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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by BabylonClaret » Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:27 pm

Unbelievable. Don't agree with his politics? Fine. Post something that counters it politically. Explain why his policies are wrong. Explain why economically a bottom up run economy isnt desirable.

But simply posting the shite that runs in our far from free press as headlines isnt have g a valid opi u on. It's being a sheep.
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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by thomaspaine » Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:33 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 10:17 am
You must live in an alternate universe!!!
Compared to yours you mean..... Then thankfully yes!

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by Bosscat » Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:39 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:58 am
Corbyn is a **** along with anyone stupid enough to vote for him.


Merry Christmas everybody
Don't sit on the fence tell us what you really think
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by Lowbankclaret » Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:05 pm

thomaspaine wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:33 pm
Compared to yours you mean..... Then thankfully yes!
Yes you believing Corbyn did anything to help the peace process in Ireland.

That’s an alternative universe you live in.

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by AndrewJB » Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:42 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 10:43 am
Jeez. Unbelievable. An example. How many times have good meaning western governments snd leaders tried to reason with Iran. What has been the result? Kid gloves and they increase their terrorist support and proxy war activities. In the case of Corbyn when has he ever supported UK in a stand off or a diplomatic row? Never.

You should yry to understand how the world works.
The EU and US reached an agreement with Iran, which the US reneged on for no other reason than it was Obama’s deal (who on earth allowed Trump to make a decision on such childish grounds?). And it wasn’t kid gloves but the lifting of sanctions in return for the suspension of a military nuclear program. An aggressive stance toward Iran only solidifies the position of anti-Western factions. Whereas a more cooperative stance will boost the position of factions friendlier to our interests, and more inclined to be moderate at home. I suspect both Johnson and Trump have chosen to back Saudi Arabia - a far more totalitarian regime than Iran - and I don’t see how that benefits the interests of Britain or the US (though might benefit the men politically).

When Corbyn proposed a U.K. version of the Magnitsky Act https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnitsky_Act the Tory Party refused to consider it. Right there you have an example of Corbyn taking a stand for the U.K. against a foreign power. Bear in mind Johnson has yet to publish the report into Russian interference, and the Tory Party also squashed a report into Islamic Terror in the U.K. because they felt it made guy embarrass their Saudi allies. Corbyn has stood by our country on both of these occasions too, when the government let the country down.
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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by Firthy » Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:22 pm

Wonder how many homeless he invited to his mansion for Xmas Dinner?

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by AndrewJB » Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:50 pm

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... as-message
Another excellent speech by someone who embodies public spiritedness, and speaks for the people.

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by thomaspaine » Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:57 pm

Firthy wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:22 pm
Wonder how many homeless he invited to his mansion for Xmas Dinner?
Not too many I woud have thought as he lives in a small terraced house..... on the hand don't think Johnson and his cronies understand the concept of homelessness as they all have multiple residences, home and abroad... and so would do sweet fa to help anybody but the most fortunate in society.

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by thomaspaine » Thu Dec 26, 2019 4:00 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:05 pm
Yes you believing Corbyn did anything to help the peace process in Ireland.

That’s an alternative universe you live in.
Corbyn was promoting peace years before it became fashionable. The evidence is there if you care to take your head out of your arse. Second thoughts.. leave it where it is.

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by bobinho » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:22 pm

thomaspaine wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:43 am
You need to keep up. The terrorist sympathiser slur was one used by the Daily Mail /Sun for a few years but has been disproved and disparaged over and over again. Corbyn was one of the first to propose negotiation arguing that you have to meet with these people in order to gain peace and ultimately save lives. Eventually the message got through and there must be countless thousands of people walking the streets today who owe their lives to people like Corbyn. Unfortunately mis informed people like doing the Tories dirty work for them and repeat the lies ad infinitum. Corbyn is an honest and decent man and if calling for peace makes him a terrorist sympathiser then I to belong to that club.
Then shame on you for claiming Corbyn is responsible for the “peace” we are currently enjoying in Northern Ireland. He IS a terrorist sympathiser who would happily sit down and chat with ANYONE other than a conservative prime minister. I mean ANYONE.
Go on, pick ANY terrorist organisation on the planet that Corbyn HASNT sympathised with or greed with. Then ask him to condemn the actions of the IRA in killing innocent brutish civilians on our mainland. Ask him to condemn the absolute RIFE anti semitism within his own party. Mmmmm... how did that go?
He will sit with ANYONE other than someone who is prepared to discuss reasonably the future of the country. He’s an absolute disgrace. A stain on our country, and thankfully, he’s been rumbled.

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by ablueclaret » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:37 pm

Sadly Corbyn has never been a man of peace, he has always taken sides, always for the oppressed never for the oppressor, just as long as the oppressor isn’t a socialist.
Hence the support of his one time friend Galloway for Sadam and Iraq, why he has been against military action against Socialist Gadaffi in Libya and Assad in Syria, why he has worked for Iran TV long time enemy of Israel, why he has been documented as wanting the demise of Israel and sees the hand of the US in all malevolent action, yet somehow can’t imagine Russia would commit any atrocities.
He has at all times been a partial player taking the side of the Republican’s in the Irish conflict, never being a negotiator or impartial go between.
It is his lack of honesty about these positions he has taken that has made him unfit to govern.
For me he is the epitome of a hypocrite.

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by taio » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:41 pm

thomaspaine wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:57 pm
Not too many I woud have thought as he lives in a small terraced house..... on the hand don't think Johnson and his cronies understand the concept of homelessness as they all have multiple residences, home and abroad... and so would do sweet fa to help anybody but the most fortunate in society.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indepe ... html%3famp

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by Lowbankclaret » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:47 pm

thomaspaine wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 4:00 pm
Corbyn was promoting peace years before it became fashionable. The evidence is there if you care to take your head out of your arse. Second thoughts.. leave it where it is.
No he was promoting terrorist action.
Actively supporting increasing IRA bombings.

Unfortunately you see supporting killing innocent people as a peace process.
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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by bobinho » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:26 pm

thomaspaine wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:57 pm
Not too many I woud have thought as he lives in a small terraced house..... on the hand don't think Johnson and his cronies understand the concept of homelessness as they all have multiple residences, home and abroad... and so would do sweet fa to help anybody but the most fortunate in society.
So the “small terraced” house we see Corbyn coming out of every morning when he refuses to condemn yet another atrocity by (insert name of terrorist organisation here) is the house he lives in and is his ONLY house is it? Mmmm. We will see.
Anyway, answer the question, how many poor and unfortunates shared his socialist table on Xmas day?


If he hasn’t spent his vast wealth on property, where has he spent it? If he was doing the socialist thing I’d sharing it with those less fortunate, we’d know about it.

I wish to **** I could afford to be a socialist.

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by bobinho » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:33 pm

Jeremy Corbyn.
Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.
Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna.
Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney.
Hosted IRA linked Mitchell McLaughlin in parliament.
Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson.
Attended Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly.
Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane.
Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists.
Stood in minute’s silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS.
Refused to condemn the IRA in Sky News interview.
Refused to condemn the IRA on Question Time.
Refused to condemn IRA violence in BBC radio interview.
Signed EDM after IRA Poppy massacre massacre blaming Britain for the deaths.
Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber’s co-defendants.
Lobbied government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers.
Attended Irish republican event calling for armed conflict against Britain.
Hired suspected IRA man Ronan Bennett as a parliamentary assistant.
Hired another aide closely linked to several convicted IRA terrorists.
Heavily involved with IRA sympathising newspaper London Labour Briefing.
Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey.
Didn’t support IRA ceasefire.
Said Hamas and Hezbollah are his “friends“.
Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list.
Called Hamas “serious and hard-working“.
Attended wreath-laying at grave of Munich massacre terrorist.
Attended conference with Hamas and PFLP.
Photographed smiling with Hezbollah flag.
Attended rally with Hezbollah and Al-Muhajiroun.
Repeatedly shared platforms with PFLP plane hijacker.
Hired aide who praised Hamas’ “spirit of resistance“.
Accepted £20,000 for state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime.
Opposed banning Britons from travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS.
Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria.
Said ISIS supporters should not be prosecuted.
Compared fighters returning from Syria to Nelson Mandela.
Said the death of Osama Bin Laden was a “tragedy“.
Wouldn’t sanction drone strike to kill ISIS leader.
Voted to allow ISIS fighters to return from Syria.
Opposed shoot to kill.
Attended event organised by terrorist sympathising IHRC.
Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects.
Wrote letter in support of conman accused of fundraising for ISIS.
Spoke of “friendship” with Mo Kozbar, who called for destruction of Israel.
Attended event with Abdullah Djaballah, who called for holy war against UK.
Called drone strikes against terrorists “obscene”.
Boasted about “opposing anti-terror legislation”.
Said laws banning jihadis from returning to Britain are “strange”.
Accepted £5,000 donation from terror supporter Ted Honderich.
Accepted £2,800 trip to Gaza from banned Islamist organisation Interpal.
Called Ibrahim Hewitt, extremist and chair of Interpal, a “very good friend”.
Accepted two more trips from the pro-Hamas group PRC.
Speaker at conference hosted by pro-Hamas group MEMO.
Met Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh several times.
Hosted meeting with Mousa Abu Maria of banned group Islamic Jihad.
Patron of Palestine Solidarity Campaign – marches attended by Hezbollah.
Compared Israel to ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda.
Said we should not make “value judgements” about Britons who fight for ISIS.
Received endorsement from Hamas.
Attended event with Islamic extremist Suliman Gani.
Chaired Stop the War, who praised “internationalism and solidarity” of ISIS.
Praised Raed Salah, who was jailed for inciting violence in Israel.
Signed letter defending jihadist advocacy group Cage.
Met Dyab Jahjah, who praised the killing of British soldiers.
Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.
Compared ISIS to US military in interview on Russia Today.
Opposed proscription of Hizb ut-Tahrir.
Attended conference which called on Iraqis to kill British soldiers.
Attended Al-Quds Day demonstration in support of destruction of Israel.
Supported Hamas and ISIS-linked Viva Palestina group.
Attended protest with Islamic extremist Moazzam Begg.
Made the “case for Iran” at event hosted by Khomeinist group.
Photographed smiling with Azzam Tamimi, who backed suicide bombings.
Photographed with Abdel Atwan, who sympathised with attacks on US troops.
Said Hamas should “have tea with the Queen”.
Attended ‘Meet the Resistance’ event with Hezbollah MP Hussein El Haj.
Attended event with Haifa Zangana, who praised Palestinian “mujahideen”.
Defended the infamous anti-Semitic Hamas supporter Stephen Sizer.
Attended event with pro-Hamas and Hezbollah group Naturei Karta.
Backed Holocaust denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen.
Photographed with Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb, later jailed for terror offences.
Mocked “anti-terror hysteria” while opposing powers for security services.
Named on speakers list for conference with Hamas sympathiser Ismail Patel.
Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John.
Said the 7/7 bombers had been denied “hope and opportunity”.
Said 9/11 was “manipulated” to make it look like bin Laden was responsible.
Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks.
Called Columbian terror group M-19 “comrades”.
Blamed beheading of Alan Henning on Britain.
Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime.
Signed EDM spinning for Slobodan Milosevic.
Blamed Tunisia terror attack on “austerity”.
Voted against banning support for the IRA.
Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles.
Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11.
Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group.
Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism.
Voted against banning al-Qaeda.
Voted against outlawing the glorification of terror.
Voted against control orders.
Voted against increased funding for the security services to combat terrorism.

I’m sure you could argue the toss on one or two of those.... so by all means do so.

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by thomaspaine » Thu Dec 26, 2019 8:56 pm

bobinho wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:33 pm
Jeremy Corbyn.
Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.
Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna.
Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney.
Hosted IRA linked Mitchell McLaughlin in parliament.
Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson.
Attended Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly.
Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane.
Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists.
Stood in minute’s silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS.
Refused to condemn the IRA in Sky News interview.
Refused to condemn the IRA on Question Time.
Refused to condemn IRA violence in BBC radio interview.
Signed EDM after IRA Poppy massacre massacre blaming Britain for the deaths.
Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber’s co-defendants.
Lobbied government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers.
Attended Irish republican event calling for armed conflict against Britain.
Hired suspected IRA man Ronan Bennett as a parliamentary assistant.
Hired another aide closely linked to several convicted IRA terrorists.
Heavily involved with IRA sympathising newspaper London Labour Briefing.
Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey.
Didn’t support IRA ceasefire.
Said Hamas and Hezbollah are his “friends“.
Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list.
Called Hamas “serious and hard-working“.
Attended wreath-laying at grave of Munich massacre terrorist.
Attended conference with Hamas and PFLP.
Photographed smiling with Hezbollah flag.
Attended rally with Hezbollah and Al-Muhajiroun.
Repeatedly shared platforms with PFLP plane hijacker.
Hired aide who praised Hamas’ “spirit of resistance“.
Accepted £20,000 for state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime.
Opposed banning Britons from travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS.
Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria.I
Said ISIS supporters should not be prosecuted.
Compared fighters returning from Syria to Nelson Mandela.
Said the death of Osama Bin Laden was a “tragedy“.
Wouldn’t sanction drone strike to kill ISIS leader.
Voted to allow ISIS fighters to return from Syria.
Opposed shoot to kill.
Attended event organised by terrorist sympathising IHRC.
Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects.
Wrote letter in support of conman accused of fundraising for ISIS.
Spoke of “friendship” with Mo Kozbar, who called for destruction of Israel.
Attended event with Abdullah Djaballah, who called for holy war against UK.
Called drone strikes against terrorists “obscene”.
Boasted about “opposing anti-terror legislation”.
Said laws banning jihadis from returning to Britain are “strange”.
Accepted £5,000 donation from terror supporter Ted Honderich.
Accepted £2,800 trip to Gaza from banned Islamist organisation Interpal.
Called Ibrahim Hewitt, extremist and chair of Interpal, a “very good friend”.
Accepted two more trips from the pro-Hamas group PRC.
Speaker at conference hosted by pro-Hamas group MEMO.
Met Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh several times.
Hosted meeting with Mousa Abu Maria of banned group Islamic Jihad.
Patron of Palestine Solidarity Campaign – marches attended by Hezbollah.
Compared Israel to ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda.
Said we should not make “value judgements” about Britons who fight for ISIS.
Received endorsement from Hamas.
Attended event with Islamic extremist Suliman Gani.
Chaired Stop the War, who praised “internationalism and solidarity” of ISIS.
Praised Raed Salah, who was jailed for inciting violence in Israel.
Signed letter defending jihadist advocacy group Cage.
Met Dyab Jahjah, who praised the killing of British soldiers.
Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.
Compared ISIS to US military in interview on Russia Today.
Opposed proscription of Hizb ut-Tahrir.
Attended conference which called on Iraqis to kill British soldiers.
Attended Al-Quds Day demonstration in support of destruction of Israel.
Supported Hamas and ISIS-linked Viva Palestina group.
Attended protest with Islamic extremist Moazzam Begg.
Made the “case for Iran” at event hosted by Khomeinist group.
Photographed smiling with Azzam Tamimi, who backed suicide bombings.
Photographed with Abdel Atwan, who sympathised with attacks on US troops.
Said Hamas should “have tea with the Queen”.
Attended ‘Meet the Resistance’ event with Hezbollah MP Hussein El Haj.
Attended event with Haifa Zangana, who praised Palestinian “mujahideen”.
Defended the infamous anti-Semitic Hamas supporter Stephen Sizer.
Attended event with pro-Hamas and Hezbollah group Naturei Karta.
Backed Holocaust denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen.
Photographed with Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb, later jailed for terror offences.
Mocked “anti-terror hysteria” while opposing powers for security services.
Named on speakers list for conference with Hamas sympathiser Ismail Patel.
Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John.
Said the 7/7 bombers had been denied “hope and opportunity”.
Said 9/11 was “manipulated” to make it look like bin Laden was responsible.
Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks.
Called Columbian terror group M-19 “comrades”.
Blamed beheading of Alan Henning on Britain.
Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime.
Signed EDM spinning for Slobodan Milosevic.
Blamed Tunisia terror attack on “austerity”.
Voted against banning support for the IRA.
Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles.
Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11.
Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group.
Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism.
Voted against banning al-Qaeda.
Voted against outlawing the glorification of terror.
Voted against control orders.
Voted against increased funding for the security services to combat terrorism.

I’m sure you could argue the toss on one or two of those.... so by all means do so.
Just looking for where it says Corbyn planted a bomb or threw a petrol bomb... It must be there somewhere.. Oh hang on a minute... more fake news instigated by the Tory press. Its poor when they have to get gullible fools to do their dirty work for them..... but some do.

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by thomaspaine » Thu Dec 26, 2019 8:59 pm

ablueclaret wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:37 pm
Sadly Corbyn has never been a man of peace, he has always taken sides, always for the oppressed never for the oppressor, just as long as the oppressor isn’t a socialist.
Hence the support of his one time friend Galloway for Sadam and Iraq, why he has been against military action against Socialist Gadaffi in Libya and Assad in Syria, why he has worked for Iran TV long time enemy of Israel, why he has been documented as wanting the demise of Israel and sees the hand of the US in all malevolent action, yet somehow can’t imagine Russia would commit any atrocities.
He has at all times been a partial player taking the side of the Republican’s in the Irish conflict, never being a negotiator or impartial go between.
It is his lack of honesty about these positions he has taken that has made him unfit to govern.
For me he is the epitome of a hypocrite.
For me you are the epitome of mis information.

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by ablueclaret » Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:04 pm

As a Irish Republican sympathiser myself who lived in London during Livingstone/ McDonnell and Corbyns time I know he was a Republican supporter who wanted a United Ireland and had only disdain for Unionists and their supporters.

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by AndrewJB » Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:15 pm

bobinho wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:33 pm
Jeremy Corbyn.
Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.
Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna.
Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney.
Hosted IRA linked Mitchell McLaughlin in parliament.
Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson.
Attended Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly.
Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane.
Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists.
Stood in minute’s silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS.
Refused to condemn the IRA in Sky News interview.
Refused to condemn the IRA on Question Time.
Refused to condemn IRA violence in BBC radio interview.
Signed EDM after IRA Poppy massacre massacre blaming Britain for the deaths.
Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber’s co-defendants.
Lobbied government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers.
Attended Irish republican event calling for armed conflict against Britain.
Hired suspected IRA man Ronan Bennett as a parliamentary assistant.
Hired another aide closely linked to several convicted IRA terrorists.
Heavily involved with IRA sympathising newspaper London Labour Briefing.
Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey.
Didn’t support IRA ceasefire.
Said Hamas and Hezbollah are his “friends“.
Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list.
Called Hamas “serious and hard-working“.
Attended wreath-laying at grave of Munich massacre terrorist.
Attended conference with Hamas and PFLP.
Photographed smiling with Hezbollah flag.
Attended rally with Hezbollah and Al-Muhajiroun.
Repeatedly shared platforms with PFLP plane hijacker.
Hired aide who praised Hamas’ “spirit of resistance“.
Accepted £20,000 for state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime.
Opposed banning Britons from travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS.
Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria.
Said ISIS supporters should not be prosecuted.
Compared fighters returning from Syria to Nelson Mandela.
Said the death of Osama Bin Laden was a “tragedy“.
Wouldn’t sanction drone strike to kill ISIS leader.
Voted to allow ISIS fighters to return from Syria.
Opposed shoot to kill.
Attended event organised by terrorist sympathising IHRC.
Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects.
Wrote letter in support of conman accused of fundraising for ISIS.
Spoke of “friendship” with Mo Kozbar, who called for destruction of Israel.
Attended event with Abdullah Djaballah, who called for holy war against UK.
Called drone strikes against terrorists “obscene”.
Boasted about “opposing anti-terror legislation”.
Said laws banning jihadis from returning to Britain are “strange”.
Accepted £5,000 donation from terror supporter Ted Honderich.
Accepted £2,800 trip to Gaza from banned Islamist organisation Interpal.
Called Ibrahim Hewitt, extremist and chair of Interpal, a “very good friend”.
Accepted two more trips from the pro-Hamas group PRC.
Speaker at conference hosted by pro-Hamas group MEMO.
Met Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh several times.
Hosted meeting with Mousa Abu Maria of banned group Islamic Jihad.
Patron of Palestine Solidarity Campaign – marches attended by Hezbollah.
Compared Israel to ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda.
Said we should not make “value judgements” about Britons who fight for ISIS.
Received endorsement from Hamas.
Attended event with Islamic extremist Suliman Gani.
Chaired Stop the War, who praised “internationalism and solidarity” of ISIS.
Praised Raed Salah, who was jailed for inciting violence in Israel.
Signed letter defending jihadist advocacy group Cage.
Met Dyab Jahjah, who praised the killing of British soldiers.
Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-o
m
Compared ISIS to US military in interview on Russia Today.
Opposed proscription of Hizb ut-Tahrir.
Attended conference which called on Iraqis to kill British soldiers.
Attended Al-Quds Day demonstration in support of destruction of Israel.
Supported Hamas and ISIS-linked Viva Palestina group.
Attended protest with Islamic extremist Moazzam Begg.
Made the “case for Iran” at event hosted by Khomeinist group.
Photographed smiling with Azzam Tamimi, who backed suicide bombings.
Photographed with Abdel Atwan, who sympathised with attacks on US troops.
Said Hamas should “have tea with the Queen”.
Attended ‘Meet the Resistance’ event with Hezbollah MP Hussein El Haj.
Attended event with Haifa Zangana, who praised Palestinian “mujahideen”.
Defended the infamous anti-Semitic Hamas supporter Stephen Sizer.
Attended event with pro-Hamas and Hezbollah group Naturei Karta.
Backed Holocaust denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen.
Photographed with Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb, later jailed for terror offences.
Mocked “anti-terror hysteria” while opposing powers for security services.
Named on speakers list for conference with Hamas sympathiser Ismail Patel.
Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John.
Said the 7/7 bombers had been denied “hope and opportunity”.
Said 9/11 was “manipulated” to make it look like bin Laden was responsible.
Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks.
Called Columbian terror group M-19 “comrades”.
Blamed beheading of Alan Henning on Britain.
Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime.
Signed EDM spinning for Slobodan Milosevic.
Blamed Tunisia terror attack on “austerity”.
Voted against banning support for the IRA.
Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles.
Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11.
Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group.
Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism.
Voted against banning al-Qaeda.
Voted against outlawing the glorification of terror.
Voted against control orders.
Voted against increased funding for the security services to combat terrorism.

I’m sure you could argue the toss on one or two of those.... so by all means do so.
All you’ve done is copy and paste a load of Tory ******** you’ve found on the it tomorrow web. If this is how your political opinions are arrived at, you’re doing the intellectual equivalent to taking a plastic fork to a gunfight. Your mind is closed to anything you don’t naturally agree with. Today you’re fed this, but tomorrow it’ll be something more serious. “Bin Laden’s death was a tragedy” is a quote taken out of him describing 9/11, and the wars as tragedies, and that it was a tragedy he wasn’t facing justice. A position I think every reasonable person would agree with. The points about him voting against “terror bills” in parliament - what was in those bills (usually a chipping away of our own freedoms)? Often they’re given names like that to get the public onside, but are actually about eroding our own rights.

For balance, when do you reckon we’ll see the Russian report into interference? Why do the Tories support Saudi Arabia so wholeheartedly when they’re behind a lot of jihadist terror in the world? Corbyn has spoken out against violence from all sides of many conflicts (yes - including Ireland). Has Johnson ever called out the Saudis on this? By your reasoning hemust therefore be a terrorist sympathiser himself.
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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by bobinho » Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:32 pm

AndrewJB wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:15 pm
All you’ve done is copy and paste a load of Tory ******** you’ve found on the it tomorrow web. If this is how your political opinions are arrived at, you’re doing the intellectual equivalent to taking a plastic fork to a gunfight. Your mind is closed to anything you don’t naturally agree with. Today you’re fed this, but tomorrow it’ll be something more serious. “Bin Laden’s death was a tragedy” is a quote taken out of him describing 9/11, and the wars as tragedies, and that it was a tragedy he wasn’t facing justice. A position I think every reasonable person would agree with. The points about him voting against “terror bills” in parliament - what was in those bills (usually a chipping away of our own freedoms)? Often they’re given names like that to get the public onside, but are actually about eroding our own rights.

For balance, when do you reckon we’ll see the Russian report into interference? Why do the Tories support Saudi Arabia so wholeheartedly when they’re behind a lot of jihadist terror in the world? Corbyn has spoken out against violence from all sides of many conflicts (yes - including Ireland). Has Johnson ever called out the Saudis on this? By your reasoning hemust therefore be a terrorist sympathiser himself.
For balance? Balance? Are you for real? Of all the things I “copied and pasted” you answered nothing, NOTHING of them and then come with “for balance”? You answered NOTHING of what I posted. Nothing.

You are Michael Foot reincarnated.

Plastic fork to a gunfight? Maybe... but I’d still win. You are completely and utterly unarmed. Like Corbyn.

Like brexit, you lost. Deal with it. It’s democratically right that you do so.

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by AndrewJB » Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:54 pm

bobinho wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:32 pm
For balance? Balance? Are you for real? Of all the things I “copied and pasted” you answered nothing, NOTHING of them and then come with “for balance”? You answered NOTHING of what I posted. Nothing.

You are Michael Foot reincarnated.

Plastic fork to a gunfight? Maybe... but I’d still win. You are completely and utterly unarmed. Like Corbyn.

Like brexit, you lost. Deal with it. It’s democratically right that you do so.
You didn’t read my first paragraph then. The Tory propaganda doesn’t stack up with reason. How are you a pacifist threat to the country while “supporting terrorism”?

As for the Russian report, and support for Saudi despots? Nothing but silence from you, perhaps because your “news sources” haven’t yet told you what to think?
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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by If it be your will » Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:08 am

bobinho wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:33 pm
Jeremy Corbyn.
Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.
Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna.
Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney.
Hosted IRA linked Mitchell McLaughlin in parliament.
Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson.
Attended Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly.
Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane.
Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists.
Stood in minute’s silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS.
Refused to condemn the IRA in Sky News interview.
Refused to condemn the IRA on Question Time.
Refused to condemn IRA violence in BBC radio interview.
Signed EDM after IRA Poppy massacre massacre blaming Britain for the deaths.
Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber’s co-defendants.
Lobbied government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers.
Attended Irish republican event calling for armed conflict against Britain.
Hired suspected IRA man Ronan Bennett as a parliamentary assistant.
Hired another aide closely linked to several convicted IRA terrorists.
Heavily involved with IRA sympathising newspaper London Labour Briefing.
Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey.
Didn’t support IRA ceasefire.
Said Hamas and Hezbollah are his “friends“.
Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list.
Called Hamas “serious and hard-working“.
Attended wreath-laying at grave of Munich massacre terrorist.
Attended conference with Hamas and PFLP.
Photographed smiling with Hezbollah flag.
Attended rally with Hezbollah and Al-Muhajiroun.
Repeatedly shared platforms with PFLP plane hijacker.
Hired aide who praised Hamas’ “spirit of resistance“.
Accepted £20,000 for state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime.
Opposed banning Britons from travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS.
Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria.
Said ISIS supporters should not be prosecuted.
Compared fighters returning from Syria to Nelson Mandela.
Said the death of Osama Bin Laden was a “tragedy“.
Wouldn’t sanction drone strike to kill ISIS leader.
Voted to allow ISIS fighters to return from Syria.
Opposed shoot to kill.
Attended event organised by terrorist sympathising IHRC.
Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects.
Wrote letter in support of conman accused of fundraising for ISIS.
Spoke of “friendship” with Mo Kozbar, who called for destruction of Israel.
Attended event with Abdullah Djaballah, who called for holy war against UK.
Called drone strikes against terrorists “obscene”.
Boasted about “opposing anti-terror legislation”.
Said laws banning jihadis from returning to Britain are “strange”.
Accepted £5,000 donation from terror supporter Ted Honderich.
Accepted £2,800 trip to Gaza from banned Islamist organisation Interpal.
Called Ibrahim Hewitt, extremist and chair of Interpal, a “very good friend”.
Accepted two more trips from the pro-Hamas group PRC.
Speaker at conference hosted by pro-Hamas group MEMO.
Met Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh several times.
Hosted meeting with Mousa Abu Maria of banned group Islamic Jihad.
Patron of Palestine Solidarity Campaign – marches attended by Hezbollah.
Compared Israel to ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda.
Said we should not make “value judgements” about Britons who fight for ISIS.
Received endorsement from Hamas.
Attended event with Islamic extremist Suliman Gani.
Chaired Stop the War, who praised “internationalism and solidarity” of ISIS.
Praised Raed Salah, who was jailed for inciting violence in Israel.
Signed letter defending jihadist advocacy group Cage.
Met Dyab Jahjah, who praised the killing of British soldiers.
Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.
Compared ISIS to US military in interview on Russia Today.
Opposed proscription of Hizb ut-Tahrir.
Attended conference which called on Iraqis to kill British soldiers.
Attended Al-Quds Day demonstration in support of destruction of Israel.
Supported Hamas and ISIS-linked Viva Palestina group.
Attended protest with Islamic extremist Moazzam Begg.
Made the “case for Iran” at event hosted by Khomeinist group.
Photographed smiling with Azzam Tamimi, who backed suicide bombings.
Photographed with Abdel Atwan, who sympathised with attacks on US troops.
Said Hamas should “have tea with the Queen”.
Attended ‘Meet the Resistance’ event with Hezbollah MP Hussein El Haj.
Attended event with Haifa Zangana, who praised Palestinian “mujahideen”.
Defended the infamous anti-Semitic Hamas supporter Stephen Sizer.
Attended event with pro-Hamas and Hezbollah group Naturei Karta.
Backed Holocaust denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen.
Photographed with Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb, later jailed for terror offences.
Mocked “anti-terror hysteria” while opposing powers for security services.
Named on speakers list for conference with Hamas sympathiser Ismail Patel.
Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John.
Said the 7/7 bombers had been denied “hope and opportunity”.
Said 9/11 was “manipulated” to make it look like bin Laden was responsible.
Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks.
Called Columbian terror group M-19 “comrades”.
Blamed beheading of Alan Henning on Britain.
Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime.
Signed EDM spinning for Slobodan Milosevic.
Blamed Tunisia terror attack on “austerity”.
Voted against banning support for the IRA.
Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles.
Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11.
Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group.
Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism.
Voted against banning al-Qaeda.
Voted against outlawing the glorification of terror.
Voted against control orders.
Voted against increased funding for the security services to combat terrorism.

I’m sure you could argue the toss on one or two of those.... so by all means do so.
I can't really imagine any circumstance in which Corbyn makes any kind of political comeback. Surely the obsession with him can safely end now, can't it?
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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by Nonayforever » Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:13 am

Only in AndrewJB's mind will Corbyn make a comeback.

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by aggi » Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:21 am

Firthy wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:22 pm
Wonder how many homeless he invited to his mansion for Xmas Dinner?
It's weird how people are so desperate to make stuff up about Corbyn (unless of course this is what Firthy views as a mansion)

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by ablueclaret » Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:26 am

That is the sad thing about Corbyn he speaks our about violence but supports the side he believes to be oppressed. He pretends to support peace but in fact takes sides and is quite prepared for violence to happen to bring about the socialist revolution.
In Government he has surrounded himself with Marxist allies and Marxism has no truck with pacifism, it is a philosophy of violence and conflict.
One after another his old buddies have been dismissed from the party for antisemitic views, he views Israel as the epitome of colonialism, and his dislike of all things USA as the driver of capitalism is well documented.
Sadly he still believes in the Marxist view of history that history is the deification of the working class, whilst you live under that illusion ones judgments are likely to be unsound,

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by AndrewJB » Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:44 am

Nonayforever wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:13 am
Only in AndrewJB's mind will Corbyn make a comeback.
I didn’t start this thread.

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by ablueclaret » Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:53 am

That sounds like surrender JB. Time for Labour to become a pragmatic party fighting for a better society but without the dragging weights of socialist ideology.

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by evensteadiereddie » Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:58 am

Amazes me that even though Corbyn's as good as gone, you Tories are still rattled by him. All very odd.

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by Top Claret » Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:53 am

Tories aren't rattled by Corbyn, they want him to stay put for the good of the country and the Conservative party.

Only a mad man would vote for Labour run by Corbyn and his motley bunch

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by taio » Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:00 am

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:58 am
Amazes me that even though Corbyn's as good as gone, you Tories are still rattled by him. All very odd.
Don't see many people rattled by him. He and Labour got hammered in the election. People just find it amusing that Corbynism has failed emphatically which is what many people predicted, but some people can't understand why that is. A laughing stock and failed political model. Let's see if they select the right leader and deputy. The fun will continue if Wrong-Daily and Burgon are selected.

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by Pstotto » Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:38 am

I'm writing a letter to the Iranians asking them to nuke the source of the Ganges...

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by ceborame » Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:27 pm

I am not a fan of Corbyn, but the really worrying thing about the comments on here is the massive problem that we have with fake news, people will literally believe anything they read, they will not question what they read because it agrees with the views they have/want.
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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by AndrewJB » Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:34 pm

taio wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:00 am
Don't see many people rattled by him. He and Labour got hammered in the election. People just find it amusing that Corbynism has failed emphatically which is what many people predicted, but some people can't understand why that is. A laughing stock and failed political model. Let's see if they select the right leader and deputy. The fun will continue if Wrong-Daily and Burgon are selected.
Of course they were rattled. The Tories and their press were in full on attack mode over the last four years. Billionaires terrified of having to pay tax. Foreign billionaires with a huge amount of say in how this country is run stamping down on people who want to take back control of our railways and utilities from foreign companies, and to make the economy more fair for everyone. They were terrified of those things, but now they’ve got their compliant poodle in place, don’t expect the economy to improve for the average person.

Not sure what this Corbynism thing is, but surely to have failed it would have to be tried in the first place?

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by Bosscat » Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:35 pm

ceborame wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:27 pm
I am not a fan of Corbyn, but the really worrying thing about the comments on here is the massive problem that we have with fake news, people will literally believe anything they read, they will not question what they read because it agrees with the views they have/want.
I agree, plus that goes all ways m8.... regardless of ones beliefs or views.

There are people who will lap up anti/pro Corbyn or anti/pro BoJo (or Trump) stories, simply because it panders to their own agendas.

One of the reasons I rarely comment on political threads unless its to try and have a joke :D
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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by dermotdermot » Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:42 pm

In the case of Corbyn, the ‘fake news’ isn’t fake news. It’s there for all and sundry to see. He doesn’t actually deny any of these accusations. He simply thinks that they are acceptable things to do. Just because they are reported in the
press doesn’t make the automatically untrue.

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by ablueclaret » Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:49 pm

I’ve been a Labour Party member for the past 4 years but let my membership lapse shortly before the election. The problem is that that the Party has been taken over by people who are ideological rather than pragmatic.
The leadership in my CLP are now calling for the removal of all Blairites so that we can have a small but pure Party which will at some point gain power and be able to implement true Socialism.
In the meantime the poor and homeless can go hang.

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Post by dermotdermot » Fri Dec 27, 2019 2:08 pm

Exactly. It’s just so stupid and selfish. A moderate and electable government will help the poor and homeless whereas an unelectable left wing party has no power to do anything.

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by taio » Fri Dec 27, 2019 2:15 pm

AndrewJB wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:34 pm
Of course they were rattled. The Tories and their press were in full on attack mode over the last four years. Billionaires terrified of having to pay tax. Foreign billionaires with a huge amount of say in how this country is run stamping down on people who want to take back control of our railways and utilities from foreign companies, and to make the economy more fair for everyone. They were terrified of those things, but now they’ve got their compliant poodle in place, don’t expect the economy to improve for the average person.

Not sure what this Corbynism thing is, but surely to have failed it would have to be tried in the first place?
Some people might have been rattled when there was an outside chance he would become PM. Not now. It failed because the electorate convingly dismissed him and his proposals thankfully. People could see enormous weaknesses in them.

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by AndrewJB » Fri Dec 27, 2019 2:44 pm

taio wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 2:15 pm
Some people might have been rattled when there was an outside chance he would become PM. Not now. It failed because the electorate convingly dismissed him and his proposals thankfully. People could see enormous weaknesses in them.
They were rattled enough to double down on criticism of Labour and Corbyn (see the media audit): https://www.lboro.ac.uk/news-events/general-election/

And as the audit shows the criticisms of Johnson and the Tories was curtailed greatly. Not only that but donations to the Tory Party were ramped up hugely (many times more pounds in large donations than all the other parties combined), allowing them to spend big on social media advertising. There must have been a significant fear factor at work for people to pony up such sums. And for the Tories to run such a negative and dishonest campaign, they must have felt that it was do or die.

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Post by Vino blanco » Fri Dec 27, 2019 2:47 pm

It was that "do or die" it got them an 80 seat majority!

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by taio » Fri Dec 27, 2019 2:49 pm

AndrewJB wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 2:44 pm
They were rattled enough to double down on criticism of Labour and Corbyn (see the media audit): https://www.lboro.ac.uk/news-events/general-election/

And as the audit shows the criticisms of Johnson and the Tories was curtailed greatly. Not only that but donations to the Tory Party were ramped up hugely (many times more pounds in large donations than all the other parties combined), allowing them to spend big on social media advertising. There must have been a significant fear factor at work for people to pony up such sums. And for the Tories to run such a negative and dishonest campaign, they must have felt that it was do or die.
The comment about being rattled was in relation to post election.

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by ablueclaret » Fri Dec 27, 2019 3:17 pm

If you think that was Tory negative campaigning you really haven’t lived.
Whilst Labour hanker after a Marxist solution they are lost.
Blair got a lot more right than wrong and he understood the British voter.
A smile and an affable personality go a long way in this country.

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by thomaspaine » Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:19 pm

Regardless of your political allegiance Corbyn is a decent and honorable man. The Tories have tried and failed to dig the dirt on him for decades and failed miserably... hence they resort to mis truths, half truths and lies to try to denigrate the man. The more informed amongst us recognise this but it extremely difficult to persuade others that they are being used in an effort to keep the falsehoods alive. Don't let this be you.... question, study and analyse... and don't be somebody else's obedient parrot.

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Post by ablueclaret » Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:34 pm

I have known the far left since my days at Sussex University in the 60’s and non that I have encountered have been honourable or even pleasant.
Corbyn is no exception, they are exclusive, self righteous, bigoted and blind to the hateful behaviour of their admirers and followers.
Corbyn may appear benign to some but there is a good reason that misogyny antisemitism and hate speech has become common within the Labour Party as he has surrounded himself with people who think in binary ways. You are either with us or the enemy.
Corbyn has gone but sadly Corbynism remains

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Post by ablueclaret » Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:36 pm

The overarching intellectual arrogance of those who have seen the light and wish to rub the common man’s nose in it never fails to amaze.

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Post by ablueclaret » Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:48 pm

Explain why Corbyn gathered Milne Murray Murphy McCluskey and McDonnell around him.
All Marxists believing in the overthrow of capitalism by violent means if necessary.

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by KateR » Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:08 pm

Corbyn, is a has been and a dean man walking, so very little point discussing him, he achieved so little of what he wanted. Am sure BJ would have loved agent Corbyn to have stayed at the helm much longer, for me I can not understand the delay, they are clearly in no hurry to make any meaningful changes.

Corbynista politics or the past few years of the Labour policies are what now needs to be decided and will be interesting, to me at least, to see if there is a night of the long knives that results in a power and political shift. However I have noticed a pattern, when the failures analyze the failure to produce what they set out to do in the first place, most people recognize that continuing to do the same thing usually results in the same outcome but not everyone of course.

He could always do a Putin and become Labour Party Chairman for a while, with his apprentice steering the ship publicly, until he is ready to take the helm again
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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by dermotdermot » Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:45 pm

thomaspaine wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:19 pm
Regardless of your political allegiance Corbyn is a decent and honorable man. The Tories have tried and failed to dig the dirt on him for decades and failed miserably... hence they resort to mis truths, half truths and lies to try to denigrate the man. The more informed amongst us recognise this but it extremely difficult to persuade others that they are being used in an effort to keep the falsehoods alive. Don't let this be you.... question, study and analyse... and don't be somebody else's obedient parrot.
I think that you'll find that you're in an increasingly decreasing minority on this subject. The truth about Corbyn is there for everyone to see. In fact you almost sound just like him. Deluded and in denial. i can only hope that enough people see what a grave error his succession has been to stop it going any further. Quite frankly though, I sometimes feel as if I just no longer care. The Labour Party was stupid enough to allow him to be elected in the first place and so, where do they go from here. I've had four and a half years of having this joker rammed down my throat and I just wish that he'd been dispatched immediately. The last thing that I wanted to see was this excruciatingly pretentious Christmas Message that he thought necessary to broadcast. He simply had no right to do it.
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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by bpgburn » Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:59 pm

thomaspaine wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:19 pm
Regardless of your political allegiance Corbyn is a decent and honorable man. The Tories have tried and failed to dig the dirt on him for decades and failed miserably... hence they resort to mis truths, half truths and lies to try to denigrate the man. The more informed amongst us recognise this but it extremely difficult to persuade others that they are being used in an effort to keep the falsehoods alive. Don't let this be you.... question, study and analyse... and don't be somebody else's obedient parrot.
Is that you JC?

Ian Austin is who I would describe as a decent and Honorable, as well as an honest man..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iaide-nrOJc

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Re: Corbyn's Christmas Message

Post by Bosscat » Fri Dec 27, 2019 7:02 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:45 pm
I think that you'll find that you're in an increasingly decreasing minority on this subject. The truth about Corbyn is there for everyone to see. In fact you almost sound just like him. Deluded and in denial. i can only hope that enough people see what a grave error his succession has been to stop it going any further. Quite frankly though, I sometimes feel as if I just no longer care. The Labour Party was stupid enough to allow him to be elected in the first place and so, where do they go from here. I've had four and a half years of having this joker rammed down my throat and I just wish that he'd have been dispatched immediately. The last thing that I wanted to see was this excruciatingly pretentious Christmas Message that he thought necessary to broadcast. He simply had no right to do it.
I know quite a few staunch Labour supporters who actually voted for Boris in the GE on the 12th as a protest vote at JC and were laughing about it in the Pub that Friday Evening .... have never known any Labour supporter to do that in 42 years of Voting.... even when Thatcher was elected in 79.

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