Todays footie

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:15 pm

No doubt Pogba will be back v us

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:16 pm

The way to beat this United team is by sitting deep and not giving their pacey attacking players any space in behind, suits us perfectly next week. They destroyed City on the counter attack the other week.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:25 pm

Darthlaw wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:10 pm
Man U really are quite **** at times.

Dismantle Man City one week, then turn in a performance like this against Watford.

Their record against the "big" sides is actually pretty good,they've beaten Leicester,Chelsea and City,and of course they're so far the only team to deny Liverpool 3 points this term,but on the other hand they've lost to Bournemouth and West Ham,and drawn with Villa and Southampton,they really are a curate's egg of a team to predict.

Pogba's on so i guess he'll play on the 28th.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:45 pm

Pearson has got Watford organized very quickly, wouldn't surprise me if they are clear of the bottom 3 by the end of the season

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:48 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:45 pm
Pearson has got Watford organized very quickly, wouldn't surprise me if they are clear of the bottom 3 by the end of the season

Or could just be the new manager effect. Players giving 100% instead of 70%.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:50 pm

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:48 pm
Or could just be the new manager effect. Players giving 100% instead of 70%.

I'm talking about their organisation in terms of tactics, but yes the new manager bounce effect and all that could be helping them. I dislike Pearson with a passion so hope he takes them down tbh

icu81b4 · Post by **icu81b4** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:51 pm

Everton have a new Manager too

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:04 pm

icu81b4 wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:51 pm
Everton have a new Manager too

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50883864

He is ambitious got to give him that

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:44 pm

Cracker from Willian.
0-1 Chelsea.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:46 pm

you see the replay from behind the goal of Deli Ali ducking his head from the shot, I'd be furious if one of our lot did that

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:53 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:46 pm
you see the replay from behind the goal of Deli Ali ducking his head from the shot, I'd be furious if one of our lot did that

I noticed that.

Dyche would have his guts for garters if he was one of ours.

Aclaret · Post by **Aclaret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:07 pm

Spurs finding it a bit more difficult than against us !

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:08 pm

Spurs playing a lot of hoofball !!

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:18 pm

how does Taylor not give a pen for that ?

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:19 pm

Did Taylor give Spurs a free kick for that?

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:21 pm

He gave a free kick which was overturned.

I see his logic, if the keeper got the ball it was a foul, but he didn't so penalty.

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:21 pm

No, a pen and it's converted. 2-0

mill hill claret · Post by **mill hill claret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:22 pm

Was it not Anthony Taylor who booked barnes v Southampton last season and didn't give the most blatant penalty I think I've ever seen ??

Ashingtonclaret46 · Post by **Ashingtonclaret46** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:23 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:19 pm
Did Taylor give Spurs a free kick for that?

THat was his original decision!! Unbelievable! The keeper chickened out because he could have caught the ball and then been clattered. however, he chose to go for it with his foot and once he missed the ball the penalty was inevitable to me ---but not to Taylor!

Aclaret · Post by **Aclaret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:23 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:18 pm
how does Taylor not give a pen for that ?

A refs 1st instinct is always protect the keeper......why.

Ashingtonclaret46 · Post by **Ashingtonclaret46** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:26 pm

Blackburnclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:22 pm
Was it not Anthony Taylor who booked barnes v Southampton last season and didn't give the most blatant penalty I think I've ever seen ??

Yes and then he gave us one at the end of the game for Barnes to equalise!

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:27 pm

was it not Anthony Taylor who gave us a penalty at Swansea when it was Vokes who handled it ?

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:28 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:21 pm
He gave a free kick which was overturned.

I see his logic, if the keeper got the ball it was a foul, but he didn't so penalty.

I can’t see any logic in that original decision.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:28 pm

I don’t like VAR but it got Taylor out of jail with that decision although I’m not sure why it took so long.

Ashingtonclaret46 · Post by **Ashingtonclaret46** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:31 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:27 pm
was it not Anthony Taylor who gave us a penalty at Swansea when it was Vokes who handled it ?

Yes --he is obviously unsure what constitutes the award of a penalty

EarbyClaret · Post by **EarbyClaret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:34 pm

I haven't seen today's incident but 'yes' in answer to previous posts Taylor gave the Vokes penalty at Swansea when he himself handled and denied the Barnes penalty v Southampton at TM last season.

Generally I think he's one of the better refs but maybe I'm wrong - VAR is exposing them to incredible scrutiny, regardless of how they call the decision.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:37 pm

EarbyClaret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:34 pm
I haven't seen today's incident but 'yes' in answer to previous posts Taylor gave the Vokes penalty at Swansea when he himself handled and denied the Barnes penalty v Southampton at TM last season.

Generally I think he's one of the better refs but maybe I'm wrong - VAR is exposing them to incredible scrutiny, regardless of how they call the decision.

He also awarded Swansea’s winner that day when he gave us the pen after Llorente climbed all over Ben Mee.

Let him get all his mistakes out of the way today.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:43 pm

someone needs to give Mason Mount a medical, his balance seems to be an issue given how much time he spends falling over

Aclaret · Post by **Aclaret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:45 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:27 pm
was it not Anthony Taylor who gave us a penalty at Swansea when it was Vokes who handled it ?

Indeed it was but he had a good excuse, he was on his stag do the night before !!

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:46 pm

Aclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:45 pm
Indeed it was but he had a good excuse, he was on his stag do the night before !!

ah that's right, still no excuse though

EarbyClaret · Post by **EarbyClaret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:46 pm

"He also awarded Swansea’s winner that day when he gave us the pen after Llorente climbed all over Ben Mee."

I'd forgotten about that - but yes absolutely, a classic case of 'evening-up' after he realised his mistake earlier in the game.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:46 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:28 pm
I don’t like VAR but it got Taylor out of jail with that decision although I’m not sure why it took so long.

Agreed. That incident is what VAR is for - but it really should have been given within 60 seconds.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:47 pm

it should have been given in 6 seconds never mind 60 ! lol

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:50 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:47 pm
it should have been given in 6 seconds never mind 60 ! lol

True. Always worth them taking a look at the build up to rule out offside though. But decisions like that are so obvious that they really don’t need to draw things out.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:51 pm

This should be a red for Son but won’t be given.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:52 pm

Red given. VAR making the right calls today.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:52 pm

VAR shambles again, Son red for that yet Billing gets nothing, utter nonsense

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:53 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:52 pm
VAR shambles again, Son red for that yet Billing gets nothing, utter nonsense

You don’t think a deliberate kick in the chest is a red card offence?

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:55 pm

Son’s reaction was ridiculous.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:55 pm

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:53 pm
You don’t think a deliberate kick in the chest is a red card offence?

sorry I wasn't clear - I meant the inconsistency, both clear reds yet Billing got nothing

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:55 pm

The Moanrinho effect is finally happening to Tottenham.........they look terrible today!
Couldn't be happier.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:55 pm

This might be the end of the new happy, smiling Jose. Chelsea have completely outplayed them today.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:57 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:55 pm
sorry I wasn't clear - I meant the inconsistency, both clear reds yet Billing got nothing

Absolutely outrageous that Billing wasn’t sent off, but that doesn’t mean that Son shouldn’t be sent off today.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:58 pm

Spurs day going from awful to shambolic. Served em right for thrashing us haha

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:58 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:52 pm
VAR shambles again, Son red for that yet Billing gets nothing, utter nonsense

I wanted VAR, it’s been an unmitigated disaster in many games.

But today 100% correct.

If 95% of VAR decisions went correctly it would improve the game.

Pimlico_Claret · Post by **Pimlico_Claret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:58 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:55 pm
Son’s reaction was ridiculous.

So was the Chelsea players, hardly touched him yet he went down like he'd been shot at point blank range, pathetic. The whole incident sums up everything that's wrong with the Premier league right now

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:01 pm

JM post match interview should be fun

Aclaret · Post by **Aclaret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:03 pm

Pimlico_Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:58 pm
So was the Chelsea players, hardly touched him yet he went down like he'd been shot at point blank range, pathetic. The whole incident sums up everything that's wrong with the Premier league right now

Can't imagine Mee or Tarks going down like that.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:03 pm

Don’t worry Jose. You can concentrate on stewarding at Goodison now

EarbyClaret · Post by **EarbyClaret** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:07 pm

We're going into Christmas above Arsenal, one point behind United and two behind Spurs. We've won more games than Arsenal and United, same as Spurs - we have more clean sheets than all three of them.

Quite amazing how Liverpool (and mostly City) aside the PL has leveled out this year. Really strong endorsement of our philosophy - stick with your manager and stick with what you are good at.