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Jack Grealish

Post by KRBFC » Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:17 pm

Many on here have said previously he’s overrated and not very good, he’s absolutely running the show.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by PWBFC » Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:18 pm

Absolutely quality player. Fair play to him for sticking with Villa but surely will be off at the end of the season, should be in a top side.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by thatdberight » Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:19 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:17 pm
Many on here have said previously he’s overrated and not very good, he’s absolutely running the show.
He's not up against much though, is he?

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by KRBFC » Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:20 pm

thatdberight wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:19 pm
He's not up against much though, is he?
You can only beat what’s put in front of you
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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by whiffa » Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:21 pm

I've always thought he's a quality player, can be a bit of a prick at times and throw himself on the floor for no reason - but aside from his obvious ability, he shows week in week out his desire and effort. I'd love us to have a player in our side with just half his attitude today.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by thatdberight » Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:22 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:20 pm
You can only beat what’s put in front of you
... what stands a long way in front of you and makes no attempt to get tight in some cases

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by Woodleyclaret » Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:22 pm

No tackling by our midfield allowed him to run through
Bardsley allowed him room and actually turned his back on the shot
He has a ferocious shot and again we've failed to do our homework on the opposition

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by joey13 » Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:23 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:17 pm
Many on here have said previously he’s overrated and not very good, he’s absolutely running the show.
You say that like the posters on here know anything about football
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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by FCBurnley » Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:23 pm

Developed into a fantastic player. Makes our lot look like carthorses except maybe McNeil

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:23 pm

thatdberight wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:19 pm
He's not up against much though, is he?
The worrying thing is neither are we

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by tarkys_ears » Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:24 pm

You couldn't hook any with your comment in the match thread so you made your own post?

Is your mommy not giving you enough attention?
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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by KRBFC » Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:28 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:24 pm
You couldn't hook any with your comment in the match thread so you made your own post?

Is your mommy not giving you enough attention?
I like to admire opposition players sometimes, I did the exact same thing about Van Dijk when we played Southampton I said he was the best defender I’d seen live that day.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by Vino blanco » Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:29 pm

Non of our so called midfielders are fit to lace his boots.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by tarkys_ears » Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:49 pm

Laying on the floor after that "foul", can manage to bring his head up to make sure the ref gives a yellow to Tark though.

******* scumbag of the highest order.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by whiffa » Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:34 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:28 pm
I like to admire opposition players sometimes, I did the exact same thing about Van Dijk when we played Southampton I said he was the best defender I’d seen live that day.
'course you did. :lol:
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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by warksclaret » Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:38 pm

He was absolute class-what an asset to have

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by Burnley1989 » Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:43 pm

whiffa wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:34 pm
'course you did. :lol:
To be fair I walked off that game and everyone was saying the same thing

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by mikeS » Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:32 pm

We made him look quality.
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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by MDWat » Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:33 pm

He’s quality but they knew exactly what to do today - leave our right side free as no real threat, giving Grealish licence to tuck in for the left side to run the game.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by KRBFC » Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:35 pm

whiffa wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:34 pm
'course you did. :lol:
Hahahaha hilarious joke, quick tell me that one again

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:38 pm

I'd have him in the England squad every time.

Reminiscent of a young Chris Waddle.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by KRBFC » Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:51 pm

I was surprised with his work rate and willingness to get stuck in, not just the flashy neat attacking player, his languid style is deceiving, you would assume he’s lazy but he put in a real scrap today.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:54 pm

Shout outs also to Wesley who looks a real prospect at only 23 and Mings who showed why he's a clear starter for the national team at the back

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by claret wizard » Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:10 pm

Two massive tantrums thrown with foot stamping and arm waving, should have been sent off.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by bfcjg » Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:12 pm

We couldn't get near him , it was like watching a father playing football with a toddler.
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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:14 pm

He’s the catalyst and is allowed to play that way in his free role. The one player we have who is anywhere near like him gets stuck on the wing and doesn’t get involved as much.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:16 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:14 pm
He’s the catalyst and is allowed to play that way in his free role. The one player we have who is anywhere near like him gets stuck on the wing and doesn’t get involved as much.
The wrong wing at that.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:17 pm

Must admit a couple of seasons ago I wasn’t convinced. He’s certainly made the step up though and was head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch today. He’s given a very free role though which is a luxury that not many teams can afford and I do wonder if this has contributed to Villa’s position in the table. Expecting him to be snapped up at the end of the season and I imagine he’ll be a success in a better team.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by Buxtonclaret » Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:26 pm

Best footballer on the pitch, with a fair gap back to second.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by Stayingup » Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:36 pm

I thought he was given the freedom of Turf Moor today (like Willian before him). He was on his own up front sometimes from Villa clearances and got most of them begging the wuestion why dont we tightly mark the opposition playmaker
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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by beddie » Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:53 pm

He's exactly what we're missing, box to box, can run defences ragged, always available to receive the ball. England beckons.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by Helmshore Claret » Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:29 pm

Earlier this week a fellow UTC user quoted my post when I said that IMO Grealish was a very good player, his reply was that he felt that spent half the time on his backside, I felt that he just was skilled at ' drawing the foul'. Look, most fans know that he is quality, but I am concerned that Dyche and his staff perhaps thought that Grealish didn't have enough quality to hurt sides,
I felt sure that Hendrick would start, or JBG but to start Brady was iMO unbelievable. No fight, the intensity is 'shot' and the will to succeed seems to have gone.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:44 pm

Ran the game and there is no doubt of his quality.

Just find the falling over issues he has as his only flaw. The physios don’t even get up when he is rolling around.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by ksrclaret » Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:45 pm

Wonderfully gifted footballer

Wouldn't get in a Dyche team
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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:46 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:45 pm
Wonderfully gifted footballer

Wouldn't get in a Dyche team
:lol: Yeah, course he wouldn’t.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by Buxtonclaret » Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:47 pm

Burnleyareback2 wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:44 pm
Ran the game and there is no doubt of his quality.

Just find the falling over issues he has as his only flaw. The physios don’t even get up when he is rolling around.

He just needs a good head band.
That'd sort his falling over stuff. :)
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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by jedi_master » Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:49 pm

Impressed me.

Not just a talented and skilful playmaker, but also hard working and box to box. Will go far in the game.
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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by ksrclaret » Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:51 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:46 pm
:lol: Yeah, course he wouldn’t.
I agree, see my above post
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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:53 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:51 pm
I agree, see my above post
You honestly think that if Dyche had a player of Grealish’s ability he wouldn’t play? Answer honestly.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:53 pm

Could really do with one of the big sides snapping him up this month.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by SalisburyClaret » Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:02 pm

Got tackled, rolling around in agony, only stopping to look up and see if anyone was being booked. Good player but a cheat

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by ksrclaret » Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:03 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:53 pm
You honestly think that if Dyche had a player of Grealish’s ability he wouldn’t play? Answer honestly.
I suppose you could make a case for him playing out wide in Dyche's 442, to give my honest answer, but I wouldn't be confident as I would struggle to see how he fits into that rigid 442.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:06 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:03 pm
I suppose you could make a case for him playing out wide in Dyche's 442, to give my honest answer, but I wouldn't be confident as I would struggle to see how he fits into that rigid 442.
If we had a player of Grealish’s quality then Dyche would do what he needed to do to accommodate him. You know this as much as me. I think the frustration is that we don’t have anyone of his quality. The closest we do have is McNeill who Dyche always selects, so you’re making cheap digs.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by ksrclaret » Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:09 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:06 pm
If we had a player of Grealish’s quality then Dyche would do what he needed to do to accommodate him. You know this as much as me. I think the frustration is that we don’t have anyone of his quality. The closest we do have is McNeill who Dyche always selects, so you’re making cheap digs.
There's a strong argument to suggest McNeil would now be better being moved inside, as teams have found a way of stopping a lot of McNeil's threat down the left. But Dyche won't do it because it would involve changing his system, as McNeil isn't strong enough to hold his own in a central pair.

It's this sort of rigidity that casts doubt for me on whether players like Grealish could ever fit into his sides. His framework comes before any individual, for better or for worse.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by whiffa » Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:47 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:43 pm
To be fair I walked off that game and everyone was saying the same thing
Yea so did I, it's just the typical way KR uses things to make his points more believable! :lol:

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:48 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:06 pm
If we had a player of Grealish’s quality then Dyche would do what he needed to do to accommodate him. You know this as much as me. I think the frustration is that we don’t have anyone of his quality. The closest we do have is McNeill who Dyche always selects, so you’re making cheap digs.
Dyche would fit him in of course. But in the Hendrick, Arfield and now McNeil out of position on the right role.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by tim_noone » Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:31 am

claret wizard wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:10 pm
Two massive tantrums thrown with foot stamping and arm waving, should have been sent off.
Then handed his shirt to a 4 year old Burnley kid After the game While grown up? Burnley fans started stamping their feet and doing s bit of arm waving themselves along with customary abuse.well done Jack.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by CBT » Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:59 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:22 pm
No tackling by our midfield allowed him to run through
Bardsley allowed him room and actually turned his back on the shot
He has a ferocious shot and again we've failed to do our homework on the opposition

Every time our midfield tackled him we fouled him
No option but to stand off
He's class best on the pitch by a million miles today

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by ashtonlongsider » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:53 am

Best young player i've seen since Gazza.

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Re: Jack Grealish

Post by ClaretEngineer » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:53 am

For anyone whinging about Grealish and rolling about, remember we have Ashley Barnes.
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