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Beat Villa or

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:00 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Lose to Villa and Win The FA Cup outright...

Which would you take if offered?

Re: Beat Villa or

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:09 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Beat Villa, Wigan won the FA Cup and look at them now. In fact Id take a defeat against Villa if it guaranteed we wouldn't win the FA Cup

Re: Beat Villa or

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:11 pm
by Clarets4me
FA Cup all day long !
We'll still be OK even if we lose to Villa ... 5 wins and a draw from 17 games ( after Villa ) will get us to 40 points and safety ..

Re: Beat Villa or

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:16 pm
by Winstonswhite
Someone should go on the Wigan forum (if they still have one) and ask if they’d prefer to still be in the Premier League with no FA Cup win.

That would settle this argument once and for all.

Re: Beat Villa or

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:20 pm
by tim_noone
Play flowing football in the FA Cup.......and possibly progress. Play tried and tested anti football against Villa and Win = 3points

Re: Beat Villa or

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:28 pm
by FactualFrank
I've seen several posters say they'd take relegation for an FA Cup win - nevermind losing to Villa.

Re: Beat Villa or

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:31 pm
by Blackrod
FA Cup. It would be in the history books forever and a major achievement. Villa is one match. Not going to happen though. I expect we will capitulate as usual in the cup so we need to beat Villa and the games after are very difficult bearing in mind our one dimensional slow predictable play.

Re: Beat Villa or

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:35 pm
by claptrappers_union
To put it another way -

Relegation or FA Cup? I’d take the FA Cup - no question.

Re: Beat Villa or

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:40 pm
by Devils_Advocate
No-one (apart from maybe Royboy) remembers that 6-2 win at Sheff Wed back in Jan 1914 do they now!!

Re: Beat Villa or

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:44 pm
by FactualFrank
claptrappers_union wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:35 pm
To put it another way -

Relegation or FA Cup? I’d take the FA Cup - no question.
Well I doubt ppl would opt for Relegation, so certainly FA Cup win out of that choice

Re: Beat Villa or

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:54 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Winstonswhite wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:16 pm
Someone should go on the Wigan forum (if they still have one) and ask if they’d prefer to still be in the Premier League with no FA Cup win.

That would settle this argument once and for all.
I am sure they all would.

You can take away premier league status from anyone - Ask Leeds, Sheff Wednesday, Nottingham Forest etc. (None of them won The FA Cup around their relegation). But you can never take that honour away from them.

Re: Beat Villa or

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:55 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
tim_noone wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:20 pm
Play flowing football in the FA Cup.......and possibly progress. Play tried and tested anti football against Villa and Win = 3points
I like it

Re: Beat Villa or

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 11:05 pm
by tim_noone
cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:55 pm
I like it
Yes it's not everybody's cup of tea...but like you i find anti football perversely entertaining. :D

Re: Beat Villa or

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 11:37 pm
by Rileybobs
Win a regular Premier League game or win the FA Cup? Is that a serious question?

Re: Beat Villa or

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 12:01 am
by dsr
I suppose it's a matter of which would be more enjoyable - one more Premier League win, or 6 wins in the FA Cup and two days out at Wembley and a major Trophy and some more European games. Hmm, tricky. :roll:

Re: Beat Villa or

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 12:15 am
by claptrappers_union
FactualFrank wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:44 pm
Well I doubt ppl would opt for Relegation, so certainly FA Cup win out of that choice
You’re right, I messed that up. Let’s try again

To avoid relegation or Win the FA Cup?
I’d rather win the FA Cup.

Avoid Relegation or Win the FA Cup - with guaranteed relegation to League One in two years?
I’d still rather win the FA Cup (do a Wigan)

Qualify for Europa League again or lose in an FA Cup Final?
I’d still have the FA Cup... I’d rather have the League Cup over finishing 5th

I’d draw the line at Champions League, though I’d expect that’ll do us more harm than relegation in the long run

I just want a cup, we’re good enough to really go for a cup run

Re: Beat Villa or

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 12:39 am
by cricketfieldclarets
Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 11:37 pm
Win a regular Premier League game or win the FA Cup? Is that a serious question?
Unfortunately it seems it is.

Its an easy one for me, as I suspect by your tone it is you!

Re: Beat Villa or

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:23 am
by superdimitri
You are guaranteed to play in the cup every year but you're never guaranteed premier league survival, for me it's easily to stay in the league. The longer we stay the sooner we will be more competitive in cups anyway.

I think cups are romanticised a little from the days when we relished playing a big premier league team. Now we are often the favorites and since we have already shown we can beat any good side on our day it's no fun any more.

Maybe a draw against Arsenal's or a local rival would be more interesting.

The road to Wembley means much more the further down the leagues you go.

Having said that, I don't agree with completely changing an entire team and I'm setting myself up for disappointment given I expect it will be another B team against Posh.

Re: Beat Villa or

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:59 am
by Woodleyclaret
Here's a thought beat Villa.Turn out the U23 team v Peterborough and win