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Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Claretforever » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:21 am

Nixon just announced it.
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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by burnleymik » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:23 am

Hardly surprising and which club would want to send players here now after that?

I know DD did his own damage along the way, but he was available many times when our own midfield was lacking and he still never got off the bench.
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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Claretforever » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:24 am

Yeah. He did himself no favours to start with, but when he’s sat there and we’ve been watching what we have you have to question the management. We are so poor managing loan players.

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:25 am

Lads choice. Well in the end it was. But to be fair it was his choice to get leathered (in both senses of the word) when we were trying to get his career back on track.

I was convinced at the ti.e it was a good move for all parties. But plenty of others said otherwise and how right they were.

What a waste of money. For an astute club who likes good eggs.
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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Colburn_Claret » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:26 am

So pleased when we got him, but for obvious reasons it hasnt worked.
He'll probably go on loan to someone else and shine.
Sods Law.

Still right to let him go.

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by ClaretEngineer » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:29 am

Good for him.

P*ssed on his chips at the start of his loan, but one has to assume he’s worked hard to get back to fitness since then to make himself available for selection.

He probably couldn’t wait to get back to Chelsea after watching the last few games.

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Flying Without Ings » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:30 am

Don't blame him. He didn't help himself at times (going out, scrapping), but it probably wouldn't have made a difference in any event. Dyche still wouldn't take any game time away from the undroppable Cork.

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Goobs » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:34 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:26 am
So pleased when we got him, but for obvious reasons it hasnt worked.
He'll probably go on loan to someone else and shine.
Sods Law.

Still right to let him go.
Like Chalobah, Bamford, GKN or Flannagan? Generally speaking the loan players we have had here that have done nothing have gone on to do little of note after leaving here. Those that have shone have generally stayed or gone on to bigger and better things thinking Vokes, Keane, Cork?
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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Helmshore Claret » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:35 am

ClaretEngineer wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:29 am
Good for him.

P*ssed on his chips at the start of his loan, but one has to assume he’s worked hard to get back to fitness since then to make himself available for selection.

He probably couldn’t wait to get back to Chelsea after watching the last few games.
Where he will be watching games and that's only if he gets in 'the 18'

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:40 am

Hardly surprising.
He’s been fit and hadn’t played a minute in nearly a month.

Strange to stick with him after his problems then give him an hour against the champions but nothing else.
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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:40 am

I’m really disappointed in this news. DD owed Dyche and Burnley a shift. Leaves us really short in the midfield for options, we need to invest or source another loan.

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by JohnDearyMe » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:42 am

If he wasn't good enough to displace Cork or Westwood then he's obviously not what we need. Plus he was lucky not to be sent straight back after the nightclub incident.

Good riddance

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Hibsclaret » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:44 am

Must be near the very top of the best paid splinters in the history of the world.

There’s something morally wrong when someone who has done so little has earned so much....

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by beddie » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:44 am

No doubt he'll be straight back out on loan and probably get some game time. I'm not sure if SD is in favour of loans apart from perhaps making up the numbers. I do have some sympathy for Drinkwater, I'm sure there's a talented player there but even some of the dross we played for some reason didn't allow him an opportunity to get a full game.

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:48 am

Personally I'm glad he's gone. The last thing a club like ours needs is the highest paid squad member setting such a poor example.
I doubt if Lampard will want him either.

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:51 am

Cant say I'm too bothered about that as long as we bring somebody else in, as like another poster said it leaves us light in an already light weight midfield.

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Zlatan » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:55 am

I was thrilled when we signed him on loan. However it has become apparent why he was allowed to leave on loan. The thing is with players allowed to leave on loan is that there are usually problems with the player - attitude; form; fitness etc - I think this is the reason why so many fail here and dont integrate. I genuinely thought that Dyche wanted him to see if he could turn his life around and we could have signed him permanently. Had that worked out it would have been a masterstroke from Dyche (like Barton), but it didn't.

I suspect that DD was adding to the dressing room unrest with his presence, whether it was his salary; attitude etc or what but I cant think it would have helped.

Glad he's going back.
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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:55 am

File under big mistake
His career is over and if Sean cant get him to focus on being a footballer as opposed to a chancer then nobody can

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by AlargeClaret » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:57 am

Should free up wages and a decent CM signing

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by jrgbfc » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:59 am

Quelle surprise.

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by wilks_bfc » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:01 am

"Lad's Choice"

Probably made that choice around 14:10 on Wednesday when he was told to sit back down after getting ready to come on

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by BurnleyFC » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:04 am

One of my favourite ever Clarets.

Good luck for the future, Danny!

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Claretforever » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:06 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:01 am
"Lad's Choice"

Probably made that choice around 14:10 on Wednesday when he was told to sit back down after getting ready to come on
I wash thinking the same thing. Amazingly poor decision not to bring him on when we scored. I imagine it’s more than that though, as he’s sat on the bench through some awful performances of late.
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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by beddie » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:07 am

We've been absolute garbage for the last few games so why on earth did he not get a full 90 mins in some of them.

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Jakubs Tash » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:09 am

We won't miss him because he didn't contribute anything. Time to bring somebody in who will contribute something.
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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Safron » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:10 am

Would like to know was he really dyches choice or garlics,seems a massive waste of money not to get any kind of return for the massive layout

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Flying Without Ings » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:12 am

beddie wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:07 am
We've been absolute garbage for the last few games so why on earth did he not get a full 90 mins in some of them.
Because Jack Cork is the first name on Dyche's team sheet as far as he is concerned. Must be great knowing no matter how consistently poor you play, you're never getting dropped, even for an ex-premier league winner.

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by claretandy » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:12 am

It shows how out of the loop Boden is, he has tweeted that he will ask SD about it at 1:15.

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Darthlaw » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:12 am

In isolation, I would suggest his unsuccessful spell at BFC is all down to Drinkwater's application and his obvious misdemeanor earlier in the season. Unfortunately, given the past history of loan players (Bamford, Chalobah) plus his current benchmates of Vydra and Gibson, there is at least a small doubt around our recruitment team or our managers ability to integrate signings effectively.

What I would say is that that's three players Chelski have loaned us now, who we have had sat on our bench. Unless they're getting paid handsomely for the pleasure, I can't imagine they'll be sending any of their up and coming players (who they wish to get game time) anytime soon. A massive shame when you're trying to unearth the next Trippier / Mee.

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Down_Rover » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:17 am

beddie wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:07 am
We've been absolute garbage for the last few games so why on earth did he not get a full 90 mins in some of them.
Based on the two cameos v Sunderland and Citeh he was miles away from the first XI. Waste of time and money but the blame lies fairly and squarely on the player not the club or Dyche
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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by warksclaret » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:17 am

My money is on him rejoining Pearson at Watford-like Dyche who knew him at Watford, Pearson will have a good relationship with him.

If this happens and works out, will say little about our management of players

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by jojomk1 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:17 am

Safron wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:10 am
Would like to know was he really dyches choice or garlics,seems a massive waste of money not to get any kind of return for the massive layout
Dyche has final say on ALL transfers

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by ClaretLoup » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:18 am

A few people reproaching our club for not playing Drinkwater whereas the focus should have been on why he was recruited in the first place.

This is a player who turned down England so he could have a night out with a bird, crashed his car into a wall and was banned for drunk driving, and was sidelined for a whole season by Sarri, not just from the Premier League but the FA Cup & League Cup.

There was a link on the excellent Magic Money Tree thread of an interview with Gary Neville on the changes in the game which includes a long section on how the modern professional footballer looks after himself, many employ chefs, drivers ( to avoid back injuries) and all kinds of therapists and how closely they are monitored by the clubs via Sports Science centres.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... -of-change

If you`re in any doubt as to how far away Drinkwater probably is from the modern standards spare yourself 20 minutes.
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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:20 am

I wonder how many minutes our loan signings have had between them since we made it to the Premier League.
Even Keane spent a lot of it on the bench before he came in permanently.

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Hipper » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:20 am

Goobs wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:34 am
Like Chalobah, Bamford, GKN or Flannagan? Generally speaking the loan players we have had here that have done nothing have gone on to do little of note after leaving here. Those that have shone have generally stayed or gone on to bigger and better things thinking Vokes, Keane, Cork?
Drinkwater is different. He is/was an established Premier League player of pretty good pedigree. We had every right to expect something from him and he failed to deliver even in the few opportunities he had. He let our club and himself down.
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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Bfcboyo » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:22 am

Can we buy Mooy now please .

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by bfcjg » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:22 am

More absolutely pathetic business from Burnley I'm afraid, this deal stinks TBH.

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by snapcrackleandpop » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:23 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:55 am
File under big mistake
His career is over and if Sean cant get him to focus on being a footballer as opposed to a chancer then nobody can
Ah yes the Messiah that is Sean Dyche. If he cant get Cork, Westwood, Brady (the list goes on) to focus on being footballers then no chance with DD.

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by jojomk1 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:25 am

Bfcboyo wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:22 am
Can we buy Mooy now please .
In your dreams maybe - on season long loan at Brighton (good business from them)

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by willsclarets » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:26 am

ClaretEngineer wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:29 am
Good for him.

P*ssed on his chips at the start of his loan, but one has to assume he’s worked hard to get back to fitness since then to make himself available for selection.

He probably couldn’t wait to get back to Chelsea after watching the last few games.
You've made a big assumption there. Look at George Boyd's interview about Dyches expectations and training. If he's not seen that desire to match the work ethic he requires, he won't play. We know he has the quality, so the more logical assumption is that he didn't work hard enough.
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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by kentonclaret » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:31 am

Those posters who say "we need to be prudent" should take a look at how much money has been wasted on bringing in DD on loan and never giving him an opportunity even though our midfield players are looking so poor.

Admittedly, DD did not help himself but we obviously decided to stick with him but you have to question Why? given that he was never given any real game time.

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:37 am

Posted similar on another thread but it’s weird that people are now questioning Dyche’s judgement on a player who has continually made headlines for the wrong reason. It was a gamble that didn’t pay off and I’m more than happy to side with a manager who has a lot of credit in the bank than a player who clearly hasn’t shown the attitude or application required to get his career back on track.

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by snapcrackleandpop » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:39 am

willsclarets wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:26 am
You've made a big assumption there. Look at George Boyd's interview about Dyches expectations and training. If he's not seen that desire to match the work ethic he requires, he won't play. We know he has the quality, so the more logical assumption is that he didn't work hard enough.
Yeah because our work ethic is the epitome of desire and effort at the moment.

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by jedi_master » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:41 am

I said we should have kicked him back down south after the 'incident' (which, for me, showed he didn't give a flying **** about the opportunity we had given him to resurrect his career) - I take absolutely no pleasure in being correct.

What a waste of time, money and effort Danny Drinkwater is. I place no blame on Dyche or our club for his lack of desire or application, he is clearly a bad egg. Let us be honest too, in the two appearances he made he looked absolutely miles away from anything approaching fitness.

Hopefully getting this guys massive wage overhead removed can allow us to get a replacement in quickly, one that will actually see coming to Burnley as an opportunity worth pursuing.
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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Herts Clarets » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:43 am

AlargeClaret wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:57 am
Should free up wages and a decent CM signing
You really think so? My guess is that it will be looked at as an opportunity to reduce running costs by 50k a week and have blind faith that we don't suffer any injuries or suspensions in midfield between January and May. I would add lack of form to that list, but as we have found out recently, certain players appear to be guaranteed a start providing they have 2 legs to stand on.

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by FactualFrank » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:46 am

Let us hope this means with the wages freed, we can invest that into a solid central midfielder this window.

I'd say it's mandatory.
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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:47 am

Regardless of my opinion on him going back it leaves us massively short. Imagine, if like Dyche says we aren’t going to sign anyone in January, and Westwood gets injured....

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Blackrod » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:48 am

Not surprised really. A massive let down and always doubted this signing. Someone who is prepared to sit on his arse for cash is not the type of player Burnley require at all. Add on top the off field antics it has been a terrible signing and a complete waste of money. He’s let himself down massively. He could still do a job for someone who likes to play football on the deck. Not sure Man City was the game to start him to get a real measure of what he could do and he clearly wasn’t fit enough in the cup game. We don’t see training but some players don’t seem to get much of a chance and players that are consistently poor (eg Brady) get plenty of chances.

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Goobs » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:49 am

Hipper wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:20 am
Drinkwater is different. He is/was an established Premier League player of pretty good pedigree. We had every right to expect something from him and he failed to deliver even in the few opportunities he had. He let our club and himself down.
Wasn't Flannagan an England international looking to get his career back on track after injury? But yes I get your point and I totally agree he has. My original point was that I don't see him going anywhere else and shining and generally speaking players leaving us having done little very rarely go on to do well elsewhere.

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Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Post by Steve1956 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:49 am

Should have gone back to Chelsea the day after his night club shenanigans, I know the club is laden with cash but that's no reason to continually waste it,what a complete fuuck up!
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