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South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:49 am

13/1 after 3.5

Crawley gone

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:21 am

63/2

Sibley Gone

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by LordBob » Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:23 am

Hoping for another big ton from Joey boy!

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:05 pm

Enjoying the "daft reasons for missing cricket" on the BBC live feed. As a former village 2nd XI captain, I've heard a few good ones in my time. Our opening batter, a farmer was late once as his cows had escaped and he had to round them up. Had another lad who missed due to being arrested on Friday nights far too frequently.

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Buxtonclaret » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:11 pm

Root out for 35
Currently 109/3 off 42 overs

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by LordBob » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:17 pm

Something has upset Joe Root apart from getting out

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:20 pm

The Padiham flag is flying proud out there.

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by LordBob » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:37 pm

oh dear 4 down it's not looking too good

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:39 pm

Probably be out for less than 250 which none of us will be surprised with. Batting first on this pitch 400ish is par.

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:43 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:39 pm
Probably be out for less than 250 which none of us will be surprised with. Batting first on this pitch 400ish is par.
There's not a pitch in world cricket that is 400 par, for this England team.

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:44 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:05 pm
Enjoying the "daft reasons for missing cricket" on the BBC live feed. As a former village 2nd XI captain, I've heard a few good ones in my time. Our opening batter, a farmer was late once as his cows had escaped and he had to round them up. Had another lad who missed due to being arrested on Friday nights far too frequently.

Some corkers isn’t there and you can imagine anyone of them being true

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by jdrobbo » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:45 pm

What a terrible shot from Denly

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:45 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:20 pm
The Padiham flag is flying proud out there.
Seen 2 Lowerhouse flags as well
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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:46 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:45 pm
What a terrible shot from Denly
He needs to get in the nets and practice practice practice against spin. He has real problems reading it.

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by tiger76 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:53 pm

Same old story from England,3 guys get starts,Sibley,Root and Denly,and then find various ways of getting out,win the toss on this and you should be looking to bat for most of the first 2 days and amass 450-500,but this is clearly beyond this current England side.

I see Bairstow's finally been dropped,not before time it must be said,hopefully this will be the kick up the rear he needs.

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by tiger76 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:56 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:45 pm
What a terrible shot from Denly
It was and after doing the hard work in seeing off the new ball and getting set,he threw it all away again.

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Bertiebeehead » Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:40 pm

Stokes out with a silly shot, it’s like we don’t want to win.

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:53 pm

Butler gone now. Superb ball.

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:03 pm

Is cricket the only game where a batsman scores around his average and still gets slagged off?

Are they expected to play above themselves every game?

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:06 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:03 pm
Is cricket the only game where a batsman scores around his average and still gets slagged off?

Are they expected to play above themselves every game?
I think the point being made is their averages aren’t good enough for top class test cricket.

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:08 pm

Another bad leave but a beauty of a ball

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Bertiebeehead » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:09 pm

There’s a difference between losing your wicket to a fantastic piece of bowling or fielding and losing your wicket due to poor batting.

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:12 pm

Same old same old I’m afraid, no one can be surprised. English test cricket is in an awful state at the moment.

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:18 pm

Bess gone now
Bess is a bowler like Embrury who bowls batsmen in and Parkinson is a bowler who bowls them out
Can’t understand logic of picking Bess when he was not in original squad and Parkinson was
We are too negative in selection and when fielding
Always playing for a draw
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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by D8BFC » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:19 pm

DAVETHEVICAR wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:18 pm
Bess gone now
Bess is a bowler like Embrury who bowls batsmen in and Parkinson is a bowler who bowls them out
Can’t understand logic of picking Bess when he was not in original squad and Parkinson was
We are too negative in selection and when fielding
Always playing for a draw
Absolutely spot on - granted Parkinson might go for 4 or 5 an over, but he'll get 4 or 5 wickets too... its about getting 20 wickets, and we seem to have forgotten that.

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:23 pm

Best thing about today is listening to KP. Great insight into how he thinks and everything he has said is on point.
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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:23 pm

Broad gone
Still a good bowler but when batting now it is embarrassing so he has to go now

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by jrgbfc » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:25 pm

Feel a bit sorry for Root really. He'll get a lot of the stick but the fact is we are an extremely poor Test side.

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Buxtonclaret » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:27 pm

This is the worst English Test side I've seen since poor old Ather's tried to cobble together a competitive eleven.
At least his sides played against a better standard back then.
I wouldn't pay this lot anything and make 'em make their own way home. :(

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Vino blanco » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:41 pm

Time for Jimmy to get his first test hundred, which will allow Pope to carry on as well.

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by jrgbfc » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:43 pm

I like the look of Pope, looks like he may have what it takes to be a good Test player. Now we just need to find another 2 or 3 batsmen from somewhere!

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:46 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:23 pm
Best thing about today is listening to KP. Great insight into how he thinks and everything he has said is on point.
I'm the opposite.

I can't stand him. He still hates the remaining players from his playing days and it comes over too much. Half of it is he loves himself so much. The other half is he doesn't understand how players can't do what he did

Sky used to gave the best commentators around. Gower and Beefy gone with Bumble rested.
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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by MrMeeseeks » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:54 pm

Picking Bess over Parky because he can bat a bit is a shambles of a decision. Hopefully Parkinson doesn’t end up being dragged around the world carrying drinks with no chance of actually playing.

Good knock from Pope though. Played a proper test match innings whilst everything fell apart around him. Had to throw the bat at the end.

Edit: Actually a no-ball, crack on Pope lad!

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:15 pm

Just what are umpires doing today? There can be no excuse for not calling no-balls, it is part of their remit.
As was just shown, he had bowled a similar no-ball a couple of deliveries before but had not been called, even though he was way over the line.
I suppose the plus thing from that was that he wasn't aware, although he should have been, and then bowled another which cost him a success.

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:29 pm

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Local cricketer » Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:39 pm

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by tiger76 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:04 pm

Yet another disappointing day with the bat,6 of the top 7 got in,and once again nobody went big,i hope to be proved wrong but i fear SA will post 400+ when they bat,the one shining light is Ollie Pope showing his potential again after his runs in NZ.

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:11 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:29 pm
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Top flag is that!

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:27 am

Day 2
England all out 269
Broad strikes early 26-1

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by box_of_frogs » Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:33 am

Big day needed from the bowlers. Again!

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by MACCA » Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:40 am

38/2 Briad strikes again.

Can we finally tear into the SA batters and not let them settle

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:43 am

Broad strikes again
A bit slow to text

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:59 am

Get in Jimmy

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:59 am

40-3

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by nil_desperandum » Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:10 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:03 pm
Is cricket the only game where a batsman scores around his average and still gets slagged off?
Are they expected to play above themselves every game?
Statistically that point makes sense, but it's not how it works in the game of cricket.
In general the most difficult time to bat is when you first come in, so you're going to get quite a few low scores. Once you get past about 20 / 25 and you're "in" you therefore need to get beyond your average otherwise over time your average will drop.
You also need to take into account the conditions. If you're batting on a difficult green top or a wearing day 5 pitch against quality bowling, then getting to your average might be a real achievement.
However, on a good day one pitch once you've done all the good work and got up to your average if you don't then "go on" then it could be regarded as a failure, since you would need to equal your average in the 2nd innings too if your average isn't to drop over the game / series.
(Not sure that I explained that in the clearest or simplest way, but hopefully you get the point I'm making!!!!).

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:21 am

Great start, the old guard pulling us back into it again.

Probably one of the last series we will say that
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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:39 am

nil_desperandum wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:10 am
Statistically that point makes sense, but it's not how it works in the game of cricket.
In general the most difficult time to bat is when you first come in, so you're going to get quite a few low scores. Once you get past about 20 / 25 and you're "in" you therefore need to get beyond your average otherwise over time your average will drop.
You also need to take into account the conditions. If you're batting on a difficult green top or a wearing day 5 pitch against quality bowling, then getting to your average might be a real achievement.
However, on a good day one pitch once you've done all the good work and got up to your average if you don't then "go on" then it could be regarded as a failure, since you would need to equal your average in the 2nd innings too if your average isn't to drop over the game / series.
(Not sure that I explained that in the clearest or simplest way, but hopefully you get the point I'm making!!!!).
Yeah, I understand all that. I've been around the game of cricket all my life.

I was just making the point how fickle we are with the game. You can never score enough runs. Get a hundred and people demand daddy hundreds.

Hit a bad ball for 4 on 8 consecutive occasions but knick off the 9th and you shouldn't of played it.

Anyway great start with the bowling. Could of been 5 down with a bit of luck and normal slip placing.

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by nil_desperandum » Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:58 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:39 am
Yeah, I understand all that. I've been around the game of cricket all my life.

I was just making the point how fickle we are with the game. You can never score enough runs. Get a hundred and people demand daddy hundreds.
Well there's some truth in that, but on the other hand Jack Leach got massive praise over the summer simply for applying himself. He was heroic. If some of the upper order showed the same tenacity and concentration then there'd be fewer complaints, and their average would improve.
I'd always applaud a hard fought 20 achieved in adversity, but I don't like seeing upper order players giving it away when they're well set.

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:02 am

Get rid of Elgar before he's much further into his variations of Long Days and, it won't be so bad...



Sorry. Couldn't resist. :)

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Re: South Africa v England 2nd Test

Post by MACCA » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:37 am

Should be 80/4 but Broad balls no ball for the wicket....

Hope that isnt costly

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