Why are Liverpool performing so well

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Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:55 pm

Is it confidence?
Is it the manager?
Is it fitness?
Is it the team being stronger than individuals?
Pace?
Partnerships through the team?
Focus?
Intensity?

Really is remarkable how well they are playing. Man for man there are a good few who wouldn't start in one of two other sides - never mind historical premier league winners. They don't have a midfielder anywhere near the level of Gerrard. They don't have an out and out striker (but all three bag plenty) and their captain isn't renowned for any one trait and he plays alongside an ageing but committed, limited but hard working partner in Milner.

Yet they are the most dominant and fearsome side I think I have ever seen.

Its unbelievable to watch them. Just so quick out of the traps every game.

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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by Spijed » Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:56 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:55 pm
Is it confidence?
Is it the manager?
Is it fitness?
Is it the team being stronger than individuals?
Pace?
Partnerships through the team?
Focus?
Intensity?

Really is remarkable how well they are playing. Man for man there are a good few who wouldn't start in one of two other sides - never mind historical premier league winners. They don't have a midfielder anywhere near the level of Gerrard. They don't have an out and out striker (but all three bag plenty) and their captain isn't renowned for any one trait and he plays alongside an ageing but committed, limited but hard working partner in Milner.

Yet they are the most dominant and fearsome side I think I have ever seen.

Its unbelievable to watch them. Just so quick out of the traps every game.
Are they any better than Man City two seasons ago?

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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:00 pm

Spijed wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:56 pm
Are they any better than Man City two seasons ago?
Man for man, probably not. But they did what City couldn't (and Pep rarely does) in winning the European Cup - in style as well. And are absolutely dominant. And are on course to destroy what City did that season. Obviously the second half of the season could change. But to go a year unbeaten and only drop 2 points this season is incredible.

Its very similar to The Arsenal invincibles in that it wasn't even Arsenals best team. But they were relentless.

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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by bfcjg » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:01 pm

Great players great manager great game plan massive wage bill.

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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by Funkydrummer » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:01 pm

Spijed wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:56 pm
Are they any better than Man City two seasons ago?
I would say so. Maybe not as flamboyant, but more efficient and ruthless I would say.

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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by evensteadiereddie » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:06 pm

A perfectly balanced side with many attacking options. Im surprised Gomez hasn't featured more... ;)

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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:10 pm

A team with a lot of absolutely top players. Not sure where to start, they've got a top goalkeeper, outstanding defenders, a formidable midfield and then the front three.

This is a side beaten only once in the Premier League since the start of LAST season - that's 58 games. It's incredible but they are by now, for me, the best all round team by a country mile.

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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:11 pm

Owen has probably just nailed it. He said the centre halves are THAT good that the remaining 8 players outfield can attack at will because they know that those two are bigger, stronger, faster and better than anything that can be thrown at them.

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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by MrTopTier » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:18 pm

All of the above added to the fact they have improved and strengthened every window. More importantly it’s about the whole team, they have had some great individuals over the years, but this a team and a very good one at that.

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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by bobinho » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:29 pm

James Milner may be ageing, but limited? Limited to what exactly?
Easily, and by some considerable margin, the most versatile and consistent footballers of the last ten years. Still doing it consistently now.

A wonderful footballer, and a wonderful athlete.

As for Liverpool? Scarily brilliant. Sad thing is, their fans are going to be feckin ENDLESS, after winning the league.
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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:40 pm

bobinho wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:29 pm
James Milner may be ageing, but limited? Limited to what exactly?
Easily, and by some considerable margin, the most versatile and consistent footballers of the last ten years. Still doing it consistently now.

A wonderful footballer, and a wonderful athlete.

As for Liverpool? Scarily brilliant. Sad thing is, their fans are going to be feckin ENDLESS, after winning the league.
Milner is a very solid, dependable player. And I admire how much he has gotten from his career.

But does he score many? Not really. Does he set many up? Again not loads. Is he particularly skillful, or quick? No.

But he is a very hardworking player who gets the most. Limited wasn't a criticism. He has had a solid career. Reminds me of a much higher standard Alexander.

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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by Steve1956 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:43 pm

Everything just clicked there,getting rid of Suarez and Coutinho was the beginning, Klopp isn't the greatest manager but his enthusiasm is his biggest asset. .

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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by warksclaret » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:48 pm

Lots of good points and can't dispute any
For me the chemistry between Klopp and the team is exceptional. Always felt with Pep that he tries to portray it but it does not look so genuine
I reckon another club could offer the Liverpool players a better contract and wages but all they want to do is play for Liverpool and Klopp. They must have some great coaching too as they seem to be getting better individually. What I like is the way they can develop players-Robertson, Henderson, Mane to mention a few, and we all thought Milner was finished a few years ago but he is still an immense squad player

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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:55 pm

A gazillion pound spent on players helps

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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by warksclaret » Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:29 pm

They spend to get the best ie Van Dijk and Allison

But they have made some incredible signings-Coutinho for £8.5m, Robertson £10m, Milner free, Henderson £13m. Vydra and Gibson each cost more than any of these
They have just bought a Japanese Striker for £7.5m -no doubt he will be developed to become a top striker

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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:20 am

simplicity - football is a game of triangles, if you have players who can pass and move quickly you will win most games at any level.

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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by Vino blanco » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:56 pm

I think it's because they always pass the ball to a team mate.

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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by Dyched » Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:03 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:20 am
simplicity - football is a game of triangles, if you have players who can pass and move quickly you will win most games at any level.
Exactly. They do the simple things to an astonishing level.

Passes are so quick and precise. The ball zips along the surface with each pass. Switching play between the full backs is the best I’ve seen. TAA will become the greatest ever full back. He’ll do what Messi and Ronaldo have done to the great other forwards to the greatest full backs.

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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by LordBob » Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:10 pm

I think it's everything in the O/P and confidence is an enormous plus, players wanting the ball and not shying away for fear of making a mistake.

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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:35 pm

Dyched wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:03 pm
Exactly. They do the simple things to an astonishing level.

Passes are so quick and precise. The ball zips along the surface with each pass. Switching play between the full backs is the best I’ve seen. TAA will become the greatest ever full back. He’ll do what Messi and Ronaldo have done to the great other forwards to the greatest full backs.
and look how young the majority are too !

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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by evensteadiereddie » Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:34 pm

I was reading this morning that if Liverpool beat Spurs , they can afford to drop a point a game and they'll still win the League even if City and Media Darlings win all the rest of theirs. That's pretty impressive.

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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by Spijed » Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:52 pm

Dyched wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:03 pm
Exactly. They do the simple things to an astonishing level.

Passes are so quick and precise. The ball zips along the surface with each pass. Switching play between the full backs is the best I’ve seen. TAA will become the greatest ever full back. He’ll do what Messi and Ronaldo have done to the great other forwards to the greatest full backs.
Unless TAA learns to defend, he'll never be as good as Philip Lahm.

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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by Dyched » Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:58 pm

Spijed wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:52 pm
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Exactly. They do the simple things to an astonishing level.

Passes are so quick and precise. The ball zips along the surface with each pass. Switching play between the full backs is the best I’ve seen. TAA will become the greatest ever full back. He’ll do what Messi and Ronaldo have done to the great other forwards to the greatest full backs.
Unless TAA learns to defend, he'll never be as good as Philip Lahm.
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Maybe not but he’s only 20 odd PL assists behind the so called “greatest midfielder ever” Paul Scholes.

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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by BOYSIE31 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:45 pm

Simple good players and some money but a brilliant man manager

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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by SalisburyClaret » Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:51 pm

A startling amount of money and eventually finding a competent goalkeeper.

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Re: Why are Liverpool performing so well

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:27 pm

Dyched wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:58 pm
Unless TAA learns to defend, he'll never be as good as Philip Lahm.
Maybe not but he’s only 20 odd PL assists behind the so called “greatest midfielder ever” Paul Scholes.
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That cant be true. Scholes was easily the best English player ever. Honest!

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