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Joe Hart

Post by Down_Rover » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:30 pm

Comical for their second goal, like piggy in the middle

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:34 pm

him and Lowton, can't just blame Hart

goal here
https://streamja.com/NApe

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:35 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:34 pm
him and Lowton, can't just blame Hart

goal here
https://streamja.com/NApe
That’s their first goal

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Down_Rover » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:37 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:34 pm
him and Lowton, can't just blame Hart

goal here
https://streamja.com/NApe
Second goal not first

Agree Lawton had a shocker, not just the mistake for the goal but generally in terms of turning up

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:39 pm

so it is lol

here's the second
https://streamja.com/G0Jv

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by burnleymik » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:40 pm

Are you really pinning that one on Hart? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Down_Rover » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:42 pm

burnleymik wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:40 pm
Are you really pinning that one on Hart? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yup

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Hopey1786 » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:43 pm

Anything to have a go at hart. He wasnt at fault for either
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:43 pm

burnleymik wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:40 pm
Are you really pinning that one on Hart? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Out too far too soon for first, but would have been OK but for the awful header from Lowton.
All over the place for the second.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Down_Rover » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:45 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:43 pm
Out too far too soon for first, but would have been OK but for the awful header from Lowton.
All over the place for the second.
Spot on
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by dougcollins » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:45 pm

I don't know what's wrong with Lowton, he was Mr Reliable. Abject again.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Flat Stanley » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:48 pm

Thought Lowton was good apart from his mistake. Much better footballer than Bardsley. We need a new right back though as neither are good enough for the PL.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:53 pm

Like Hart wss to blame for either :lol:
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Andreshotboots » Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:00 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:34 pm
him and Lowton, can't just blame Hart

goal here
https://streamja.com/NApe
And Lowtons wayward back header for their first goal. Didn't stop some **** having a go at Hart after the half time whistle when he went for his water. There really are some pathetic excuse for fans at our club
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:05 pm

Andreshotboots wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:00 pm
And Lowtons wayward back header for their first goal. Didn't stop some **** having a go at Hart after the half time whistle when he went for his water. There really are some pathetic excuse for fans at our club
There's no excuse for having a go at JH. But I've said this on several occasions: He will never be a fit for BFC.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:36 pm

Haha. If you’re trying to blame that goal on Hart then you have got an axe to grind and you’re doing a bad job of it. That was Lowton’s mistake, pure and simple.
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:37 pm

4v2 win but having a go at Hart for two goals that weren’t his fault... suppose we need something to moan about tonight

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by HollandsPies » Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:44 pm

How you can blame Hart is beyond me for the second. What on earth was Tarkowski doing feigning to be fouled just prior? Idiot!

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:52 pm

Hart was absolutely fine.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:05 pm

I think Hart gets a lot of unnecessary stick but that second goal does look a bit suspect.

No blame at all for the first, though.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:20 pm

Some of the fans in the cricketfield stand were a disgrace towards Joe Hart.

One women shouting get out of this club at the top of her voice.

Another saying he was .... for not calling his name at a cross.

Another screamed bloody murder at him for the first goal conceded.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:22 pm

Other than coming for crosses he is no worse than Pope.
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by BabylonClaret » Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:30 pm

How on earth you can find any amount of blame for Hart in that is ridiculous. I suppose Pope should have got to martial's one on one as well should he?

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by fanzone » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:03 pm

Lowton shocking for the first
Tarky terrible for the second not even attempting to win the header from the cross. Chose to try and buy a foul.

But it's easy to blame Hart
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Longside4evr » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:03 pm

Tarkowski was at fault for the second whether he thought he was going to get poleaxed but he ducked out the way allowing the ball to carry through
Was VAR checking for a foul to

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Steddyman » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:40 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:43 pm
Out too far too soon for first, but would have been OK but for the awful header from Lowton.
All over the place for the second.
At least he's developed then. One of his main problems last season was he would never come off his goaline. Here he is at the edge of the box, give him a chance. I'd be willing to see him in goal again.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:44 pm

Ive no axe to grind with Hart, but you call it as you see it, and he contributed to both goals.
Yes Lowts back header was awful, but I couldnt see any need for Hart to be that far off his line, he opened the whole bloody goal up. For a keeper who is glued to his line for every cross it was bizarre decision making.
Tarks effort for the second was also pathetic, but when that ball was bouncing around him, Harts arms were glued to his sides. Just grab the bloody ball, or at least attempt to. Nick would have swallowed that ball up and the dangers gone.

It isn't the end of the world, we won, but anyone who thinks Hart had a good game is kidding themselves.
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Belial » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:49 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:53 pm
Like Hart wss to blame for either :lol:
He'll always be a scapegoat for some. Don't understand why. Instead of supporting him, some find the first possible reason to have a go. Weird
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by AlargeClaret » Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:26 pm

Nothing whatsoever to do with Hart , he’s actually a slightly better keeper overall than Pope and is much better with his feet . That said Pope is superb at claiming high balls and for us that ( rightfully ) along with his “ youth” gives him the edge .

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Bertiebeehead » Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:32 pm

Was he having a go at some fans sat behind the goal during a break in play or just having a chat. Saw it on tv but couldn’t work out the context.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by WestMidsClaret » Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:43 pm

Heard he might be villa bound.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by TVC15 » Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:00 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:26 pm
Nothing whatsoever to do with Hart , he’s actually a slightly better keeper overall than Pope and is much better with his feet . That said Pope is superb at claiming high balls and for us that ( rightfully ) along with his “ youth” gives him the edge .
City got rid of Hart specifically because he was no good with his feet. A lot seems to be made of Pope not being able to play the ball out with his feet - it’s not really an issue for us with the way we play and Pope is absolutely fine at clearing his lines. I can’t think of one goal he has cost Burnley because of his feet whereas Hart made a couple of mistakes at least when he was at West Ham and ended up getting dropped.
Hart was a great keeper a few years ago - he’s not been for the last 3 or 4 years at least. Pope is better than him in all aspects of the game in my view.
All that said I would not be selling him to Villa as it could strengthen one of our direct relegation rivals - that would be pretty dumb.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by dougcollins » Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:35 pm

ironically, Pope uses his feet a lot to stop shots.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Wembley09 » Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:54 pm

It seems lots will always look for faults with Hart.
He got a lot of stick from certain sections regularly during that awful run up till Xmas last season (ending with the 5-1 defeat to Everton) with a poor 12 points to show from it.

Once Heaton came back, our form instantly turned around.. which made it look worse for Hart. To be fair our defence did look more reassured with Heaton back behind them, but a lot of the run up till that point wasn't all Hart's fault. I remember a few games he pulled off some great saves and kept scores down, but some fans were not having it... and trying to blame Hart for not being commanding enough etc.

Even if you don't like Hart, I don't think it's a good idea to berate our backup keeper... as when we ever need him, he will hardly be filled with confidence.. (directed to the fans at the ground constantly having a go at him)

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by IanMcL » Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:02 pm

Hart was not to blame for either goal.

Lowton and Tarkowski should be the ones pondering, if anyone.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by KevWebstersBomber » Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:04 pm

Can’t blame the keeper for either goal. Both would have been scored with Pope in the nets IMO.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by TheOriginalLongsider » Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:14 pm

Lowton was shocking today!

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Down_Rover » Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:36 pm

Wembley09 wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:54 pm
It seems lots will always look for faults with Hart.

There is no need to go looking for his faults, he puts then out in the open

The second goal was a joke. He was nowhere near the edge of his box as implied above. He was swatting at the ball as I do at wasps on the dinner table

No spacial awareness or command of his area

Only saying what I saw.

What was the point of playing him. BPF needs the experience and Hart won’t be here next year

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by SGr » Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:42 pm

Shouldn’t have started regardless. Bailey Peacock-Farrell is the future, Hart isn’t.
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:43 pm

SGr wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:42 pm
Shouldn’t have started regardless. Bailey Peacock-Farrell is the future, Hart isn’t.
He’s our number two goalkeeper. Of course he should have started.
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:46 pm

Was alright today.

Conceded a lot again though. As has been his forte for a number of years.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by bf2k » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:21 pm

How the f£&k anyone can say Hart was at fault for any goals today know nothing about football.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by AlargeClaret » Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:08 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:00 pm
City got rid of Hart specifically because he was no good with his feet. A lot seems to be made of Pope not being able to play the ball out with his feet - it’s not really an issue for us with the way we play and Pope is absolutely fine at clearing his lines. I can’t think of one goal he has cost Burnley because of his feet whereas Hart made a couple of mistakes at least when he was at West Ham and ended up getting dropped.
Hart was a great keeper a few years ago - he’s not been for the last 3 or 4 years at least. Pope is better than him in all aspects of the game in my view.
All that said I would not be selling him to Villa as it could strengthen one of our direct relegation rivals - that would be pretty dumb.
Pope’s ok with his feet and he’s worked his left foot really well,he strikes the ball well and doesn’t do anything silly at his feet . Compared to Bravo ( who himself is no Neur or
Navas) Bravo is of course technically better than JH with feet. Pep though simply wanted “ his man” to instigate the natural tippy tappy play from the back style rather than JH being a donkey

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Dark Cloud » Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:28 pm

I'm not Hart's biggest fan by a long way, but yesterday's goals were clearly down to other people's cock ups. Lowton with a header so weak my 88 year old mum could have done better and Tarks trying a "Barnes" right in front of our own goal, which is fine if the ref falls for it, but if he doesn't.....!

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:30 pm

SGr wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:42 pm
Shouldn’t have started regardless. Bailey Peacock-Farrell is the future, Hart isn’t.
That’s nonsense

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Down_Rover » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:35 pm

bf2k wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:21 pm
How the f£&k anyone can say Hart was at fault for any goals today know nothing about football.
Not necessary. Please respect other posters on here

Perhaps you meant to say that people that disagree with you are wrong

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Down_Rover » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:37 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:30 pm
That’s nonsense
Why? Surely not nonsense

If the plan is to let Hart go and BPF is the future then There is more value in giving BPF the experience

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:42 pm

Down_Rover wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:37 pm
Why? Surely not nonsense

If the plan is to let Hart go and BPF is the future then There is more value in giving BPF the experience
Hart is second choice keeper who is likely to be on the bench for the remainder of the season. Pope was ruled out with injury yesterday so very sensible to give Hart a game. Definitely more value in playing Hart.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Down_Rover » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:49 pm

That’s understandable but it is not nonsense to suggest BPF should play. He is the long term future

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:52 pm

Down_Rover wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:49 pm
That’s understandable but it is not nonsense to suggest BPF should play. He is the long term future
And Hart is the current future. I’d have been stunned had he not played yesterday. Was the obvious, sensible choice, even more so with Pope carrying an injury.

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