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Brighton

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:21 pm

I'd say they were on a par with us last season,come this season they add a couple of players in Maupay & Mooy and now they look miles in front of us,they play attacking attractive football,why are we unable to do this ?

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Re: Brighton

Post by Longsidebogs » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:24 pm

Erm...check the league table before posting eh?

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Re: Brighton

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:26 pm

Longsidebogs wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:24 pm
Erm...check the league table before posting eh?
Attractive football,Ill check it when the season ends...if that's ok with you?

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Re: Brighton

Post by Vino blanco » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:28 pm

Because we can't do simple things like passing to each other, passing into space for players to run on to. We prefer to pass sideways for a while and then, when we run out of that option, we hoof the ball forward in the general direction of the strikers. We need two midfielders who can pass the ball forwards sometimes and more movement off the ball in general.
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Re: Brighton

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:29 pm

I know they are only playing Bournemouth today but they look a really good side.

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Re: Brighton

Post by MACCA » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:34 pm

League table isnt much if anything to do with style or entertainment.

I'd rather finish 15th see winning away with some style on show, the odd home giant killing and a decent cup run whilst enjoying the flair and attacking intent on show, then finish 12th with numerous bore draws, clinging on to 1-0 wins, setting up for a 0-0 against a massively out of for everton and disregarding any possible cup rin, usually culminating in being dumped out against lower league opposition...

But hey, that just might be me.

If safety is the only objective, then 17th-10th makes no difference, let's put on a decent show.
Give me a 3-2 win and a 3-2 defeat any day over a 1-0 win and 1-0 defeat. Least you'll give highs lows and a run for your money than a psin staking 90 minutes with the only excitement was the final whistle.
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Re: Brighton

Post by Row Z » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:45 pm

Brighton fans were calling out for the change in style that Potter has brought them - to be entertained.

They must be loving seeing their side taking on games, and they aren't a top 6 team so aren't going to sign world beaters but have recruited players to suit their manager's philosophy, with inevitably mixed results but their competitiveness against some of the big sides away shows it can work.
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Re: Brighton

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:47 pm

Another ludicrous VAR ruling on offside.

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Re: Brighton

Post by elwaclaret » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:48 pm

Over forty years of following Burnley Seasons where our form didn’t dip around Christmas are the exception. For years it was followed by a grim race to avoid relegation from one league or another. In recent years we’ve ended the season on the up, hence the added frustration that the dip continues. Our football improves as the pressure for points eases, that itself represents progress.

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Re: Brighton

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:49 pm

Ridiculous VAR decision there to rule that out

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Re: Brighton

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:49 pm

VAR has crucified football.

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Re: Brighton

Post by conyoviejo » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:49 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:47 pm
Another ludicrous VAR ruling on offside.
It's beyond a joke isn't it.. Must have been half a thou in front of him..

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Re: Brighton

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:50 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:29 pm
I know they are only playing Bournemouth today but they look a really good side.
Playing some good stuff
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Re: Brighton

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:51 pm

Literally every team in the Prem play better football than us. And I'd say at least 3 or 4 in the Championship play better football than us.

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Re: Brighton

Post by Murger » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:51 pm

Pointless celebrating a goal nowadays. VAR has ruined it.

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Re: Brighton

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:51 pm

conyoviejo wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:49 pm
It's beyond a joke isn't it.. Must have been half a thou in front of him..
I said I’d reserve judgement when it came in but surely it was never intended to rule goals out like that. It’s a nonsense.

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Re: Brighton

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:51 pm

Murger wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:51 pm
Pointless celebrating a goal nowadays. VAR has ruined it.
We are agreeing on one thing.
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Re: Brighton

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:53 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:50 pm
Playing some good stuff
That was the point of my post really they look good,its enjoyable to watch,I hate Brighton and all they stand for though and it pains me to praise them :)

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Re: Brighton

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:53 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:28 pm
Because we can't do simple things like passing to each other, passing into space for players to run on to. We prefer to pass sideways for a while and then, when we run out of that option, we hoof the ball forward in the general direction of the strikers. We need two midfielders who can pass the ball forwards sometimes and more movement off the ball in general.
I agree with what you say, but we've shown in games earlier this season, that we can play passing football. We've just stopped doing it. Why, I haven't got a clue.

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Re: Brighton

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:54 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:53 pm
That was the point of my post really they look good,its enjoyable to watch,I hate Brighton and all they stand for though and it pains me to praise them :)
They and Newcastle were the two really negative teams in the league last season. That’s what cost Hughton his job.

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Re: Brighton

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:54 pm

I thought only offside if it was a goal scoring part of body.

Has it changed this year coz that looked to me to be his arm that was forward and nothing else?

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Re: Brighton

Post by Hibsclaret » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:56 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:21 pm
I'd say they were on a par with us last season,come this season they add a couple of players in Maupay & Mooy and now they look miles in front of us,they play attacking attractive football,why are we unable to do this ?
I’d say that last finished a league season above us in 12/13.

We have finished above them for 6 consecutive seasons and counting.....so they have not been on a par with us. More like the set of bogeys they are tbh

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Re: Brighton

Post by FCBurnley » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:57 pm

Var decision was correct based on current laws. Obviously the law needs changing. In my opinion offside decisions should be made based on the position of the players feet. Not his arm or his arse just his foot. That at least would clarify it a bit. They still have to resolve how to measure exactly when the ball is played by the previous player
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Re: Brighton

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:57 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:54 pm
I thought only offside if it was a goal scoring part of body.

Has it changed this year coz that looked to me to be his arm that was forward and nothing else?
Looked to be arm to me, that was the obvious view. They will have come up with something else.

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Re: Brighton

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:58 pm

I think we need a referendum on VAR..my vote would definitely be to scrap it,along with every other football fan I suspect.

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Re: Brighton

Post by Bosscat » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:59 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:58 pm
I want to scrap it along with every other football fan.
:shock: you want to ban football fans :shock:

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Re: Brighton

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:01 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:59 pm
:shock: you want to ban football fans :shock:
Aye probably I dont enjoy it anymore,never thought I'd say that ...its shite being unable to celebrate a goal

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Re: Brighton

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:02 pm

Twas a cracking goal as well his first Premier league goal and hes been robbed of that moment..

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Re: Brighton

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:06 pm

Good goal from Mooy. Looks a different player at Brighton than he ever did at Huddersfield.

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Re: Brighton

Post by joey13 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:07 pm

That Mooy is rubbish, not fit to lace Drinkvodkas boots
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Re: Brighton

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:07 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:01 pm
Aye probably I dont enjoy it anymore,never thought I'd say that ...its shite being unable to celebrate a goal
It is. We had to wait for what seemed an age at Bournemouth last week.

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Re: Brighton

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:08 pm

Did we even try for Mooy?

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Re: Brighton

Post by joey13 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:08 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:06 pm
Good goal from Mooy. Looks a different player at Brighton than he ever did at Huddersfield.
He looked good at Huddersfield , main reason they got promoted

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Re: Brighton

Post by Top Claret » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:08 pm

Brighton look a decent side against a poor Bournemouth side who look disinterested. Writing is on the wall for Eddie, is luck is finally running out and relegation looks a possibility if they don't pick up some form.

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Re: Brighton

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:08 pm

I think Bournemouth are even worse than they were against us

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Re: Brighton

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:10 pm

Bournemouth look poor is Eddie's bubble gonna burst this season...I hope so.

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Re: Brighton

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:11 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:08 pm
Did we even try for Mooy?
I’m not sure I want to know the answer to that coz either we didn’t or we put in a stupidly low offer

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Re: Brighton

Post by SGr » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:12 pm

Brighton I’d say are more comparable to us in 16/17. They’re really not that good, but they’re picking up results where they need to, and they’re benefiting from a bit of real class in the middle of the park in the form of Mooy ((Defour)).

Their recruitment programme has wasted a hell of a lot of money, mind.

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Re: Brighton

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:16 pm

SGr wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:12 pm
Brighton I’d say are more comparable to us in 16/17. They’re really not that good, but they’re picking up results where they need to, and they’re benefiting from a bit of real class in the middle of the park in the form of Mooy ((Defour)).

Their recruitment programme has wasted a hell of a lot of money, mind.
They have wasted a hell of a lot of money but they can afford the losses.

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Re: Brighton

Post by joey13 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:19 pm

Mooy is still available, at Brighton on loan , they have offered 10 million, a higher offer will get him

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Re: Brighton

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:22 pm

joey13 wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:08 pm
He looked good at Huddersfield , main reason they got promoted
I was thinking the same. He was a very good player for Huddersfield and stood out a mile.

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Re: Brighton

Post by SGr » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:26 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:16 pm
They have wasted a hell of a lot of money but they can afford the losses.
Oh for sure, their man wasted even more in just getting them to this division, but fair play - he’s committed. And wealthy.

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Re: Brighton

Post by mdd2 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:28 pm

I was surprised we didn't go in for Mooy.

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Re: Brighton

Post by beddie » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:38 pm

Just adding to the Mooy posts. He does look a better player this season but isn't that down to having much better players around him. I was keen for us to sign him last season but I'd like to think we would go for a similar style of player with more pace.

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Re: Brighton

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:40 pm

Perhaps he went to Brighton because Matt Ryan tapped him up. They are the only two Aussies in the Premier League.

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Our passing

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:43 pm

Vino Blanco posted this in the Brighton thread but I thought it was worth it’s own thread.

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Quote by Vino blanco » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:28 pm
Because we can't do simple things like passing to each other, passing into space for players to run on to. We prefer to pass sideways for a while and then, when we run out of that option, we hoof the ball forward in the general direction of the strikers. We need two midfielders who can pass the ball forwards sometimes and more movement off the ball in general.
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I’ve commented several times on our passing and it warrants re-iterating.
Our problem is the pace of our passes. Other sides ping it about we stroke it. By the time the pass arrives our receiving player is already closed down and under pressure. He then plays a hurried pass that goes astray and he gets it in the neck. We have shown at rare times that we can knock it about with pace and we always look better for it in them spells.
This isn’t something that can’t be sorted out but it starts at Barnfield.

As youngsters we were taught to be checking around all the time so you knew what you would do before the ball arrived. If you didn’t have the ball get in space to receive it. Come off your defender to receive the ball, if he comes with you you have created space behind. These guys are £1m a season players and know all this so why can’t they do it?
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Re: Brighton

Post by MACCA » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:44 pm

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:40 pm
Perhaps he went to Brighton because Matt Ryan tapped him up. They are the only two Aussies in the Premier League.
Youd think our location would have put us in the driving seat should we have wanted him, and I'd like to think we could have

A. Bettered Huddersfields wages
B. Equalled any fee Brighton paid/tempted Huddersfield with a permanent sale/swap

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Re: Brighton

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:45 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:28 pm
I was surprised we didn't go in for Mooy.
Whom has said we didn’t? I’m sure he would be offered more by BHA and that South Coast lifestyle.

BTW he was an 11 today.

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Re: Our passing

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:48 pm

A big problem is we don't have many players who like receiving the ball, especially in tight spaces.

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Re: Our passing

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:50 pm

Technical ability is what we lack. And there is certainly a valid argument that with the time SD has been here, he should really have brought in more technical players. There are Championship clubs who pass and control the ball better than us.

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