham for a couple of days?.........Don't recall any more to the end of the season.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:22 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:20 pm
West Ham for a couple of days?.........Don't recall any more to the end of the season.
So six so far even though we were only top for a day

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:16 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:20 pm
West Ham for a couple of days?.........Don't recall any more to the end of the season.
I recall that West Ham used.to play their midweek games on Monday nights so is that how they were top for.a.couple.of days?

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Post by Royboyclaret » Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:58 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:16 pm
I recall that West Ham used.to play their midweek games on Monday nights so is that how they were top for.a.couple.of days?
Really intrigued with this now. West Ham did play and win their game on Monday 31st August that week as did Blackburn Rovers who therefore retained their place at the top of the table.

Interested to know, therefore, from CT exactly when West Ham were top of the table?

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Post by ClaretTony » Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:13 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:58 pm
Really intrigued with this now. West Ham did play and win their game on Monday 31st August that week as did Blackburn Rovers who therefore retained their place at the top of the table.

Interested to know, therefore, from CT exactly when West Ham were top of the table?
It’s been in the articles. Went top on 14th November and were top for two weeks before losing 7-0 at Sheffield Wednesday.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:22 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:16 pm
I recall that West Ham used.to play their midweek games on Monday nights so is that how they were top for.a.couple.of days?
See post above. They did play midweek games on a Monday but they were top for two full weeks.

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