Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by alboclaret » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:12 pm

I think hes having dig.
To say that the fans went "mad" and then say it again that they went "crazy".
That's not a joke, that's him being annoyed.

Then he back tracks because he knows he shouldn't alienate the fans.

The interviewer was I the best position then to say that I looks like the fans want to see their 11m£ sticker for a run of games like barnes gets when hes out of form....but he bottled it. Wuss

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:14 pm

I can't wait to read Vydra's autobiography, the revelations about his time at Burnley are going to be very interesting

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:29 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:21 pm
For whatever LancsLive is all they’ve done here is print what was said.
You could do that every week and it could come across out of context. This seems to me to be Dyche’s sense of humour, nothing more, nothing less.

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:33 pm

Maybe people should stop printing what he says?

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:34 pm

Obviously a little dig at the fans - but amusing how easily he’s triggered the snowflakes.

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:38 pm

It was dyche having a dig after fans sarcastically cheered when he came on - obviously does not like his transfer failings to be applauded in public

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:46 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:38 pm
It was dyche having a dig after fans sarcastically cheered when he came on - obviously does not like his transfer failings to be applauded in public
If you think that then you clearly don’t know or understand the manager.

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:53 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:34 pm
Obviously a little dig at the fans - but amusing how easily he’s triggered the snowflakes.
Can’t believe he’s triggered so many people on the day of the mental health awareness initiative. Sick.

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:59 pm

I don't think it's him having a go tbh - BUT the reaction wont have gone unnoticed especially at board level

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:02 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:46 pm
If you think that then you clearly don’t know or understand the manager.
Tony I know you love dyche to death but come on we all know and understand him and that was him at his smug best - it didn't put him in a good light and it certainly would not have helped vydra to hear such talk from the manager who paid a lot of money for him - I'm still waiting for a journalist to ask him these questions about his recruitment policy but no one dare it seems or they will be blacklisted
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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:09 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:34 pm
Obviously a little dig at the fans - but amusing how easily he’s triggered the snowflakes.
Perhaps Dyche is the one who was triggered by the reaction and everyone else’s comments have been taken out of context?

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:13 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:09 pm
Perhaps Dyche is the one who was triggered by the reaction and everyone else’s comments have been taken out of context?
True. Dyche does seem a little rattled. To be honest I just wanted to post the words triggered and snowflake.
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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:13 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:02 pm
Tony I know you love dyche to death but come on we all know and understand him and that was him at his smug best - it didn't put him in a good light and it certainly would not have helped vydra to hear such talk from the manager who paid a lot of money for him - I'm still waiting for a journalist to ask him these questions about his recruitment policy but no one dare it seems or they will be blacklisted
I don’t love him at all but I understand him having seen his press conferences over the years. Very easy to print his words and make it look wrong and that’s what I think this terrible publication have done here.

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by randomclaret2 » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:17 pm

Im still stunned to learn SD eats worms. Its true, it was in the media

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by TVC15 » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:22 pm

I don’t know why Vydra got a loud cheer when he came on - he’s done nothing to deserve it. And I certainly ain’t going to feel sorry for someone earning £2m a year for sitting on his arse - whether it’s his fault or not.

But what Dyche said was sarcastic and it was also a dig at the fans - it’s also a bit of an indirect dig at Vydra.

It’s no biggie though and I’m not sure why some are getting so upset - it’s an I’ll judged comment that he shouldn’t have said but it is typical of him to defend himself. I remember in a Q & A when someone asked him why he brought everyone back for corners. His first answer was polite as he explained why but when the guy challenged him again you could see it got his back up and the sarcasm started coming out.

Those who cheered Vydra coming on are probably the same people over reacting to his comments. As I said I ain’t got a clue why they think Vydra deserved that kind of reception. Jeff Hendrick has done a hundred times more than Vydra has ever done, probably gets paid less and has never had that reception coming off or on the pitch !

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:33 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:13 pm
True. Dyche does seem a little rattled. To be honest I just wanted to post the words triggered and snowflake.

Ha. Don’t we all.
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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by Goobs » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:36 pm

Sadly to me it seems that we are halfway down the road that so many before have travelled.

Eventually the vocal minority will force out probably the best manager this club has had in the last half century or so and we'll fall back to where we came from and spend many years bouncing around the championship / league one

Why wouldn't he be bemused that a player that has barely played and looked easily the worst of our 4 strikers when he has played would get such a rousing reception in a game we are winning?

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:36 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:22 pm
I don’t know why Vydra got a loud cheer when he came on - he’s done nothing to deserve it. And I certainly ain’t going to feel sorry for someone earning £2m a year for sitting on his arse - whether it’s his fault or not.

But what Dyche said was sarcastic and it was also a dig at the fans - it’s also a bit of an indirect dig at Vydra.

It’s no biggie though and I’m not sure why some are getting so upset - it’s an I’ll judged comment that he shouldn’t have said but it is typical of him to defend himself. I remember in a Q & A when someone asked him why he brought everyone back for corners. His first answer was polite as he explained why but when the guy challenged him again you could see it got his back up and the sarcasm started coming out.

Those who cheered Vydra coming on are probably the same people over reacting to his comments. As I said I ain’t got a clue why they think Vydra deserved that kind of reception. Jeff Hendrick has done a hundred times more than Vydra has ever done, probably gets paid less and has never had that reception coming off or on the pitch !

I think it was more of a case of the fans actually seeing him on a football pitch

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by TVC15 » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:41 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:36 pm
I think it was more of a case of the fans actually seeing him on a football pitch
I’ve seen him a few times thanks - he doesn’t look that good. I’d love to know why those who were cheering him think he’s any good based on when they have seen him play.
Maybe roll back to last year when he played 90 minutes against a poor Barnsley team. I can’t remember the fans giving him a standing ovation or cheering his name much that day - he was awful.

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:44 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:41 pm
I’ve seen him a few times thanks - he doesn’t look that good. I’d love to know why those who were cheering him think he’s any good based on when they have seen him play.
Maybe roll back to last year when he played 90 minutes against a poor Barnsley name. I can’t remember the fans giving him a standing ovation or cheering his name much that day - he was awful.
I also have the same view but I did not spend 12 million to bring him here - but then maybe actually give the lad a run of games.
He started one and scored then had a poor second game and never seen again.
Plenty of other players have had poor games.

The very same manager and club again pleading poverty

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by IanMcL » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:46 pm

I support Mr Ducye.
I thought Vydra did fine.

Clarets through to 4th round and meant it

Love it.

Up the Clarets

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:46 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:41 pm
I’ve seen him a few times thanks - he doesn’t look that good. I’d love to know why those who were cheering him think he’s any good based on when they have seen him play.
Maybe roll back to last year when he played 90 minutes against a poor Barnsley team. I can’t remember the fans giving him a standing ovation or cheering his name much that day - he was awful.
Yea he was awful against Barnsley....lack of game time mate,and not Dyche fit. :D

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by burnleymik » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:48 pm

I think it's more they (the fans) want to see what he can do. We have seen what he did for Derby and he clearly has talent and when your front men are out of form, struggling and niggled with injuries, and you have someone with talent on the bench you want to see them given a chance. If he has a few games and doesn't cut the mustard then fine, but the small cameos he has had so far isn't enough to judge him either way.
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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:50 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:13 pm
True. Dyche does seem a little rattled. To be honest I just wanted to post the words triggered and snowflake.
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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by Roosterbooster » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:23 pm

Goobs wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:36 pm
Eventually the vocal minority will force out probably the best manager this club has had in the last half century or so
Now I might not be a hardcore "In Dyche we Trust" megafan. But surely the fickly disgruntled fans among us arent that serious about Dyche going? And I would hope to high heaven that the board don't act on the whim of the fans. Otherwise they've been kidding us

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by AlargeClaret » Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:04 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:06 pm
Just when I think I've seen as much nonsense on here as is possible
I’m a huge SD fan CT , and this reading between the lines of his off the cuff comments is ridiculous . But one thing is for sure,when the pressure is on he does get a bit tetchy and as an ambitious manager I’d imagine he has a game plan when the partnership does comes to an end .

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by thatdberight » Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:20 am

Not good. As well as the complete manager-speak garbage he has more and more become the master of, this is a classic, "Don't dare question my judgement" hit-out at the fans. Fine. Make it adversarial. That usually ends well for managers.

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by ClaretMoffitt » Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:44 am

Obviously a dig at both player and the fans (more the fans) and anyone suggesting otherwise is kidding themselves.

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by jrgbfc » Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:53 am

The reaction when he came on was probably partly sarcasm and people feeling a bit of sympathy for Vydra after how shabbily Dyche has treated him.

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by Darthlaw » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:00 am

Knowing Dyche, this seems like one of his usual throwaway 'banter' comments. Unfortunately on this occasion, it's a bit close to the bone at a time where tensions are high, particularly over our transfer business.

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by CombatClaret » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:30 am

Every professional player runs the risk of not getting in a team, especially one you've just joined from a lower league. We have premier league level facilities and he's being paid a wage more than the UK average every single week.
Dyche watches him train with the team every day and is in the best position to deem if he should or shouldn't play.

The Dyche/Vydra vendetta narrative on here would make a Sun reporter proud.

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by BOYSIE31 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:39 am

CombatClaret wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:30 am
Every professional player runs the risk of not getting in a team, especially one you've just joined from a lower league. We have premier league level facilities and he's being paid a wage more than the UK average every single week.
Dyche watches him train with the team every day and is in the best position to deem if he should or shouldn't play.

The Dyche/Vydra vendetta narrative on here would make a Sun reporter proud.
Why is it a vendetta when the guy blew 12 million to sign him and now we are pleading poverty again.

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:43 am

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:39 am
Why is it a vendetta when the guy blew 12 million to sign him and now we are pleading poverty again.
You honestly claiming some don't have an agenda / vendetta towards Dyche ?

You honestly claiming you don't have an agenda / vendetta towards Dyche ?

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by thatdberight » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:54 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:43 am
You honestly claiming some don't have an agenda / vendetta towards Dyche ?

You honestly claiming you don't have an agenda / vendetta towards Dyche ?
Some of the comments are nonsense. The only way in which Vydra could have been treated 'shabbily' is if Dyche is not picking him even though he's good enough (I could never be persuaded of that) or Dyche promised him we would play in a way that suited him and has reneged on that (possible but again Vydra could be playing worse than Dyche believed he would).

That said, there is no evidence that Vydra is a worse player now than when we bought him. Because he hasn't played. And he'd now need 2 or 3 months of constant 1st team football to get back going again or have a chance of being reassessed.

It's a shame and we'll never know what happened but I'll be amazed if it doesn't just peter out with him. This happens, but when it happens a few times, players will get wary of us. And, if we continue to see Championship / nearly made it in the PL talent as our primary pool of recruitment, that's a problem.

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:03 am

I did and do wonder why he didn't go for Vydra and Jay to start with. Wood's injury has hardly dismissed this

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by BOYSIE31 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:05 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:43 am
You honestly claiming some don't have an agenda / vendetta towards Dyche ?

You honestly claiming you don't have an agenda / vendetta towards Dyche ?
I would not go that far - i just want honest answers from the manager or the board as to why we signed quite a few players who have cost both a fortune in fees and wages and contributed nothing on the pitch as remember we are such a well run club.
Now the same 2 people are pleading poverty again during another transfer window where are buisness will be nothing when clearly we are in deep ****.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:08 am

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:05 am
I would not go that for - i just want honest answers from the manager or the board as to why we signed quite a few players who have cost both a fortune in fees and wages and contributed nothing on the pitch as remember we are such a well run club.
Now the same 2 people are pleading poverty again during another transfer window where are buisness will be nothing when clearly we are in deep ****.
Yet when you get honesty you don't like it. Previously you said the board have said we have no money, when challenged to prove this you changed it, now you are saying they are pleading poverty so again the challenge is to prove where they have pleaded poverty as opposed to explaining that there are very few bargains out there these days.

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by Goobs » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:26 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:08 am
Yet when you get honesty you don't like it. Previously you said the board have said we have no money, when challenged to prove this you changed it, now you are saying they are pleading poverty so again the challenge is to prove where they have pleaded poverty as opposed to explaining that there are very few bargains out there these days.
How difficult is it to understand that we just need to sign Johnny foreigner for £300 and a bag of Doritos who will immediately improve our team and be sold for £100m after 18 months? ;)
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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by Dyched » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:33 am

Another stupid boring comment by Dyche trying to be the funny man. Like his comment about Mourinho being on his way to Harrods and Dyche to pound stretcher the other week. He’s so desperate to keep the media on side to hid the fact his so far below his depth it’s quite embarrassing.

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Post by BOYSIE31 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:42 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:08 am
Yet when you get honesty you don't like it. Previously you said the board have said we have no money, when challenged to prove this you changed it, now you are saying they are pleading poverty so again the challenge is to prove where they have pleaded poverty as opposed to explaining that there are very few bargains out there these days.
Every news report at every window

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:45 am

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:42 am
Every news report at every window
It may be in your best interest to stop reading them then if you come to this conclusion

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by BOYSIE31 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:52 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:08 am
Yet when you get honesty you don't like it. Previously you said the board have said we have no money, when challenged to prove this you changed it, now you are saying they are pleading poverty so again the challenge is to prove where they have pleaded poverty as opposed to explaining that there are very few bargains out there these days.
Just read this back twice and still makes no sense

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Post by TVC15 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:20 am

Dyched wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:33 am
Another stupid boring comment by Dyche trying to be the funny man. Like his comment about Mourinho being on his way to Harrods and Dyche to pound stretcher the other week. He’s so desperate to keep the media on side to hid the fact his so far below his depth it’s quite embarrassing.
I agree it was a pretty stupid comment but not a fraction stupid as yours !
How is the second longest serving manager in the league “so far out of his depth it’s quite embarrassing” ?
Who is embarrassed ?
You ?...about what ?

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by Wembley09 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:03 pm

Cheering like he scored 20 goals last season, ha good one Dyche.

The ironic cheers are because one of our big money signings has been such a rare site to see.
Like in a match when a ref as been giving non stop decisions to one team, when he finally gives one to the other team their fans cheer so loud and crazy.
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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by thatdberight » Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:15 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:08 am
Yet when you get honesty you don't like it. Previously you said the board have said we have no money, when challenged to prove this you changed it, now you are saying they are pleading poverty so again the challenge is to prove where they have pleaded poverty as opposed to explaining that there are very few bargains out there these days.
Honesty is;
"Yeah, I heard it. I know there's some section of fans feeling a bit disgruntled with some things. I get it but there are no easy solutions and I'll keep picking the best team I can see to try and take this club forward. It disappoints me a bit after all we've achieved together but we keep going."

I'm not saying I agree but that's honesty.

Slagging off the fans and the player by implication isn't honesty. Or if it is, not the helpful kind.

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:15 pm

How’s about selling him and getting someone in who’s face fits with the royal dyche, giving him ten minutes every six months is hurting our chances of staying up just to show who’s got the biggest ego.

If he’s unhappy with the club ship him out, can apply to both.

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by superdimitri » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:05 am

I think people are reading into the comments a bit too much. To me he was just mentioning that Vydra has done precious little to show he should be in the side so was surprised to hear the cheers.. Sometimes there doesn't have to be some kind of underlaying reason to a comment you know..

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Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

Post by ClaretAL » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:53 am

I think this gives more clarity in the way things were said. Problem with text is there is not emotion attached to it and so can be easily misconstrue, and it think this is the case after reading this

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/s ... a-cup-win/

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