Changes needed

[cricketfieldclarets]

Its getting worse.

Have to go 3 up top now. Try something different. They know we darent attack them.

[KRBFC]

Another snoozer, apparently we played well though according to posts on here.

[Vino blanco]

We need to learn to pass the f.ckin ball to each instead of hoofing it forward at every opportunity. That's the first change!!

[ClaretAndJew]

1 shot on target in 3.5 hours of football

[cockneyclaret]

On the TV they were highlighting our shots on goal in the past 3 games.. I think was 2 or 3 lol

[cricketfieldclarets]

Harts come on warming up. Pope did look injured.

[cricketfieldclarets]

On the TV they were highlighting our shots on goal in the past 3 games.. I think was 2 or 3 lol

Cometh the hour...

[Tribesmen]

Get behind the team and stop bitchin

[cricketfieldclarets]

Get behind the team and stop bitchin

I have been for 45 minutes. Its half time.

[cockneyclaret]

Get behind the team and stop bitchin

Come on Burnley.. come on Burnley..
Let's get a shot on target and I can go home in my **** stained jeans as I'm so excited

[cricketfieldclarets]

No changes.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Back out. UTC.

[cricketfieldclarets]

433 here we go

[Dannyh1882]

I've watched and loved the Clarets for over 35 years but couldn't face going on tonight! The worst thing is I had 2 free season tickets that I couldn't even give away for free! I even tried my neighbours house who sits next to me on the JHU and has always said if I'm not going on give him a shout and he can use them for his friends but when I knocked on and offered him my tickets he just laughed and said he couldn't face going on either! This is the reality to all you happy clappers that think all is well at the club! I went to Everton on boxing day and enough is enough for me! This is embarrassing and it's been going on for to long. I can't be bothered listing all the failures of the Club as many have tried before and have been simply told to "Go and support someone else" like that's even an option! Think and say what you want about this post but when someone like me who has Claret and Blue blood running through there veins can't even face going on the Turf for a game against Man Utd because it's like seeing one of your children getting a good hiding in a boxing ring believe me all is not well at the Club apart from the boardroom where they are counting there profits.

[cockneyclaret]

I know what you mean Danny.. I turned tonight down to go fishing lol 5-6 years ago I would have paid you £100 for the ticket.
Now I can't be arsed..

[SkiptonClaret]

Pieters in for Taylor for the Villa game. Need that little bit more defensive solidity that Erik offers. Taylor showing some worrying signs of wanting to move forward with the ball in the second half. Not to be encouraged, straight lines for ever.

[Dixie Normous]

I've watched and loved the Clarets for over 35 years but couldn't face going on tonight! The worst thing is I had 2 free season tickets that I couldn't even give away for free! I even tried my neighbours house who sits next to me on the JHU and has always said if I'm not going on give him a shout and he can use them for his friends but when I knocked on and offered him my tickets he just laughed and said he couldn't face going on either! This is the reality to all you happy clappers that think all is well at the club! I went to Everton on boxing day and enough is enough for me! This is embarrassing and it's been going on for to long. I can't be bothered listing all the failures of the Club as many have tried before and have been simply told to "Go and support someone else" like that's even an option! Think and say what you want about this post but when someone like me who has Claret and Blue blood running through there veins can't even face going on the Turf for a game against Man Utd because it's like seeing one of your children getting a good hiding in a boxing ring believe me all is not well at the Club apart from the boardroom where they are counting there profits.

Nah I’m not buying this . Fake news . No way a 35 year supporting claret would think this way . It’s cut and paste from arsenal fan tv . If you really have sat through the last 35 years then like me you must see how good we are now

[Dixie Normous]

35 years ago we were relegated to the 4th division . It’s been a long hard slog back . Two thousand crowds back then . Not many stuck it out . If you could handle that then you can handle now .

[ClaretLoup]

I dislike the pejorative term 'happy clappers' in reference to supporters who stick with the team through thick and thin. If you don't want to support your team when they are going through a rough patch all well and good but no need to abuse those that aren't quitters.

[Granny WeatherWax]

Two years running now we've stood off the worst united side we've ever seen and let them have the ball, grow in confidence. Attack them and they're shite, look at what sheff Utd, watford, etc did

[Spiral]

Cotterball didn't have the novelty of seeing us try it against ManU, I suppose. It's horrible to watch at the moment, but all shyte teams scrapping it out in the PL go through it for a while. I hate it, but it is what it is. Just about everyone around us 'needs' one or two more players, and we're no different. We need a winger and a more attack-minded midfielder. This team has been grinding, practically unchanged, for a calendar year with the odd rare fun match and decent result happening along the way, but I'll save boiling my pi$$ for now because we're just a few passes away from being no longer utterly horrendous to watch, and that's (nearly) something. A few more wins will see us comfortable enough to stop caring about Burnley until next season, which is all I want right about now.

[ewanrob]

Wish people would stop using the past as an indicator, right now we are appalling. Our management team clearly dont know how to improve how we play, thank god we have 24 points and that there are at least 4 or 5 teams that are no better than us.

[warksclaret]

I know we have 24 points and lots of readers are revelling in this fact. However last year we went on an incredible run in January-March with a significant string of victories. In Jan we have Chelsea, Man U and Leicester. Cant see us getting any points from these.The way we are playing can see us falling below last years points level fairly soon

Lets hope our recruitment team have earned their corn in the last few weeks and we can pull off a few signings and sacrifice this loyalty we have to some very ordinary PL players

[Longsidelenny]

To many people on here winging if you want to watch flowing football every week go to Man City Liverpool or Barcelona we are burnley supporters remember that we are having a tough time but stick together as the saying goes once a claret always a claret utc

[jrgbfc]

Time to give Jay a run in the side ahead of Barnes. My 82 year old Grandma is more mobile and he seems to spend about 90% of the game on his backside.

[JohnMac]

Two years running now we've stood off the worst united side we've ever seen and let them have the ball, grow in confidence. Attack them and they're shite, look at what sheff Utd, watford, etc did

Those teams have pace, we don't. Going all out would probably have seen us picked off quite easily by Rashford, Martial and James and a heavier defeat, a bit like Newcastle did.

We kept ourself in the game, a silly mistake and a breakaway at the very end whilst pushed forward reflected the scoreline.

How many of our players would be selected in the Man Utd line up? None maybe?

We try to play to our strength and it often isn't good enough or we would be up with Liverpool.

Our League is the bottom 6 and if we are above those we are doing okay.

All in my honest opinion of course.

UTC

[tim_noone]

I've watched and loved the Clarets for over 35 years but couldn't face going on tonight! The worst thing is I had 2 free season tickets that I couldn't even give away for free! I even tried my neighbours house who sits next to me on the JHU and has always said if I'm not going on give him a shout and he can use them for his friends but when I knocked on and offered him my tickets he just laughed and said he couldn't face going on either! This is the reality to all you happy clappers that think all is well at the club! I went to Everton on boxing day and enough is enough for me! This is embarrassing and it's been going on for to long. I can't be bothered listing all the failures of the Club as many have tried before and have been simply told to "Go and support someone else" like that's even an option! Think and say what you want about this post but when someone like me who has Claret and Blue blood running through there veins can't even face going on the Turf for a game against Man Utd because it's like seeing one of your children getting a good hiding in a boxing ring believe me all is not well at the Club apart from the boardroom where they are counting there profits.

Not a chance theres claret and blue blood running through your veins...not a chance!

[jojomk1]

Lets hope our recruitment team have earned their corn in the last few weeks and we can pull off a few signings and sacrifice this loyalty we have to some very ordinary PL players

Problem is Dyche has the last word on any player we sign no matter how many the recruitment team put forward for consideration

We only play one way under SD so most likely any signings will have to be carbon copies of the current favourites otherwise "hoofball" doesn't work (and there's no sign of any Plan B)

[Corky]

Whilst I sympathize and empathize with those looking for change, this afternoon I drove passed Aldershots ground and I said to my wife...seems weird that I have been on there watching Burnley play and yesterday we were playing Many. She wasn't interested and didn't get it but I'm sure you guys will.

[ewanrob]

To many people on here winging if you want to watch flowing football every week go to Man City Liverpool or Barcelona we are burnley supporters remember that we are having a tough time but stick together as the saying goes once a claret always a claret utc

Not bothered about flowing football but would like to see us string some passes together, for christ sake we dont even move around in a triangle. The structure he has adapted, doesn't allow any of that. We have some terrific players, not getting the best out of them...and that's down to one person.

[Redbeard]

We did have one shot on target, didn't we? - Bardsley's great effort in the second half, that the keeper saved?

[claretspice]

Its getting worse.

Have to go 3 up top now. Try something different. They know we darent attack them.

To put those stats in context, we had 4 presentable opportunities first half - Taylor's chip to Wood, Cork just failing to get a toe on Tarkowski's knock down, Barnes shot wide from Westwood's early ball and McNeil getting it all wrong from Hendrick's cross just before half time.

We didnt capitalise, but (whilst the first half wasnt brilliant and there was definite room for improvement) it wasnt that bad and it wasn't all one way traffic. Ironically we probably created less clear chances in the second half when we had more play.

I've been quite critical of some recent performances, but theres an overreaction to this one. We probably played better than in the first half against Spurs last year - but we won that so it gets forgotten.

[warksclaret]

Its all about "fine margins". For the life of me cannot remember who said it

Joe Cole hit it on the head last night-you just cannot make mistakes against the top teams who have pace and great finishers. My memory instinctively takes me to the games v Liverpool (two goals), Chelsea two, Everton, Man U, Man City and I think Arsenal too

The mistakes against Everton and Man U have prevented us being in 10th position, above Arsenal and Everton and four consecutive clean sheets

There are a lot of teams getting their act together ie Watford, Brighton, Saints, Everton, Newcastle, West Ham could with the right manager. The fight to avoid relegation could be really tight for clubs like ourselves and Bournemouth on tight budgets and a fixed style of play. I feel Norwich are resigned to it and are not going to splash out

Makes three points v Villa so valuable

[NL Claret]

Problem is Dyche has the last word on any player we sign no matter how many the recruitment team put forward for consideration

We only play one way under SD so most likely any signings will have to be carbon copies of the current favourites otherwise "hoofball" doesn't work (and there's no sign of any Plan B)

Problem could be that other teams have top class international players who are paid handsomely whereas ours aren't.

Another one of these threads started to gain a lead in the quest to become UTC poster of the year / next Burnley manager.

[Woodleyclaret]

Fao Corky re Aldershot.
I do get it
Was on the last time for a night match with a Shots supporter
Whoevers team lost bought the curry
I won but our points were chalked off as Shots when bust and out of league

[jojomk1]

Problem could be that other teams have top class international players who are paid handsomely whereas ours aren't.

Another one of these threads started to gain a lead in the quest to become UTC poster of the year / next Burnley manager.

You mean like Sheff Utd

Part of a managers remit is to adapt to changing circumstances within a game if it is going against you

And to help identify and bring in new talent to improve the starting 11

I say again, this season Man utd have lost to Bournemouth, Watford, WHU, Palace, drawn against Everton twice and also Sheff utd and Southampton

We have won just once, in all Prem games against a top six side, and we will still lose to Arsenal at home even if they are out of the top six

[cricketfieldclarets]

Cork just failing to get a toe on Tarkowski's knock down

I know we are desperate at the minute but thats the ultimate in clutching at straws.

[NL Claret]

You mean like Sheff Utd

Part of a managers remit is to adapt to changing circumstances within a game if it is going against you

And to help identify and bring in new talent to improve the starting 11

I say again, this season Man utd have lost to Bournemouth, Watford, WHU, Palace, drawn against Everton twice and also Sheff utd and Southampton

We have won just once, in all Prem games against a top six side, and we will still lose to Arsenal at home even if they are out of the top six

Because United have lost to whoever you mention, does that mean we should be beating them too? You mention Arsenal too, wow we are on a par with Man U and Arsenal. I'm missing something.


Burnley could lose all games against the top 6 and stay in the PL, don't get your point.

[warksclaret]

Wasn't that long ago we were drawing at Anfield and Old Trafford (and not just 0-0) and winning and drawing at Chelsea and drawing at Spurs with some immense rear guard actions and the whole team showing real grit

When these fixtures come along now we are resigned to losing and its usually trying to keep the score down

Its a measure to me that we have not kept pace with the rest of the PL

[Quickenthetempo]

The changes needed are the coaching staff.

We have paid over 10 million for the facilities and they might as well practice in the car park outside.

Just what are we getting better at?

Playing long balls is fine, Liverpool do it more than most. But teach your forwards to run in the direction of the ball, practice what you're going to do so our players have an head start.
Play players that want the ball.

[Row Z]

Wasn't that long ago we were drawing at Anfield and Old Trafford (and not just 0-0) and winning and drawing at Chelsea and drawing at Spurs with some immense rear guard actions and the whole team showing real grit

When these fixtures come along now we are resigned to losing and its usually trying to keep the score down

Its a measure to me that we have not kept pace with the rest of the PL

What can we expect when the first team squad has not been improved since we signed Chris Wood in August 2017.
Our lack of transfers have seen us regress.
We cannot keep expecting an ageing squad to be improving year on year.

[Spijed]

Its a measure to me that we have not kept pace with the rest of the PL

Would we have lasted so long in the Prem if we hadn't kept pace with the rest of the PL?

It's a brutal league and teams like Norwich, and possibly Villa have been exposed because of how tough it is. If we weren't good enough we would have been relegated long before now, surely?

We are still on course to survive another season.

[cricketfieldclarets]

What can we expect when the first team squad has not been improved since we signed Chris Wood in August 2017.
Our lack of transfers have seen us regress.
We cannot keep expecting an ageing squad to be improving year on year.

Spot on. And for many the signs were there. Plenty of us have been banging the drum since January 2018. Improve the first team.

Plenty are complacent about this coming January. 'Dont do business in January' . Rubbish. Youve been brainwashed if you agree with that. We could get two players in now who wont need a 'Dyche pre season' and thereforw wont need huge overhaul in August. Just another two will do then...

[Row Z]

Spot on. And for many the signs were there. Plenty of us have been banging the drum since January 2018. Improve the first team.

Plenty are complacent about this coming January. 'Dont do business in January' . Rubbish. Youve been brainwashed if you agree with that. We could get two players in now who wont need a 'Dyche pre season' and thereforw wont need huge overhaul in August. Just another two will do then...

I can see the reasons why transfers are difficult in January with teams not wanting to lose players mid season to rivals, or just from their squad full stop. However looking at it the other way, players who have not played so far this season may be more open to move in January to get games immediately.

If we wait until the summer, the argument then is that players fancy their chances of playing more regularly at their own club by turning up fit for pre-season and playing well in friendlies.... then the cycle starts again and we still sign nobody.

I still think though that if Dyche signed two players in January would would be unlikely to see them unless we get some injuries and he is forced to play them. It's long been a big strength of his to stick to his XI, but also his downfall when things desperately need shaking up.

[Vegas Claret]

there are a lot of excellent things going on at the football club but anyone that thinks our recruitment is anything beyond bang average is delusional. Needs to be addressed this month but I know it wont be. I agree with others, we have regressed and that is because we have the most predictable starting 11 out of all of the 91 clubs. Baring injuries you know it's going to be
Pope
Bardsley Mee Tarks Taylor
? Cork Westwood McNeil
Barnes Wood

That's one place that is potentially up for grabs - that would be poor for a newly promoted club never mind one that has been in the division as long as we have.

And before someone says "we'll we've done ok" - I agree, we have - but I like to put out fires as they start

[claretandy]

Spot on. And for many the signs were there. Plenty of us have been banging the drum since January 2018. Improve the first team.

Plenty are complacent about this coming January. 'Dont do business in January' . Rubbish. Youve been brainwashed if you agree with that. We could get two players in now who wont need a 'Dyche pre season' and thereforw wont need huge overhaul in August. Just another two will do then...

Don't expect us to do anything in january, Bentley is already pumping out the company line of "January is not the time" on Twitter.

[Bfcboyo]

Whilst I sympathize and empathize with those looking for change, this afternoon I drove passed Aldershots ground and I said to my wife...seems weird that I have been on there watching Burnley play and yesterday we were playing Many. She wasn't interested and didn't get it but I'm sure you guys will.

Your wife is despondent with your marriage and doesn't listen to a word you say.

Oh I get it!

[NL Claret]

UTC specialists struggling to come to terms with losing to Everton and United, how different it could have been had the club listened to them, we wouldn't be in the mess we are currently in (24 points from 20 games). We had 12 points on Boxing Day 2018, not good enough for some having 24 in 2019. The club need to start reading UTC to work where they are going wrong. Brainwashed eh? UTC gold.