The Corner On Halftime
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The Corner On Halftime
I was a bit bemused but he gave it and should have let us take it
The players were in the mine set that it was half time
Westwood did seem to trot instead of rush up and i think Taylor blew thinking oh well they dont seam bothered.But on that he should have blew when the ball had gone out thats why the players were furious
Whats your take it
The players were in the mine set that it was half time
Westwood did seem to trot instead of rush up and i think Taylor blew thinking oh well they dont seam bothered.But on that he should have blew when the ball had gone out thats why the players were furious
Whats your take it
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Re: The Corner On Halftime
Taking ages over taking it, and embarrassingly doing so for most throw ins and goal kicks, I don't blame the ref for blowing. Sadly we're getting a bit of a reputation for it too
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Yes unfortunately can't blame the ref. There was no urgency and it isn't great to see.
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Time wasting seems to be our main tactic away from home these days.
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Absolutely stupid from us. No time for Everton to break yet a chance for us to do what we’ve been successful at recently. The ref got cheesed off waiting for our ridiculous antics and rightly blew his whistle. He isn’t obliged to wait for the corner to be taken. Summed up our lack of intent in the first half.
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We were playing for a nil nil...if we had scored it would have ruined the game plan...so we didnt bother and Westwood was dying for a brew
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Absolutely. It was actually embarrassing by us. There was no time left for a counter from Everton however a great chance for us to take advantage of one of our best tactics. I think this annoyed me more than the long sub.
The only thing I could grumble about is that refs dont do this consistently enough. I can't imagine this happening if United had the same opportunity at Old Trafford for example.
On the plus side, Westwood did get his brew.
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A shame about not being allowed to take the corner, as a 'Westwood Corner' has become,for us, a real goal threat. I think,had he sprinted over perhaps the ref might have allowed it to be taken. An opportunity missed?
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Totally agree with cricketfield very strange from us utc
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Ridiculous by us.
Our best chance of scoring and going in with an undeserved lead and we waste time - beyond stupidity.
Ref called it right.
Still think we often lack a captain on the pitch to get players going when things are not going to plan or dish out the odd rollicking when they lose concentration or take risks in the wrong part of the field etc
Our best chance of scoring and going in with an undeserved lead and we waste time - beyond stupidity.
Ref called it right.
Still think we often lack a captain on the pitch to get players going when things are not going to plan or dish out the odd rollicking when they lose concentration or take risks in the wrong part of the field etc
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Was utterly disgusting from all concerned. Embarrassing, tinpot etc etc
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I think it was a brilliant tactic. Run the clock down so all us who like to go for our refreshments early dont miss any action
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Watching it, I thought "why are they farting about, sling it over!"
Daft not to rush it, was obvious he was gonna blow in a few seconds.
And yes, maybe a goal scoring opportunity missed.
Daft not to rush it, was obvious he was gonna blow in a few seconds.
And yes, maybe a goal scoring opportunity missed.
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Ridiculous that we didn't pull our fingers out and get the corner taken, our only chance of scoring was from a set piece.
Although like others have said, we are getting ourselves a reputation for wasting time and can't expect favours from the officials
Although like others have said, we are getting ourselves a reputation for wasting time and can't expect favours from the officials
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Stick to cricket local that’s a silly reply we are trying to be serious
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It wouldn't have happened at Old Trafford or Anfield, had it been a corner to the home team.
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Ref was spot on. He added a minute and he blew at 1m 6sec. Awful from us.
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Who was the English/British ref who blew up for halftime as the ball came into the box from a corner and the attacking team (Brazil?) actually scored from a header? It was quite a while ago in the World Cup, I think.
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Was it Clive Thomas?Vino blanco wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 3:45 pmWho was the English/British ref who blew up for halftime as the ball came into the box from a corner and the attacking team (Brazil?) actually scored from a header? It was quite a while ago in the World Cup, I think.
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May well have been Clive Thomas: he was Welsh wasn't he? That's why I said British as well as English.
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I think the ref was right, hopefully we as a team have learned something from this but am not holding my breath on that one.
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Yep, Clive Thomas , you're right.Vino blanco wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 3:55 pmMay well have been Clive Thomas: he was Welsh wasn't he? That's why I said British as well as English.
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Yep definitely Thomas
One of the worst refereeing decisions ever - he was lucky he was not murdered by Brazilian fans !
Showed zero common sense...and more about his own ego.
One of the worst refereeing decisions ever - he was lucky he was not murdered by Brazilian fans !
Showed zero common sense...and more about his own ego.
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He survived in spite of that. Remember --it's only a game and not a matter of life and death.
When time is up, it's up and if we had taken the corner yesterday and scored there wold have been uproar from the Everton management and fans because it would have been over what had been specified as the minimum added time. Officials can't win ---no matter what they do!
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It's a 'minimum' of added time though.
I thought it was one of the unwritten rules that you don't blow up during an attacking phase of play.
I thought it was one of the unwritten rules that you don't blow up during an attacking phase of play.
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In some countries it is a matter of life and death - and the South American’s have proven that !Ashingtonclaret46 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:20 pmHe survived in spite of that. Remember --it's only a game and not a matter of life and death.
When time is up, it's up and if we had taken the corner yesterday and scored there wold have been uproar from the Everton management and fans because it would have been over what had been specified as the minimum added time. Officials can't win ---no matter what they do!
So why do you think no referee (as far as I am aware) has repeated what Thomas did in blowing the final whistle when the corner had been taken and the ball was in the air ?
Because in 50 years of football and tens of thousands of games the time must have been up a number of times at the same point.
The common sense thing to do would be blow up just before the corner or just after a goal or just after the ball has been cleared etc - it has to be one or the other.
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Re: The Corner On Halftime
it was embarrassing as was our tactic of time wasting from 00:01 on the clock
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This was the ref who thought Spurs should have had a free kick when Gazzaniga tried to kick Alonso's head off on Sunday, so I wasn't surprised there were a few decisions that seemed to come out of a random generator. Richarlison getting treatment but not having to go off was another rule he doesn't seem to be aware of.
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I thought that too, and whilst our players were taking time, it’s no different to planning a free kick for example. We use corners to our advantage, and the ref should’ve allowed it to be taken and an attempt at goal, then blow up for half time after the first phase of play - I.e. after the attempt at goal or a clearance.duncandisorderly wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:22 pmIt's a 'minimum' of added time though.
I thought it was one of the unwritten rules that you don't blow up during an attacking phase of play.
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We had plenty of time to take the corner and should've showed a bit of urgency.Zlatan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 7:00 pmI thought that too, and whilst our players were taking time, it’s no different to planning a free kick for example. We use corners to our advantage, and the ref should’ve allowed it to be taken and an attempt at goal, then blow up for half time after the first phase of play - I.e. after the attempt at goal or a clearance.
On an equal footing of annoyance was Brady's pathetic attempt at a cross just before he was subbed.
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We did it at Middlesbrough a few years ago. Howe was the manager (livid)
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Couldn't agree more. We have no Barton, Shackell or even Duff figure.TVC15 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 3:11 pmRidiculous by us.
Our best chance of scoring and going in with an undeserved lead and we waste time - beyond stupidity.
Ref called it right.
Still think we often lack a captain on the pitch to get players going when things are not going to plan or dish out the odd rollicking when they lose concentration or take risks in the wrong part of the field etc
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Not from a corner, however it happened at Accrington Stanley in 2016, from memory, and I have a feeling that the referee was Trevor Kettle. Accrington missed out on promotion from League Two that season on goal difference because they had the same number of points as Wycombe who were promoted but had the disallowed goal been allowed they would have won that game and had two extra points and won automatic promotion.TVC15 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:26 pmIn some countries it is a matter of life and death - and the South American’s have proven that !
So why do you think no referee (as far as I am aware) has repeated what Thomas did in blowing the final whistle when the corner had been taken and the ball was in the air ?
Because in 50 years of football and tens of thousands of games the time must have been up a number of times at the same point.
The common sense thing to do would be blow up just before the corner or just after a goal or just after the ball has been cleared etc - it has to be one or the other.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX8NJJajoG8
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It was Kettle. Now there is a referee who should have been banished from the game years ago.Ashingtonclaret46 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:43 pmNot from a corner, however it happened at Accrington Stanley in 2016, from memory, and I have a feeling that the referee was Trevor Kettle. Accrington missed out on promotion from League Two that season on goal difference because they had the same number of points as Wycombe who were promoted but had the disallowed goal been allowed they would have won that game and had two extra points and won automatic promotion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX8NJJajoG8
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Having watched it again, there are no antics really from us at all and he blows for half time no more than 26 seconds after the ball has gone out.Rileybobs wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:33 amAbsolutely stupid from us. No time for Everton to break yet a chance for us to do what we’ve been successful at recently. The ref got cheesed off waiting for our ridiculous antics and rightly blew his whistle. He isn’t obliged to wait for the corner to be taken. Summed up our lack of intent in the first half.
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McNeil should have taken the corner. Not wait for Westwood. We had a minute given and were already well into that minute.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:01 pmHaving watched it again, there are no antics really from us at all and he blows for half time no more than 26 seconds after the ball has gone out.
McNeil if I remember rightly strolled over to the corner. Took a couple of kick ups. Put it down then walked off.
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He is still doing the middle though. Strangely enough, I was playing games in the RAF when Trevor Kettle started refereeing but can't remember any involvement.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:58 pmIt was Kettle. Now there is a referee who should have been banished from the game years ago.
I see that there has just been someone trying to get a petition organised to stop him refereeing!
It's only a game!
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McNeil did go over first but then Westwood went to take it but I don't think we were unduly holding up taking it although I have no problem with the ref blowing bang on time with the ball dead. That's how it should be for me.cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:09 pmMcNeil should have taken the corner. Not wait for Westwood. We had a minute given and were already well into that minute.
McNeil if I remember rightly strolled over to the corner. Took a couple of kick ups. Put it down then walked off.
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Spurs had a corner on half time. 2 minutes added, clock shows 47m 06 s. Ref allows Spurs player to go over and take the corner and blows for half time once the ball is cleared. Inconsistent and favours a bigger club.
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I suspect the ref was as bored as we were
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McNeil should have sprinted over, being closest, and took it. He knew as well as we did there wasn’t much time left. Seems like We aren’t allowed to sprint to take set pieces when we aren’t losing.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:11 pmMcNeil did go over first but then Westwood went to take it but I don't think we were unduly holding up taking it although I have no problem with the ref blowing bang on time with the ball dead. That's how it should be for me.
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The Ref proper trolled us. We deserved it, too.
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Spot onGranny WeatherWax wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:14 amMcNeil should have sprinted over, being closest, and took it. He knew as well as we did there wasn’t much time left. Seems like We aren’t allowed to sprint to take set pieces when we aren’t losing.
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Embarrassing antics from us. This time wasting is all part the gameplan to bore everybody into submission.
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We've had later corners when we've been drawing before and decided to try and hold onto the ball in the corner ( for about 2 seconds).
S'dyche way, innit
S'dyche way, innit
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Even though we deserved what we got which is nowt
The laws of the game states in added time when team are in an attacking position its down to the ref's discretion to decide when appropriate to end an event.
So to say if it had been a free kick when the whistle went with the ref giving the decision to carry on
Albeit in this ( gray area) the ref would have had to space the wall spray the line give the goalkeeper time to aline his wall taking far more time than what it took Westwood to yes jog over that's what made his mine up to blow, right or wrong he gave the corner and Westwood pi55 him off
The laws of the game states in added time when team are in an attacking position its down to the ref's discretion to decide when appropriate to end an event.
So to say if it had been a free kick when the whistle went with the ref giving the decision to carry on
Albeit in this ( gray area) the ref would have had to space the wall spray the line give the goalkeeper time to aline his wall taking far more time than what it took Westwood to yes jog over that's what made his mine up to blow, right or wrong he gave the corner and Westwood pi55 him off
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Imagine the uproar if we took it, it remained in attack but a bit of a scramble and we evebtually scored before it left the box. It wouldve been classed as 47 minute goal when only 1 was given and little had happened to justify any more time.Longside4evr wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 11:51 amEven though we deserved what we got which is nowt
The laws of the game states in added time when team are in an attacking position its down to the ref's discretion to decide when appropriate to end an event.
So to say if it had been a free kick when the whistle went with the ref giving the decision to carry on
Albeit in this ( gray area) the ref would have had to space the wall spray the line give the goalkeeper time to aline his wall taking far more time than what it took Westwood to yes jog over that's what made his mine up to blow, right or wrong he gave the corner and Westwood pi55 him off
The ref made the right call.
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You talk utter ******* the ref had already given the corner ALREADY what time a goal was scored in the run of play is irrelevant.cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 11:54 amImagine the uproar if we took it, it remained in attack but a bit of a scramble and we evebtually scored before it left the box. It wouldve been classed as 47 minute goal when only 1 was given and little had happened to justify any more time.
The ref made the right call.
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That's nonsense - he blew because it was bang on time. I'm told he's done that a few times this season previously. Nothing to do with how long it was taking us and I'm sorry but 26 seconds is not a long time.Longside4evr wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 11:51 amEven though we deserved what we got which is nowt
The laws of the game states in added time when team are in an attacking position its down to the ref's discretion to decide when appropriate to end an event.
So to say if it had been a free kick when the whistle went with the ref giving the decision to carry on
Albeit in this ( gray area) the ref would have had to space the wall spray the line give the goalkeeper time to aline his wall taking far more time than what it took Westwood to yes jog over that's what made his mine up to blow, right or wrong he gave the corner and Westwood pi55 him off
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