The puzzle for fans is not buying a player ready for our 1st team

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The puzzle for fans is not buying a player ready for our 1st team

Post by s6t9a2f3f » Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:40 pm

We have paid enough last few windows for "risk" players can they / can they not break into our 1st team (e.g. Vid, Gibson, Wells and to a extent Jay Rod etc,etc) and they have cost millions not peanuts so the frustration is we dont seem to find/buy players that can compete right away for a team place. Fans dont expect a Maddison or a Sancho signing but just a player that can automatically challenge for a shirt, fans are frustrated that we cant seem to find a player/s in any league in the world to say compete for Lowton for the right back shirt or any midfielder to push Cork and Westwood. Lowton, Cork and Westwood are "good" solid players but are they really that special we cant find any players say between 1m and 8m that cant push them for a shirt ? dunno

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Re: The puzzle for fans is not buying a player ready for our 1st team

Post by claptrappers_union » Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:46 pm

The transfer fee isnt the issue - I think its the wages. We are going to have to start agreeing to wages between £60k - £90k a week - Can we afford that?
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Re: The puzzle for fans is not buying a player ready for our 1st team

Post by BOYSIE31 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:48 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:46 pm
The transfer fee isnt the issue - I think its the wages. We are going to have to start agreeing to wages between £60k - £90k a week - Can we afford that?
Not if you look abroad

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Re: The puzzle for fans is not buying a player ready for our 1st team

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:51 pm

Looking abroad comes with it's own risks, such as how long the player will take to acclimatise to the Premier League. Nothing seems to be straightforward when it comes to transfers with our restrictions.

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Re: The puzzle for fans is not buying a player ready for our 1st team

Post by BOYSIE31 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:53 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:51 pm
Looking abroad comes with it's own risks, such as how long the player will take to acclimatise to the Premier League. Nothing seems to be straightforward when it comes to transfers with our restrictions.
All other clubs dont seem to have many issues - all players will take time to adapt but you plan for the future as well as this season.

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Re: The puzzle for fans is not buying a player ready for our 1st team

Post by claptrappers_union » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:09 pm

Players from abroad demand a similar wage though...

Can Burnley Football Club afford to be in the Premier League?

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Re: The puzzle for fans is not buying a player ready for our 1st team

Post by Leisure » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:10 pm

Let's have another transfer thread! As if there's not enough already! :oops:
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Re: The puzzle for fans is not buying a player ready for our 1st team

Post by IanMcL » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:10 pm

We are ostensibly a club who buys in potential which is proven a a lower division. We then coach, add value and realise the asset.

The only reason to purchase 'oven ready' (yuk) is to fill a gap which needs filling immediately with no one in the wings.

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Re: The puzzle for fans is not buying a player ready for our 1st team

Post by SalisburyClaret » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:11 pm

Our main attraction is that we are a PL club- so our options are -

- A player from a lower division who we think could play in the PL
- A player from another country who wants to play in the PL
- A seasoned pro who is near the end of their career but might have a year or two left on the clock

SD is likely to go for the 3rd option every time - less risk, probable low-ish fee matched by a player’s desire to move

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Re: The puzzle for fans is not buying a player ready for our 1st team

Post by Wokingclaret » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:20 pm

We won't bet the ranch in the premier league, but we will and have done in the Championship

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Re: The puzzle for fans is not buying a player ready for our 1st team

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:33 pm

Leisure wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:10 pm
Let's have another transfer thread! As if there's not enough already! :oops:
Now Brexits been won, if we didn't have these threads the board would only have 'Accy Clarets to ...' threads.
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Re: The puzzle for fans is not buying a player ready for our 1st team

Post by BOYSIE31 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:37 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:09 pm
Players from abroad demand a similar wage though...

Can Burnley Football Club afford to be in the Premier League?
Not at all - this league pays the big bucks aprt from the massive clubs across europe

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Re: The puzzle for fans is not buying a player ready for our 1st team

Post by claptrappers_union » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:40 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:11 pm
Our main attraction is that we are a PL club- so our options are -

- A player from a lower division who we think could play in the PL
- A player from another country who wants to play in the PL
- A seasoned pro who is near the end of their career but might have a year or two left on the clock

SD is likely to go for the 3rd option every time - less risk, probable low-ish fee matched by a player’s desire to move
I think we are like a 'stepping stone' type of cub too. Take Steven Defour for example - other clubs probably didn't want to take a risk on him. Both Manchester United and Everton were both interested in him before his injuries. So he probably saw Burnley has a way of getting into the shop window for bigger Premier League teams to have a look at him. Unfortunately for him, it didn't work out that way.

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Re: The puzzle for fans is not buying a player ready for our 1st team

Post by Longside4evr » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:43 pm

We can't compete in this League for ready made players, it is what is and what's being told,it will eventually hurt us the only way a club like ours with moderate backing is development and its all relatively new from the ashes that Howe destructed during his tenure in my view.
In all that time since the late 70s when we had one of the best academies in the land we have only brought through two of the highest quality players in Jay and McNeil.
All though we have developed others, and got others for a snip and brought them on to be fine players.
Clubs outside the top end of the market will struggle as these clubs have the monopoly and financial support. We have to get our feet back on the ground as supporters are now getting tired of watching a resolute dig in grind out stuff with the same old strategy of keeping the dream alive and are starting to vote with their feet like we are seeing with alarming attendance drop off.
We are at the cross roads now where we have been found out we need to get off the Zebra crossing and take a long hard look at the full picture that is looming and its not going to be pretty one either if we dont get our act together.
After only a 18 months after being in Europe this at the moment is a massive decline and its taking its toll in every way due to poor recruitment that our club refuse to go the extra yard in so why should the supporters UTC

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Re: The puzzle for fans is not buying a player ready for our 1st team

Post by warksclaret » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:51 pm

If we cannot compete, and are so skint,why have such a large backroom team ie RECRUITMENT. I am sure there's some impressive salaries being drawn. The figure must be incredible if you divide the salary by the amount of players signed in the last three windows. A bit like the salary per game for Drinkwater since leaving Leicester. If you are a company and have nothing to sell do go out and recruit a sales force

After all Cotts and his dog had more success at unearthing some real gems that could walk into the then first team

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Re: The puzzle for fans is not buying a player ready for our 1st team

Post by Leisure » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:52 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:33 pm
Now Brexits been won, if we didn't have these threads the board would only have 'Accy Clarets to ...' threads.
At least those would be for proper fans! ;) ;) ;)

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Re: The puzzle for fans is not buying a player ready for our 1st team

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:10 pm

Leisure wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:52 pm
At least those would be for proper fans! ;) ;) ;)
Aye, Weatherspoon fans.
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Re: The puzzle for fans is not buying a player ready for our 1st team

Post by deanothedino » Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:17 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:51 pm
After all Cotts and his dog had more success at unearthing some real gems that could walk into the then first team
It did help that we didn't even have 11 players when he took over :lol:

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