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Will we rotate the squad over the busy festive period

Post by tiger76 » Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:09 pm

I know it's not in Sean's nature to chop and change,but with 3 games in 7 days his hand might be forced.

It's a quick turn around for all 3 games,Everton on Boxing Day is a 3PM KO,followed by Utd at 7.45 on the 28th,and then Villa on NYD is a 12.30 KO.

It doesn't leave much recovery time for the lads,and the last thing we need is anymore injuries.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:11 pm

I would play Jay at Everton.......Maguire and Lindelhoff got bullied by Deeney today, no reason Barnes can't do that job agains them

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Re: Will we rotate the squad over the busy festive period

Post by Funkydrummer » Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:16 pm

He's got no choice as regards Hendrick I suppose for the Everton game, but as regards voluntary rotation,
I can't really see it tbh.

What he may do is introduce substitutes earlier than is the norm to relieve the strain on his 1st choices.

That's my two penneth for what it's worth.

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Re: Will we rotate the squad over the busy festive period

Post by tiger76 » Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:18 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:11 pm
I would play Jay at Everton.......Maguire and Lindelhoff got bullied by Deeney today, no reason Barnes can't do that job agains them
Not a bad shout regarding Jay,he's coming off netting a winner so his confidence should be high,and we can't keep flogging Barnes and Wood,it's time to use our squad.

Jay's goals at Villa and Bournemouth show that with the right service he'll be a threat.

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Re: Will we rotate the squad over the busy festive period

Post by Bosscat » Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:23 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:18 pm
Not a bad shout regarding Jay,he's coming off netting a winner so his confidence should be high,and we can't keep flogging Barnes and Wood,it's time to use our squad.

Jay's goals at Villa and Bournemouth show that with the right service he'll be a threat.
Barnesy is on 4 yellows perhaps him missing Everton wouldn't be a bad thing.... shame Longy or Gibbo isn't available for Tarka (also on 4 yellows)


The 5 yellow suspension changes to 10 yellows come a week on Tuesday.....

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Re: Will we rotate the squad over the busy festive period

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:24 pm

With all the data they have now they will know whether any players need a break

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Post by jrgbfc » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:10 am

2 games in 3 days will be asking a lot if we pick the same XI.
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Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:49 am

CT is spot on about the data but with an FA Cup weekend and the new weekend off to come it’s not as vital as it used to be.
Forwards need to be kept fresher than defenders but JRod has been far more impressive as a sub than starter.
I’d be surprised if “training” has been anything more than situation drills.
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Post by Sheedyclaret » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:01 am

Am sure they will cope he wont change much

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Re: Will we rotate the squad over the busy festive period

Post by MACCA » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:04 am

Can't see it personally unless there's niggles.

Seems odd saying this, but there's no reason we cannot get a couple of decent results in the 2 home games, but United and Villa's squads wont be that strong either if they rotate.
Our strength is everyone knowing their roles.

I'd guess we will go with our usually team where available, introduce substitutes a touch earlier, then give the main core of players used a rest v Peterborough

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Re: Will we rotate the squad over the busy festive period

Post by MT03ALG » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:22 am

Good idea to give Barnes a break v Everton as he is on 4 yellows.
Difficult to rest Tarko but hopefully he will escape a yellow at Goodison

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Post by claretspice » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:34 am

Its the same for everyone and it will depend I expect on the condition of the players going into the Boxing Day game will be a big factor. As Tony says the medical staff earn their corm at this time and the data they have will inform our strategy, but logically I have thought our wide midfielders are the most likely to be rotated because we demand the most of those roles to get up and down.

Given he's clearly managing a but of a groin niggle at the minute, it wouldn't be a surprise if Westy missed everton to be fit for United or vice versa. Likewise if Wood still has a bit if a niggle then youd imagine hed be managed through the programme.

Personally I'd like to see McNeil behind a lone striker at Everton, partly because I think its help us keep the ball better away from home and partly because it's a big ask for McNeil to cope with the intensity of getting up and down the left flank twice in 48 hours. Our wide players have to work very hard.

I'd also agree that keeping barnes back for united makes some sense.

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Post by mdd2 » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:41 am

Bosscat wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:23 pm

The 5 yellow suspension changes to 10 yellows come a week on Tuesday.....
10 yellows after game 19 which is on Thursday-this has been done to death on the Hendrick thread

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Re: Will we rotate the squad over the busy festive period

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:03 am

Bosscat wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:23 pm
Barnesy is on 4 yellows perhaps him missing Everton wouldn't be a bad thing.... shame Longy or Gibbo isn't available for Tarka (also on 4 yellows)


The 5 yellow suspension changes to 10 yellows come a week on Tuesday.....
Why isnt Long available?
He was on the bench Saturday

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Post by Andreshotboots » Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:07 am

We played Saturday, Tuesday, Saturday in the Championship for ages...We'll be reyt... :)

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Re: Will we rotate the squad over the busy festive period

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:08 am

The players haven't really been overused yet, as we have had little injuries and been forced to rotate.
McNeil might need a rest soon, but other than that Cork,Mee and Tarky are the only ones to play all the time.

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Post by No Ney Never » Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:19 am

I'm interested to see how Taylor and Brady combine should McNeill be rested.

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Post by houseboy » Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:20 am

Not so sure about changing things around much, if at all. We have just got back to playing with some kind of form and we don't want anything to risk that changing. Everton is a winnable game for us and after yesterday who knows what is possible with United. Villa should (stress should) be a win. There are 9 valuable realistic pints up for grabs over the period. Obviously that means we have to overcome our fear of the big six that seems to have set in.

By the way United let me down badly yesterday - had 'em in the last man standing at work and after Saturday's results all they had to do was win and I would have been in the last 3, as it happened two of us had them so a bloody Bolton fan copped for £220. Why are United so damn disappointing?

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Re: Will we rotate the squad over the busy festive period

Post by AlargeClaret » Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:53 am

houseboy wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:20 am
Not so sure about changing things around much, if at all. We have just got back to playing with some kind of form and we don't want anything to risk that changing. Everton is a winnable game for us and after yesterday who knows what is possible with United. Villa should (stress should) be a win. There are 9 valuable realistic pints up for grabs over the period. Obviously that means we have to overcome our fear of the big six that seems to have set in.

By the way United let me down badly yesterday - had 'em in the last man standing at work and after Saturday's results all they had to do was win and I would have been in the last 3, as it happened two of us had them so a bloody Bolton fan copped for £220. Why are United so damn disappointing?
“ 9 pints” that’s a bit skinny over the festive period tbf
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Re: Will we rotate the squad over the busy festive period

Post by houseboy » Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:58 am

AlargeClaret wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:53 am
“ 9 pints” that’s a bit skinny over the festive period tbf
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You spotted my deliberate mistake.

Damn typos. :lol:

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Re: Will we rotate the squad over the busy festive period

Post by MT03ALG » Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:37 am

If Long is available I would rest Tarko v Everton

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Post by claretspice » Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:31 am

MT03ALG wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:37 am
If Long is available I would rest Tarko v Everton
Dont particularly understand the logic of this. We would be dropping one of our own players voluntarily for one match because of what is a roughly one in 4 risk that that he gets a booking and therefore misses, um, one match. Not sure the United game warrants that sort of prioritisation!!

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:35 am

and if he got a booking the extra few days might bring Gibson back into the reckoning.

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Post by Longside4evr » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:16 pm

We need a full strength squad out at Goodison we already have to make a change for Hendrick and with a new manager coming in for this and on Boxing Day they will be well up for it and have it down as one to win.
We made that mistake last time i was there dropping both wingers McNeil and Hendrick playing Brady and Gudmonson it put us on the back foot and we never really got into the game until we went 2 nil down
Vydra should have had a stonewall penalty that could have helped to get something out of it
But until we made changes we weren't at the races.
Full squad right through, rest them for the cup game

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Post by IanMcL » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:23 pm

A Dyche rotation would be defence playing forward and midfield and strikers playing back. Same players.

One or 2 changes, along the way, for sure, even if that becomes more time for the subs in a match. That could be the way to keep going.

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Post by JohnDearyMe » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:29 pm

Does anyone think Drinkwater will get any game time or has his Burnley career effectively ended?

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Post by Giftonsnoidea » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:43 pm

I think Ben Mee would have to lose a leg before Gibson plays a game.

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Post by Rileybobs » Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:32 pm

Why would we rest a player in the hope that they don't get booked and miss a match whilst making them miss a match in the process?

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Post by CrosspoolClarets » Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:57 pm

Full strength side in each game please then if we beat Villa to get to 27 (at least) points then a full strength side against Posh too.

It will be time to take the cup seriously. We would only need three more league wins at that point and we would have a winter break coming up this year.

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Re: Will we rotate the squad over the busy festive period

Post by Helmshore Claret » Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:26 am

Longside4evr wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:16 pm
We need a full strength squad out at Goodison we already have to make a change for Hendrick and with a new manager coming in for this and on Boxing Day they will be well up for it and have it down as one to win.
We made that mistake last time i was there dropping both wingers McNeil and Hendrick playing Brady and Gudmonson it put us on the back foot and we never really got into the game until we went 2 nil down
Vydra should have had a stonewall penalty that could have helped to get something out of it
But until we made changes we weren't at the races.
Full squad right through, rest them for the cup game
Thought Brady played well in this match, he played a great ball to Barnes who should never have strayed offside and he also provided a great chance for JBG, who fired well over the bar. As you say, Vydra should have a pen, so even though we were battered early on we could have grabbed a Burnleyesque point.

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Re: Will we rotate the squad over the busy festive period

Post by dougcollins » Tue Dec 24, 2019 7:11 am

The rotation will only happen in the cup game.

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Post by jrgbfc » Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:43 am

2 games in 3 days is asking a lot. We might need to freshen it up a bit for United with their younger legs/pace.

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Post by Longside4evr » Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:07 am

82/83 season we played B@stards on Boxing day then the day after was a full fixture list we was away at Molineux
If these players in this day and age cant play a couple of games with all the medical technology and sports science teams then its time to pack up
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Post by tiger76 » Thu Dec 26, 2019 10:11 am

Klopp doesn't agree with such a tight schedule,but when are the fixtures going to be played if not now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50903118

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Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Dec 26, 2019 10:25 am

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:29 pm
Does anyone think Drinkwater will get any game time or has his Burnley career effectively ended?
Did it ever start really???
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