Toney yes or no

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Toney yes or no

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:50 am

23 yrs old pace to burn and a decent goal tally in Div 1, 17.I would definately buy him.Should be affordable even for our cash strapped Chairman

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by Grumps » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:58 am

No

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:01 am

Clever player, good on the ball and an instinctive confidence in front of goal. He could have embarrassed us if he’d got on the end of a couple of crosses, just as Jay and Chris could have got on the end of a couple of crosses. It could have been another 4 or 5 goals quite easily.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by bfcjg » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:03 am

If we sign him would he bring his own cushion ?

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:05 am

After seeing that we were “linked” with him I was looking forward to seeing what he was all about.

Was more impressed with Maddison & Jade-Jones tbh.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by timshorts » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:06 am

No.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:09 am

Due to our inaction in the last few transfer windows we need players who are first team ready. I'm all for signing younger players but last thing we need is another player who will never be given a chance, a la Wells/Vydra.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by SkiptonClaret » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:19 am

Young. Little chance I would have thought.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:21 am

Very very raw, it’s a maybe from me. Possibly a bit like Andre Grey, will always look a little uncomfortable with the ball at his feet but he will score goals

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:32 am

Occasionally we should take a gamble because if he realises his potential, then in 18 months his price tag will soar. Thinking of James Bowen. A club like ours can probably only make such a gamble perhaps once every couple of years. I didn’t watch him closely enough to form an opinion so I defer to those that might have put him under the microscope, but I liked what I saw of him when he had the ball and when he was in and around it, in the penalty area.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:36 am

11m is a lot for a league one player.
Took his goal well though.



Seen a bit of praise for Maddison on twitter saying he had the better of Hendrick but I can't say I noticed either in the game. Lennon was the stand out.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by Bosscat » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:57 am

He will be at West Ham before the close of the window.....

FACT

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by bfc-sparta » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:00 am

Yes if we play him, no if he just gets 2min at the end of a game every now and again like vydra/wells

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by pureclaret » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:05 am

Must say I thought Maddison looked good, but did look to run out of steam at about 80 mins , he had some clever flicks , but im sure that can be trained out of him , he went box to box and tackled inctercepted and could put balls in. he has scored 8 goals so far this season which for a midfield player seems good.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by Claretforever » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:12 am

Darnhill Claret wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:32 am
Occasionally we should take a gamble because if he realises his potential, then in 18 months his price tag will soar. Thinking of James Bowen. A club like ours can probably only make such a gamble perhaps once every couple of years. I didn’t watch him closely enough to form an opinion so I defer to those that might have put him under the microscope, but I liked what I saw of him when he had the ball and when he was in and around it, in the penalty area.
You’re right, because we didn’t go for Bowen sooner and he’s turned out to be super, smashing, great.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by bf2k » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:14 am

I wasn’t impressed at all with him. He had 2 glaring chances in the first half to get on the end of crosses but instead either fell over the ball or put wide. Those efforts should have at least been on target.

If defenders in league one are as bad as Peterborough‘s then no wonder he’s scored 17. His next step is at championship level not premier league.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by Funkydrummer » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:20 am

I learned after about 30 minutes in that we were looking at him, so I kept an eye on him.
His movement off the ball was wasn't too bad and his positional sense in the box was
good.

However, he did seem to have a bit of a lazy streak, but maybe this was as a result of
the lack of service he received.

I too was more impressed with Madison to be honest.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by creepingdeath » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:22 am

11 million they want from commentary yesterday not really a gamble

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:04 am

Posh may say they want £11m but I suspect would sell for less if they got an offer.

How do we manage a signing from the third tier though? He's unlikely to be good enough to play in the first team and he can't just be in the u-23's. Loan to a championship club so he's stepped up one level before playing him in the PL?

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by Alanstevensonsgloves » Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:33 am

In theory we signed heaton from the third tier. He turned out not too bad.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by ClaretAndJew » Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:34 am

Alanstevensonsgloves wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:33 am
In theory we signed heaton from the third tier. He turned out not too bad.
Also Pope and Gudmundson

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:36 am

But they had championship experience.

(I'm assuming Toney hasn't)

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by Aclaret » Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:39 am

Yes, and a midfielder too please...oh and a right back, then I'm happy. Perhaps a bit much to ask for.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by burnleymik » Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:42 am

No for me. Gave it up too often and too easily, plus missed an absolute sitter.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by CleggHall » Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:52 am

Toney had 2/3 years at Newcastle but didn't make the grade there.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by Aclaret » Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:59 am

CleggHall wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:52 am
Toney had 2/3 years at Newcastle but didn't make the grade there.
True but I'm guessing the game is littered with players taking a step back then moving forward again.
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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by Quicknick » Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:15 pm

Doug Collins came from the 3rd tier. And after we'd beaten Grimsby in the FA Cup. He'd had a very good game against us, too.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by Somethingfishy » Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:40 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:05 am
After seeing that we were “linked” with him I was looking forward to seeing what he was all about.

Was more impressed with Maddison & Jade-Jones tbh.
A yes from me..has the physical presence that we could utilise and is a lot quicker than our other forwards. Certainly a different option. A good punt at a player to develop i think.

As for Maddison...he was poor. Busy yes but his decision making and passing were dreadful yesterday. So much so the Peterborough fans were getting on his case. Could hear them quite clearly getting annoyed at him.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by Vino blanco » Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:46 pm

We need midfielders in the starting eleven, not young strikers to warm the bench.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by boyyanno » Sun Jan 05, 2020 3:46 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:32 am
Occasionally we should take a gamble because if he realises his potential, then in 18 months his price tag will soar. Thinking of James Bowen. A club like ours can probably only make such a gamble perhaps once every couple of years. I didn’t watch him closely enough to form an opinion so I defer to those that might have put him under the microscope, but I liked what I saw of him when he had the ball and when he was in and around it, in the penalty area.
Who on earth is James Bowen? Do you mean Jarrod Bowen?

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by burnleymik » Sun Jan 05, 2020 3:50 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 3:46 pm
Who on earth is James Bowen? Do you mean Jarrod Bowen?
..or Jim? I mean, just look what you could of won!

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Jan 05, 2020 3:58 pm

Ian Wright was playing park football on 'Ackney marshes when he spotted
Sometimes a gamble pay off
Remember when we baulked at paying £1m for non league Vardy.?

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by dushanbe » Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:05 pm

I was sat next to the posh seats in the BL yesterday. Must have been 10 or 11 scouts watching someone, presume it was him

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by Leyland Claret » Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:20 pm

No but I’d have another look at Maddison. Decent left foot and I thought he had a really impressive game

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:22 pm

Quicknick wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:15 pm
Doug Collins came from the 3rd tier. And after we'd beaten Grimsby in the FA Cup. He'd had a very good game against us, too.
It was the League Cup but the signing was based on his performance against us.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:22 pm

Leyland Claret wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:20 pm
No but I’d have another look at Maddison. Decent left foot and I thought he had a really impressive game
I thought he was their best player.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:24 pm

I thought Maddison clearly had technical ability way above the rest of his side, but he appeared incredibly greedy to me. Darren Ferguson in front of me was pulling his hair out at times with his decision making on the ball.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:31 pm

Regarding Toney, he looked like a good championship player to me. Don't think he'd be ready to face the likes of Tarkowski every week.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by tarkys_ears » Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:36 pm

I don't like lads who put their first names on the back of their shirt.

Therefore, it's a no from me!

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by Jakubs Tash » Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:36 pm

Toney; no. Championship player at best.

Maddison; no. There's a reason why he's played for Peterboro in League One for so long...all hustle and bustle with a real lack of quality.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by ewanrob » Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:59 pm

Always liked Adam Reach, left back unfortunately.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by Wembley09 » Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:07 pm

Can't say I was impressed with what I saw from Toney, with everything I have heard about him and the figures flying around. I was interested in keeping an eye on him, and he looks over rated (but it's always been easy for strikers to score a few in League One)
If anybody pays anywhere near £10 million for him, they are bonkers. Then again £12mil was once spent on Ross McCormack.

That Jade Jones lad looked lively and promising though, can see why Posh have told Spurs they want £10 million for him.
https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/11/21/r ... -jade-jon/

Toney though, no where near a £10 million player.. I'd say £3 million, and even that is a slight risk, but maybe I have not quite adapted to these modern day transfer fees that are thrown around :D

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by ClaretLoup » Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:14 pm

I saw the last half hour on the tele and a full game vs Accy Stanley at London Road and maybe Maddison is worth a punt.
He was busy and found space, didn't think he ran out of steam at all though we need to remember that these cup ties are not full on.

Also he is out of contract and plays in a position that we need back up for.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by Somethingfishy » Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:21 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:24 pm
I thought Maddison clearly had technical ability way above the rest of his side, but he appeared incredibly greedy to me. Darren Ferguson in front of me was pulling his hair out at times with his decision making on the ball.
This. I agree. Quite bemused by some on here saying he was their best player. Certainly confident and a player who knows he is important to his team but he was very greedy, tried way too many things that just didn't come off and was wasteful in posession. His manager was screaming at him and being sat near the away fans at that end of the BL i could quite clearly hear what his fans were saying about him too and they were not pleased with his performance. Maybe his position at the head of their diamond meant he saw a lot of the ball but i don't agree he was anything special. Not on yesterdays performance anyway.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:24 pm

Resounding no

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by Local cricketer » Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:28 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 3:46 pm
Who on earth is James Bowen? Do you mean Jarrod Bowen?
James Bowen is a jockey. We probably have more chance of signing him

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:18 am

He isn't better than Wood, Jay or Vydra and Peterboro are said to want 11 million

Therefore for me sign him, we might just finish some of the whoppers off if we pay another 11m for a forward who doesn't get much chance

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by Papabendi » Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:55 am

14 goals in 16 games for Brentford now.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:57 am

Papabendi wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:55 am
14 goals in 16 games for Brentford now.
They were waxing lyrical about him on the radio yesterday, claiming he's an elite striker at that level.

He's gonna be an expensive purchase now for whoever buys him.

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Re: Toney yes or no

Post by Papabendi » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:01 pm

yep, if there was any interest we have totally missed the boat now

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